OK Health Care Freedom Amendment, Sta...

OK Health Care Freedom Amendment, State Question 756

Created by CitizenTopix on Oct 11, 2010

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So What

Mcloud, OK

#40290 May 19, 2013
More sales tax? How much more sales tax? Are you going to raise sales tax on everything I buy? What about the money I have saved for my retirement, I already paid federal taxes on it, are you going to tax that money again? Isn't that double taxation? What if I lose my job, are you going to tax me at the same rate?

Do you see where I'm going with this?

Next time you here a politician proclaiming Flat Tax on his soap box. Ask him these questions. They will either tell you that these things will need to be worked out. Or they will have you escorted to the door because your being anti-social.

Flat Tax is only a topic to get votes. That is why you don't here anything about it when we aren't in an election cycle.
So What

Mcloud, OK

#40291 May 19, 2013
I'm sorry I thought the topic was Fair Tax. My medication is fogging my mind.
So What

Mcloud, OK

#40292 May 19, 2013
Senate and house election cycle. We are always in a presidential election cycle.
So What

Mcloud, OK

#40293 May 19, 2013
I don't know anything about Warren Buffet's taxes.
I thought personal tax info was protected by law.
But if he is not paying his taxes on time then he will pay penalties and interest. Judging by what Forbes 500 has to say about him, I believe that would be some good revenue. At least that would bring him closer to the rate I pay.
Justaminute

Oklahoma City, OK

#40294 May 19, 2013
Fortunately for us, the flat tax advocates have shown us how poor they are at economics and taxation. They gave us supply side economics and brought down the world's economy.

Even Bush who drove their policies didn't introduce the flat tax.
So What

Mcloud, OK

#40295 May 19, 2013
Good news! Federal Employees may receive a tax break.

Because of the furloughs many federal employees will be thrown into a lower tax bracket.

Finally Washington has found away to cut taxes.
Justaminute

Oklahoma City, OK

#40296 May 19, 2013
I see that Packing Racism is working overtime to promote the fallacy that I'm spending my time posting yesterday using your fake names. He must have a lot of time on his hands.
So What

Mcloud, OK

#40297 May 19, 2013
I have a question. Is a progressive liberal the same thing as a bleeding heart liberal? I hope I didn't give away my age by asking this question.
So What

Mcloud, OK

#40298 May 19, 2013
Oh. the senseless violence is about to begin. It looks like it is a good time for me to go. I have to go to Mathis Bros and tell them they suck. Then I have to find a furniture store that isn't owned by them. Sounds like a pain in the ....back is on the horizon. But I have to find a recliner for after my surgery. my Archie Bunker Chair isn't going to cut it. Have fun.
Justaminute

Oklahoma City, OK

#40299 May 19, 2013
So What wrote:
I have a question. Is a progressive liberal the same thing as a bleeding heart liberal? I hope I didn't give away my age by asking this question.
Yes it is. On this board liberal,progressive,democrat,s ocial,communist,bleeding heart, or any other descriptor that they can come up with are used inter changeably.

Now I am off to the hospital. Talk to you later.
DoesntMatter

Cushing, OK

#40300 May 19, 2013
Justaminute wrote:
<quoted text>Yes it is. On this board liberal,progressive,democrat,s ocial,communist,bleeding heart, or any other descriptor that they can come up with are used inter changeably.

Now I am off to the hospital. Talk to you later.
Talk about pot calling kettle! Hello!!
Packing Heat

Vinita, OK

#40301 May 19, 2013
How would any of you feel if you found out that your daughter was forced to shower with a boy at school?
How would you feel if you were told by the school that there is nothing they or you can or will do about it?

The California Assembly (same as House of Representatives in most states) passed Assembly Bill 1266 by a 46-25 vote. Currently, there are 54 Democrats, 25 Republicans and 1 vacancy. All 46 votes for the bill were Democrats as no Republicans voted in favor of the measure.

Assembly Bill 1266 states that public schools cannot discriminate in any way concerning the sex of the student. Both sexes are to have equal access to all offered courses, counseling and athletics. Any student can try out for any sport, regardless of their sex.

