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OK Health Care Freedom Amendment, State Question 756

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I think a U.S. soldier that walks into a village of people, and slaughters them is outright ridiculous. But that doesn't give me the right to believe that every U.S. Soldier should be held liable for the crime.
I'm not accusing you of doing that. The point I'm trying to make is that you don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. There are a lot of good IRS employees that do a thankless job, and are being included in this and it isn't right.
I wouldn't mind explaining MY point of view as to why the IRS sucks
so bad. All you have to do is ask.
I don't agree with your statement. These hearings are about finding the responsible parties in the IRS. In the hearing over and over again those testifying were asked who made the decisions to implement the 'list' which Miller would not answer, giving instead a long winded monologue which didn't answer anything and the questioner's time would expire and then he'd do it all over again. