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OK Health Care Freedom Amendment, State Question 756

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May 21, 2013
 
Packing Heat wrote:
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Of course you being another liberal hack, you can't be expected to tell all the facts can you HACK? Never mind, I will you miserable hack!
The Hurricane Sandy relief bill was filled with pork spending according to analysts. The relief package was ostensibly intended for Hurricane Sandy victims, but in reality the Democratic Senate was exploiting loopholes in the budget process to pile on new spending.
As reported, the spending-filled Sandy relief bill was shot down by the House because of the high level of pork spending added to the bill. The craziest part is that at that time the bill stood at $30 billion and then Democrats stuffed even more pork spending in, doubling the cost to taxpayers at $60 billion of which most of that spending wouldn’t even have occured until after 2013. New Jersey governor Chris Christie blasted Congress for delaying the Sandy relief bill. House Speaker John Boehner responded by promising to vote that Friday on a $9 billion infusion of cash to the National Flood Insurance Program and a vote January 15 on the remainder of the proposal.
The bill was shot down because the Democratic Senate version of the bill was comprised of 85 percent pork spending that had nothing to do with Hurricane Sandy relief which is so typical of those assclowns. Why was this in the emergency bill for Sandy? It doesn’t make any sense. Only $1 out of every $6 ($9 billion of the $60 billion) was to be spent in 2013. That means 85 percent doesn’t come until 2014 and beyond. That’s not immediate relief.
What that bill was fundamentally was a pork bill. It’s disgraceful to load a bill like it, that has good motives, that has good intentions that is going to help people, with billions of dollars of pork spending hidden in it. It’s disgraceful yet it’s so typical of Democrats under the Obama Adminstration.
Another example of how Democrats can sneak in pork spending and other types of fraud is:
Fraud related to Hurricane Katrina spending is estimated to top $2 billion. In addition, debit cards provided to hurricane victims were used to pay for Caribbean vacations, NFL tickets, Dom Perignon champagne,‘Girls Gone Wild’ videos, and at least one sex change operation.
We had something called a Line Item Veto Act that would have stopped pork barrel bills that you are referring too. But it was found to be illegal sometime in the 90's.
MistyGirl

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WMCOL wrote:
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Oklahoma has no funds in "federal coffers", no "money in that pot". It gets back more than it pays. but FEMA helps anyway. It is the other states that pay for it.
That's ridiculous and you know it. It's like saying Oklahomans can only drive on federally funded roads on the weekend because the real taxpayers paying for it are using federal highways Monday thru Friday!

Please everyone who can, donate to the Red Cross or Salvation Army. You'll be happy to hear our 53' trailer was loaded to the hilt with basic necessities by midnight last night and was unloaded ready for dispersal at O' dark thirty this morning.
It's returned and being loaded again. Wal-Mart has been wonderful and I'm sure they will continue to assist. Special thanks to our friends in Springdale, Rogers and Joplin area for helping, you guys are the greatest!
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MistyGirl wrote:
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That's ridiculous and you know it. It's like saying Oklahomans can only drive on federally funded roads on the weekend because the real taxpayers paying for it are using federal highways Monday thru Friday!
Please everyone who can, donate to the Red Cross or Salvation Army. You'll be happy to hear our 53' trailer was loaded to the hilt with basic necessities by midnight last night and was unloaded ready for dispersal at O' dark thirty this morning.
It's returned and being loaded again. Wal-Mart has been wonderful and I'm sure they will continue to assist. Special thanks to our friends in Springdale, Rogers and Joplin area for helping, you guys are the greatest!
What he is saying is, we receive more federal funding then we pay in federal taxes. That is true.
MistyGirl

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So What wrote:
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What he is saying is, we receive more federal funding then we pay in federal taxes. That is true.
I stand behind my post as I always do. I understand what WMCOL is saying I have posted with him now for some time so I know 'why' he has that opinion.

I'm simply pointing out the fallacy of his premise since our(USA) federal tax dollars are all sent to Washington for dispersal where the need arises, whether the need be in Martha's Vineyard or Moore, Oklahoma.
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Oklahoma Sen. Jim Inhofe, who wanted to slash Hurricane Sandy recovery funding, said on Tuesday that aid for his state would look different in the wake of a devastating tornado.
“Let’s look at that, that was totally different,” Inhofe (R-Okla.) said on MSNBC on Tuesday when asked about his Sandy position.“They were getting things — for instance that was supposed to be in New Jersey, they had things in the Virgin Islands, they were fixing roads there, they were putting roofs on houses in Washington, D.C., everyone was getting in and exploiting the tragedy taking place.”