But the kicker is this statement contained in the bill:

SECTION 1. Section 221.5 of the Education Code is amended to read:
(f) A pupil shall be permitted to participate in sex-segregated school programs and facilities, including athletic teams and competitions, and use facilities consistent with his or her gender identity, irrespective of the gender listed on the pupil’s records.

In other words, any boy who claims he is a girl, even though he is anatomically still a boy, would be allowed to use the same locker rooms and showers that the girls use. On the opposite side, a girl claiming to be a boy but is still anatomically a girl would be allowed to shower with all the boys. They don’t even have to be undergoing any form of sex change therapy, just say they are the opposite sex from what they really are and they can parade around in all their glory in either locker room or shower.

Would it surprise you to learn that the bill’s author, Assemblyman Tom Ammiano is a Democrat and flaming homosexual from San Francisco? He is also heavily involved in LGBT activist groups. In 1975 Ammiano became the first public school teacher in San Francisco to publicly admit that he was a flaming homosexual and pecker puffer.

In his warped sense of logic, Ammiano believes that this bill doesn’t violate or pose a problem to anyone else’s rights. Defending his gay bill he said:
There’s no trampling of other people’s rights. There’s a recognition that other people have the same rights that you do. It’s also important to protect our children from prejudice.

What about the right of privacy, modesty and decency? What about the right of a parent to protect their children from sexual perversion of these perverts? I wouldn’t expect anyone with the perverse morals of a flaming homosexual to understand that millions of parents do not want their children exposed to the shameless naked displays of the opposite sex as children if at all possible and that is exactly what this bill will allow.

What is to stop a boy from wanting his thrills by claiming to be a girl just so that he can shower with them and expose himself to them every day at school? What would stop that same boy from eventually claiming that he was wrong and that he’s really a boy so that he can return to his normal life when the thrill is gone? Will there be any monitoring of the so-called gender identity individuals to make sure that they are not taking advantage of a member of the opposite sex?

This bill is not about equal rights for gays, it’s about privileged rights! Yes, it does trample on the rights of others but that’s exactly their intention. They don’t want equality, they want preferential treatment and rights that go above and beyond what normal people have. And unless True Americans start standing up for their rights and get involved in politics at the local, state, and federal levels, we will lose to these sexual perverts whose agenda is and always has been to destroy America!
http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/13-14/bill/asm/...
Packing Heat

Vinita, OK

#40302 May 19, 2013
The progressive liberals always sugar-coat its real positions that's very misleading. They never use the term “pro-abortion” for instance. It’s always “pro-choice.” They rarely say homosexual, it’s usually gay. They are superficial, narrow-minded, and extremely retarded. They want to change the fundamental nature of America, but they have not really looked all that deeply into the reality of what America really is and always has been. All of their solutions are short-sighted ones rather than addressing root problems.

Consider their cure for poverty. It might give a little money to some people who currently have little, but these leftist radical retards have failed to understand why most people are poor. It’s often not because they are under-privileged. It’s usually because they are lazy and welfare doesn’t curtail laziness, it promotes it. And regardless of what these morons may say, progressive liberals are the most intolerant, close-minded assclowns around. Need I mention Chick-Fil-A and now all this corruption secretly promoted by the Obama Administration as a reminder?

On the other hand, people who believe in smaller government tend to be much more open-minded. Think about it for a minute. They want you to be able to do what you think is best for yourself more than you to be forced to do what their representatives think is best for you. Progressive Liberals don’t really care what you think is best for yourself. They want government to tell you what you should and shouldn’t be doing, believing, saying, etc. both inside and outside of your home and business. They want to do whatever they want without anyone telling them it’s not a good idea… even if it makes everyone else miserable.

