OK Health Care Freedom Amendment, Sta...

OK Health Care Freedom Amendment, State Question 756

Created by CitizenTopix on Oct 11, 2010

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Jesse

United States

#41211 May 24, 2013
HA, just reported the truck hauling the oversized load in Washington that struck the bridge was hauling drilling equipment! Confirmed the load hit the upper girders damaging several causing the collapse.
MistyGirl

United States

#41212 May 24, 2013
WMCOL wrote:
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If it is on I-5 it is a federal road and gets a large share of maintenance cost from Federal Funds. As high as 90%.
Bridge condition terminology:
http://www.virginiadot.org/info/resources/bri...
The bridge is on I-5 so it's the main North/South route for transportation. This is a terrible occurrence but even worse due to the Memorial Weekend traffic will be crazy heavy. I'm very thankful no one was killed the bridge collapse was closest to the shallow part of the water which I think contributed to the lives spared, for the people who took an unexpected soaking. That had to be a hair raising experience!

Listen guys it's been fun posting with you please everyone have a safe Memorial Weekend!

Later,
Justaminute

Oklahoma City, OK

#41213 May 24, 2013
Plus, the Red Cross doesn't give out money, they give out vouchers. You collect them and then at the end of the month you submit them and in a couple of weeks later you get a check. So in reality your holding the voucher for a month and a half.
Justaminute

Oklahoma City, OK

#41214 May 24, 2013
Justaminute wrote:
Plus, the Red Cross doesn't give out money, they give out vouchers. You collect them and then at the end of the month you submit them and in a couple of weeks later you get a check. So in reality your holding the voucher for a month and a half.
I was too brief. Speaking as a business owner what you do with the Red Cross vouchers or any of the other org. vouchers.
So What

Mcloud, OK

#41215 May 24, 2013
Justaminute wrote:
Plus, the Red Cross doesn't give out money, they give out vouchers. You collect them and then at the end of the month you submit them and in a couple of weeks later you get a check. So in reality your holding the voucher for a month and a half.
There are better charities than Red Cross trust me. My money is going to First Baptist Church in Moore. The bid red church on the easthside of the highway. The one that God seems to favor (that's for all you divine interventionists)they are doing it all.
Justaminute

Oklahoma City, OK

#41216 May 24, 2013
As for the bridges or really any bridges throughout the country:

Shoring up all these bridges would be a major investment of mostly blue collar manpower. And as it turns out, the country has a desperate need for jobs, especially ones that don't require a college degree.

It would take a perverse, malevolent government not to take the opportunity to fit those two puzzle pieces together. Wouldn't it?
Justaminute

Oklahoma City, OK

#41217 May 24, 2013
So What wrote:
<quoted text> There are better charities than Red Cross trust me. My money is going to First Baptist Church in Moore. The bid red church on the easthside of the highway. The one that God seems to favor (that's for all you divine interventionists)they are doing it all.
Yes the churches in Moore are really doing a great job. But this is going to have to be a very long term effort.

Cause not only did they loose their home, many lost their car or cars as well.
Justaminute

Oklahoma City, OK

#41218 May 24, 2013
Added to a lost home, they lost their cars, clothing and personal items. Insurance will never meet the replacement value. If they have it.
So What

Mcloud, OK

#41219 May 24, 2013
Justaminute wrote:
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Yes the churches in Moore are really doing a great job. But this is going to have to be a very long term effort.
Cause not only did they loose their home, many lost their car or cars as well.
I believe the churches in Moore are not on wheels also you should look at the Red Crosses administrative cost before pushing them to hard.
Justaminute

Oklahoma City, OK

#41220 May 24, 2013
So What wrote:
<quoted text>I believe the churches in Moore are not on wheels also you should look at the Red Crosses administrative cost before pushing them to hard.
I'm just saying that people give in the first heat of a disaster but lose interest later. We're not talking about even a month. We're talking really long term. So that SNAP funding, and all other funding for people that may be on the edge of poverty have fully gone over the edge.
Maddy

United States

#41221 May 24, 2013
Russia hit by a 8.2 earthquake.
Justaminute

Oklahoma City, OK

#41222 May 24, 2013
My business is a known Red Cross acceptance site. You have no idea. I see Red Cross funding all the time. When you get a couple that have lost their home to a fire, they use vouchers way longer than a month. The hotel next door is 1/2 short term vacancy and 1/2 long term (indeterminate stays.) If something happens in SW OKC, the Red Cross puts them up there.

