OK Health Care Freedom Amendment, State Question 756

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Zane

United States

#40186 May 17, 2013
So What wrote:
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The IRS is grossly understaffed for the job that they are asked to do.
And OBAMACARE has been dumped on them, with no extra staffing.
And as for Steve Miller; He has done his twenty-five years of service and is eligible for full retirement at this time.
Did you watch the entire Miller testimony today?
Donnie

United States

#40187 May 17, 2013
So What wrote:
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I made an analogy a few blogs back and was criticized for it. My point is that the employees of the IRS have an important job to do, and just because a few employees choose to do the wrong thing. That doesn't make every IRS employee a criminal or evil.
How many is a 'few' to you?
DoesntMatter

Perkins, OK

#40188 May 17, 2013
So What wrote:
<quoted text>I made an analogy a few blogs back and was criticized for it. My point is that the employees of the IRS have an important job to do, and just because a few employees choose to do the wrong thing. That doesn't make every IRS employee a criminal or evil.
I don't think anyone thinks every one of them is evil. But the IRS is a waste of taxpayer money. Flat tax and let's get on
Donnie

United States

#40189 May 17, 2013
DoesntMatter wrote:
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Um no it's not staffing. The IRS has admitted it and it was admitted in hearings today.
Yep. Another fact is Obama's half brother was operating a illegal one for 4 years then finally he applied and it was granted in a month plus his approval status was retro-active...amazing how that worked out, just amazing!

Now on the other hand we have a woman in Texas (Houston area) who applied for (501)C3 and (501)C4 and she has waited over 3 years and been required to jump through all kinds of ridiculous (Steve Miller call the questions 'obnoxious')hoops for the IRS, then guess what happened to her:
IRS pulls a complete audit of her personal and business.
FBI/ATF make multiple visits and audited her guns unannounced.
OSHA decides to pull audit of her business.
DEQ decides to pull audit on her business.

What happened to this woman who never had any issue with infractions or violations who had never been questioned by the IRS in any way for years suddenly the full weight of the federal government lands on her shoulders and she has had no violations to date but her applications are 'pending' after 3 years.

Eric Boling made a statement of criticism about President Obama on air and shortly afterward gets a letter from the IRS he's being audited.

The list is long and getting longer of people ALL CONSERVATIVE or associated to conservative organizations like the TEA PARTY.

This is beyond mere coincidental evidence!
Maddy

United States

#40190 May 17, 2013
DoesntMatter wrote:
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I don't think anyone thinks every one of them is evil. But the IRS is a waste of taxpayer money. Flat tax and let's get on
I would describe the abuses of the IRS as insidious and illegal. I would also suggest it is in the interest of both parties to root out this illegal behavior and put those guilty no matter how high this goes in jail. If this isn't corrected in full without political gaming on either the republican or democratic side, no citizen in the United States will ever recover any trust in the IRS or in government of any administration. This is serious and touches every single one in America.
So What

Mcloud, OK

#40191 May 17, 2013
DoesntMatter wrote:
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I don't think anyone thinks every one of them is evil. But the IRS is a waste of taxpayer money. Flat tax and let's get on


As long as there are taxes, we will have the IRS. Someone still has to collect and make sure everyone is not cheating the U.S.A.

I know the Politicians like to make us believe that if elected they can make the IRS go away, but these are the same people that tell us they are for education, and when they are running for office, and when they get to the Capitol they cut the education budget.

So What

Mcloud, OK

#40192 May 17, 2013
Donnie wrote:
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How many is a 'few' to you?
Most are just pawns. They are doing what they are told or else.
So What

Mcloud, OK

#40193 May 17, 2013
Maddy wrote:
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I would describe the abuses of the IRS as insidious and illegal. I would also suggest it is in the interest of both parties to root out this illegal behavior and put those guilty no matter how high this goes in jail. If this isn't corrected in full without political gaming on either the republican or democratic side, no citizen in the United States will ever recover any trust in the IRS or in government of any administration. This is serious and touches every single one in America.
I don't think anybody has ever trusted the IRS. They aren't our friend. All we are to them is a social security number.
So What

Mcloud, OK

#40194 May 17, 2013
Zane wrote:
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Did you watch the entire Miller testimony today?
Haven't watched it. It would interfere with my addiction to the financial channels.
So What

Mcloud, OK

#40195 May 17, 2013
Zane wrote:
Fox News and Conservative Talk Radio Republicans:
These are one of the angriest groups of Republicans. They watch Fox News or listen to Conservative Talk Radio and they think it makes them an expert on politics. The only knowledge they have of politics is parroted talking points without any facts to back them up. When you defeat them in debate they will resort to calling you names like “Liberal,”“commie,”“socialist” or “baby-killer” etc. They think all liberals are socialists that want to take their money and give it to people who don’t deserve it.
The reason why this type of Republican is an idiot:
They have no idea what they are talking about. Usually they’re just repeating things they have heard from Glenn Beck or Rush Limbaugh. They think that liberals want to take away their freedoms and they clearly don’t know what the word “liberal” means, or what liberals have done for our country and freedom. They think President Obama is comparable to Hitler for passing health-care reform. They accuse you of watching MSNBC if you don’t agree with them. They call you a sheep but expect you to blindly believe everything they tell you, without question.
What to Remember when debating them:
Keep demanding facts from them to back up their assertions until they break down and call you any of the aforementioned names. Ask them to name specific freedoms that liberals have taken away from them. They have a tendency to become violent so watch their hands if you are debating them face to face.