His comments came a day after a massive and deadly tornado struck his state. Inhofe pledged that relief for Oklahoma wouldn’t look like the Sandy funding, which he said last year resembled a “slush fund.”
“That won’t happen in Oklahoma,” he continued on Tuesday.
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May 21, 2013
 
MistyGirl wrote:
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That's ridiculous and you know it. It's like saying Oklahomans can only drive on federally funded roads on the weekend because the real taxpayers paying for it are using federal highways Monday thru Friday!
Please everyone who can, donate to the Red Cross or Salvation Army. You'll be happy to hear our 53' trailer was loaded to the hilt with basic necessities by midnight last night and was unloaded ready for dispersal at O' dark thirty this morning.
It's returned and being loaded again. Wal-Mart has been wonderful and I'm sure they will continue to assist. Special thanks to our friends in Springdale, Rogers and Joplin area for helping, you guys are the greatest!
Hey Ms. Misty, wondering how you were doing, glad to hear everything went well getting supplies to OKC. They sure need the help.

Btw, great post!
Packing Heat

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The damaged area in Moore was 30 square miles--the damage from Sandy was around 2 million square miles--what part of that don't you understand? It spread damage from the Carribean to New Jersey--oh and that includes the US Virgin Islands.
Jesse

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Judging from the actual bill, the "pork" Mr. Inhofe is referring to was still be to be used for the anticipation and prevention of future disasters as well as other Sandy-related damage, even if it was not directly in New Jersey...or is that not allowed - Sandy-related damage in other states should be funded and addressed in a separate bill for each state/territory involved, right?
Mandy

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James Inhofe, more like James Idiot.

The ugliness of the GOP just got uncovered by a big tornado. And it's going to become the real scandal for the next few weeks.
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Meanwhile those of us living in the rational world are simply pissed that people devastated by acts of God are prevented from getting help by politicians like Coburn and Inhofe, because they're politicians first, not people.
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How very true These sanctimonous "Christians" could care les about kids without homes or people living n the street. They and the rest of their tea bag buddies are watching the money. When will they have enough?
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Obama has sure shown what a truly classy man he is. Not likely many voters evolved in this tragedy, but he treats this disaster with the same compassion he did with hurricane Sandy. Unlike even the OK senators.
Stephen

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This is certainly not the first time Inhofe has shown his colors and his compassion. He has a long history. He still lives in a cave. Apparently the voters of OK do too.
Dr Jones

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#40574
May 21, 2013
 
"Wrong -runway" Jim Inhofe should fund the Oklahoma relief with a cut to oil company subsidies.
JAG

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How do Okies like their senators now... They'll all get wood caskets for their children rather then metal, they'll be planted 4 feet deep rather then 6, and when they build new schools, they'll look like the ones down in Mexico rather then made for US kids.... That will show those big government types. The lack of compassion....
TAMARA

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Let's speak plainly, Oklahoma already receives $1.48 for each dollar Oklahoma sends in to the federal government. So, Oklahoma is already receiving far more than it's share of federal government money. It is not fair to ask other states to give even more to Oklahoma in federal money. Oklahoma needs to decide what money it is already receiving to offset the federal aid it will need for this tornado, just as their elected leaders in Congress demand.
Mandy

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Sens. Jim Inhofe and Tom Coburn were not the only Oklahoma congressmen to deny disaster assistance to other states in the time of need. Oklahoma's two freshman congressmen, Jim Bridenstine and Markwayne Mullin voted against emergency relief for flood victims in the northeast United States in 2012.

With these stand up gentlemen leading the way, I am sure that Oklahoma is more than capable of pulling themselves up by their own bootstraps without federal assistance. Right?
Dempsey

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The WHOLE okie delegation to DC blocked or voted against Hurricane Sandy relief EXCEPT Tom Cole who represents Moore....They all need to be skewered by their constituents... That gov fallon is a nasty piece of career politician as well!
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FAKE Donnie wrote:
Oklahoma Sen. Jim Inhofe, who wanted to slash Hurricane Sandy recovery funding, said on Tuesday that aid for his state would look different in the wake of a devastating tornado.
“Let’s look at that, that was totally different,” Inhofe (R-Okla.) said on MSNBC on Tuesday when asked about his Sandy position.“They were getting things — for instance that was supposed to be in New Jersey, they had things in the Virgin Islands, they were fixing roads there, they were putting roofs on houses in Washington, D.C., everyone was getting in and exploiting the tragedy taking place.”
His comments came a day after a massive and deadly tornado struck his state. Inhofe pledged that relief for Oklahoma wouldn’t look like the Sandy funding, which he said last year resembled a “slush fund.”
“That won’t happen in Oklahoma,” he continued on Tuesday.
Come on jutaliar post under your own name, geez!
Justic

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New York Rep. Peter King on Tuesday said he’s willing to overlook the “hypocrisy” of lawmakers who opposed aid for his state in the wake of Superstorm Sandy but might support funding for tornado-stricken Oklahoma.
“I think there’s a lot of hypocrisy involved here,[Sen. James] Inhofe saying Sandy aid was corrupt but Oklahoma won’t be,” King (R-N.Y.) told POLITICO.“But I don’t want to hold the people of Oklahoma responsible for what elected officials are saying, for the husband and wife without a home, for the people who lost all their worldly possessions.”

King, who stressed that he wasn’t looking for a fight, emphasized that aid should be provided to Oklahoma — which sustained a deadly tornado on Monday — without the requirement of budgetary offsets.

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