So long term Red Cross acceptance by a business requires the business to be able to accept the shortage in cash flow since your just being paid once a month. Not every business can do that or WILL do that. In fact usually the Red Cross is so grateful that you will accept their terms. That's why they will use you over and over.
Justaminute

Oklahoma City, OK

#41223 May 24, 2013
Because it's not only Red Cross that you only get paid once a month. My business has gone to over 1/2 debit and credit card charges. You also only get the money once a month. And you have to pay them. So it' kinda of touchy when your payroll and food cost supplies are once a week. So really a disaster likes this puts a strain on not just the people that lost homes, it puts strains on people that service the area.
So What

Mcloud, OK

#41224 May 24, 2013
Justaminute wrote:
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I'm just saying that people give in the first heat of a disaster but lose interest later. We're not talking about even a month. We're talking really long term. So that SNAP funding, and all other funding for people that may be on the edge of poverty have fully gone over the edge.
I'm not sure what SNAP has to do with it, but I'll be more than happy what The American Red Cross did for my family in our time of need.

We were hit by the May 10th tornado 3 years ago, the one that flattened the Loves on I-40 and Choctaw Rd. We live on only two acres of land, and we bulldozed at least 25 county dump trucks full of damage to the curb, and that didn't include our house.
We were without electric power for about 10 days. The reason I brought up electric is because that is the day RC showed up.
They pulled up in my driveway in there $80,000 truck and gave me a pair of gloves and two trash bags (they where the good ones I'll give them that). That was the LAST I saw of them. But I'm not complaining, because I'm not big on excepting charity, but if I had to do it over again, I would have told them to keep it, because if that is all you are giving out, someone else needs it more than I do.

Know my point about them as a charity is; I'll be willing to bet that someone donated well over $100 so that they give $8 worth of stuff, and it would not surprise me if that stuff was donated to them.
So What

Mcloud, OK

#41225 May 24, 2013
I'm sorry ACCEPTING not EXCEPTING.
So What

Mcloud, OK

#41226 May 24, 2013
Oh and Thank you Oklahoma County for the help!

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#41227 May 24, 2013
Justaminute wrote:
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If you knew these areas there's not a lot of pools there in the first place. The homes that were more upscale that were wiped out were around SW 145th starting at May Ave. They have extra large lots with larger homes built on them. The guys that own the Mama Lou's restaurants had homes there that were wiped out. But the ones directly impacted in Moore were older homes. The people living there didn't have much money to start with. The rebuilt homes that were taken out a second time were in the $120's price range but originally cost in the $50 thousand or $60 thousand price range.
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My idea was a combining of pool and shelter for those who have pools and those like Tamara alluded to who will put in a pool and then later wish they had put in a shelter or cellar instead.

Don't know how many pools Tamara is talking about but my idea requires an existing pool or obviously someone wanting a pool who is able to install one.

I'm open to improvements on ideas or new ones to solve the shelter problem.
Maddy

United States

#41228 May 24, 2013
So What wrote:
<quoted text>I'm not sure what SNAP has to do with it, but I'll be more than happy what The American Red Cross did for my family in our time of need.
We were hit by the May 10th tornado 3 years ago, the one that flattened the Loves on I-40 and Choctaw Rd. We live on only two acres of land, and we bulldozed at least 25 county dump trucks full of damage to the curb, and that didn't include our house.
We were without electric power for about 10 days. The reason I brought up electric is because that is the day RC showed up.
They pulled up in my driveway in there $80,000 truck and gave me a pair of gloves and two trash bags (they where the good ones I'll give them that). That was the LAST I saw of them. But I'm not complaining, because I'm not big on excepting charity, but if I had to do it over again, I would have told them to keep it, because if that is all you are giving out, someone else needs it more than I do.
Know my point about them as a charity is; I'll be willing to bet that someone donated well over $100 so that they give $8 worth of stuff, and it would not surprise me if that stuff was donated to them.
Maybe that's why MistyGirl said she and her husband picked up supplies donations with their flatbed trailer and took it to a truck that was going to OKC on the very same day the tornado hit. When she posted that I thought to myself she must like the extra work or something because it would be soooo much easier just to text or go on RC's website and donate.

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#41229 May 24, 2013
Maddy wrote:
Russia hit by a 8.2 earthquake.
8.3 far East Russia in Sea of Okhotsk about 4400 miles East of Moscow. No damage reported.
Maddy

United States

#41230 May 24, 2013
WMCOL wrote:
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My idea was a combining of pool and shelter for those who have pools and those like Tamara alluded to who will put in a pool and then later wish they had put in a shelter or cellar instead.
Don't know how many pools Tamara is talking about but my idea requires an existing pool or obviously someone wanting a pool who is able to install one.
I'm open to improvements on ideas or new ones to solve the shelter problem.
I don't understand, how would you combine a storm shelter and a pool? Wouldn't think that would be a very capable pairing, lol?

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