Just because I don't hate Republicans like you do doesn't give the right to attack me every chance you get.
Marcus

United States

#40196 May 17, 2013
So What wrote:
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Just because I don't hate Republicans like you do doesn't give the right to attack me every chance you get.
That's not the real Zane but someone pretending.
So What

Mcloud, OK

#40197 May 17, 2013
So What wrote:
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Just because I don't hate Republicans like you do doesn't give the right to attack me every chance you get.
Just kidding you can attack me anytime you want to.
Donnie

United States

#40198 May 17, 2013
So What wrote:
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Most are just pawns. They are doing what they are told or else.
You still didn't address my question did you? How many is a 'few'?
Donnie

United States

#40199 May 17, 2013
Maddy wrote:
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I would describe the abuses of the IRS as insidious and illegal. I would also suggest it is in the interest of both parties to root out this illegal behavior and put those guilty no matter how high this goes in jail. If this isn't corrected in full without political gaming on either the republican or democratic side, no citizen in the United States will ever recover any trust in the IRS or in government of any administration. This is serious and touches every single one in America.
I think you are exactly right. I never 'liked' the IRS because I think I have to pay a way to many taxes but I assumed what laws and guidelines were being equally administered to everyone. Clearly the train jumped the tracks big time with outrageous abuses to only conservative groups.
So What

Mcloud, OK

#40200 May 17, 2013
Donnie wrote:
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You still didn't address my question did you? How many is a 'few'?
I don't know how many employees the Cincinnati office has, but as of right now everyone is guilty until proven innocent including house keeping, thanks to the media sharks.
Donnie

United States

#40201 May 17, 2013
So What wrote:
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Just kidding you can attack me anytime you want to.
We have someone who enjoys taking other people's usernames and posting b.s. if you look back earlier on this thread the same person would post perverted sexually explicit posts against anyone who didn't tow the progressive liberal agenda's talking points. This thread has people who are republican, democrat and independent, Christian, non-christain and agnostic, atheist even but only one who is a rabid foaming at the mouth progressive liberal. Only intermittently does 'she' deviate from the rabid posture then she will return back to it often times posting under others usernames usually after she falsely claims she's taking a trip or won't be posting for a while...LOL. Just watch I've watched this cycle for 3 years, Tamara, MistyGirl,Jag,Packing Heat and a few others have all figured out her cycle.

Marcus

United States

#40202 May 17, 2013
So What wrote:
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Haven't watched it. It would interfere with my addiction to the financial channels.
You should have recorded it, lol. Very enlightening, and shocking just how bad the situation really is at the IRS. Maybe you have a friend who did record the entire hearing? Make sure it's all of it because there were several both republicans and democrats who refused to be buffaloed and manipulated when questioning Miller and it's clear this was systemic 'on purpose' targeting of only certain specific groups by the IRS.
So What

Mcloud, OK

#40203 May 17, 2013
Donnie wrote:
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I think you are exactly right. I never 'liked' the IRS because I think I have to pay a way to many taxes but I assumed what laws and guidelines were being equally administered to everyone. Clearly the train jumped the tracks big time with outrageous abuses to only conservative groups.
The IRS employees are people too, they are subject to the same emotions and misdeeds as the rest of us. Except for me. I'm perfect. My dog tells me so every time I play ball with her. My kids don't think so, but they don't know, they don't even have jobs.
Donnie

United States

#40204 May 17, 2013
So What wrote:
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I don't know how many employees the Cincinnati office has, but as of right now everyone is guilty until proven innocent including house keeping, thanks to the media sharks.
That's why this hearing today was so important to see. If you listen to the MSM it was suppose to be a couple of rogue employees out of the Cincinnati Office. Miller even tried to perpetuate 'a few' employees in the Cincinnati Office. Under further hard questioning he said around 100+(don't remember the exact number)employees then later in the hearing another skilled Congressman who obviously was very comfortable with interrogating a witness got Miller to admit it wasn't just the 'Cincinnati Office' involved and the department which is guilty is somewhere around 200 employees then what Miller called an additional handful of other employees who are scattered all over the U.S. who coordinated with the department in Cincinnati to target these conservative groups. Miller keep saying it was just a mistake which both democrats and republicans congressmen equally didn't buy for a minute. Charlie Rangel was livid. But he wasn't the only one!
Donnie

United States

#40205 May 17, 2013
So What wrote:
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The IRS employees are people too, they are subject to the same emotions and misdeeds as the rest of us. Except for me. I'm perfect. My dog tells me so every time I play ball with her. My kids don't think so, but they don't know, they don't even have jobs.
Good IRS professionals should be enraged by those who were involved in this illegal behavior. Emotions? Are you saying calling the IRS on the carpet might hurt someone's feelings? Please tell me that wasn't your intent!

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