Under their regressive programs of social justice, the only things that have progressed are illiteracy, poverty, crime, injustice and tyranny to name just a few social ills their policies have gotten us into and this mess isn’t all that novel either. These retarded morons have been attempting them against all sound judgment forever and they have never worked anywhere, EVER! They shouldn’t have been allowed to do this. The fact is that reasonable, freedom-loving patriots have always been the most common sense people around.
So What

Mcloud, OK

#40303 May 19, 2013
Justaminute wrote:
Fortunately for us, the flat tax advocates have shown us how poor they are at economics and taxation. They gave us supply side economics and brought down the world's economy.
Even Bush who drove their policies didn't introduce the flat tax.
That is true. W believed in trickle down economics.
So What

Mcloud, OK

#40304 May 19, 2013
Packing Heat wrote:
The progressive liberals always sugar-coat its real positions that's very misleading. They never use the term “pro-abortion” for instance. It’s always “pro-choice.” They rarely say homosexual, it’s usually gay. They are superficial, narrow-minded, and extremely retarded. They want to change the fundamental nature of America, but they have not really looked all that deeply into the reality of what America really is and always has been. All of their solutions are short-sighted ones rather than addressing root problems.
Consider their cure for poverty. It might give a little money to some people who currently have little, but these leftist radical retards have failed to understand why most people are poor. It’s often not because they are under-privileged. It’s usually because they are lazy and welfare doesn’t curtail laziness, it promotes it. And regardless of what these morons may say, progressive liberals are the most intolerant, close-minded assclowns around. Need I mention Chick-Fil-A and now all this corruption secretly promoted by the Obama Administration as a reminder?
On the other hand, people who believe in smaller government tend to be much more open-minded. Think about it for a minute. They want you to be able to do what you think is best for yourself more than you to be forced to do what their representatives think is best for you. Progressive Liberals don’t really care what you think is best for yourself. They want government to tell you what you should and shouldn’t be doing, believing, saying, etc. both inside and outside of your home and business. They want to do whatever they want without anyone telling them it’s not a good idea… even if it makes everyone else miserable.
Under their regressive programs of social justice, the only things that have progressed are illiteracy, poverty, crime, injustice and tyranny to name just a few social ills their policies have gotten us into and this mess isn’t all that novel either. These retarded morons have been attempting them against all sound judgment forever and they have never worked anywhere, EVER! They shouldn’t have been allowed to do this. The fact is that reasonable, freedom-loving patriots have always been the most common sense people around.
Hey Packing Heat, is a bleeding heart liberal the same as a progressive liberal?
SayWhat

United States

#40305 May 19, 2013
So What wrote:
I have a question. Is a progressive liberal the same thing as a bleeding heart liberal? I hope I didn't give away my age by asking this question.
Bleeding Heart Progressive Liberal DESCRIPTION OF THE SAME VIRUS! Why didn't you answer the question posed to you earlier....

WHAT DO YOU CALL FORMER PRESIDENT BILL CLINTON AND JIMMY CARTER?
So What

Mcloud, OK

#40306 May 19, 2013
I don't care who someone has sex with, it is really none of my business. But for some reason everyone wants to make it my business. Please give them the so called equal rights they are asking for. I'm tired of hearing about it. In other words get a room.
SayWhat

United States

#40307 May 19, 2013
Justaminute wrote:
<quoted text>Yes it is. On this board liberal,progressive,democrat,s ocial,communist,bleeding heart, or any other descriptor that they can come up with are used inter changeably.
Now I am off to the hospital. Talk to you later.
Lies, lies, and more lies. We have registered democrats on this thread who post JAG, Tamara, Dee and of course you but your the only one who after years of being accused of being a Progressive Liberal, finally admitted you were one after you were cornered I might add. I mean it wasn't a secret since you're the only rabid progressive George Soros paid hack on this thread.
So What

Mcloud, OK

#40308 May 19, 2013
Times up. My boss says I have to go.
SayWhat

United States

#40309 May 19, 2013
Justaminute wrote:
Fortunately for us, the flat tax advocates have shown us how poor they are at economics and taxation. They gave us supply side economics and brought down the world's economy.
Even Bush who drove their policies didn't introduce the flat tax.
Talking out of both sides of your mouth again, nothing new for you though. Flat tax if it was set up as a consumer tax would be collected by the state and I would suggest as one tax at the POS (point of sale) where the state/federal tax was collected. The state gets their portion and sends the federal portion to Washington. State tax is already collected by the states at all POS
on a monthly schedule so no issues there as it has worked well since inception. As mentioned before low income/poor would be exempt on basic needs such as groceries etc. This would eliminate the ridiculous complicated tax codes, majorly streamline the process where it would be much easier to enforce, business would know what the hell to expect so they can plan long term.

Many advantages to flat tax.

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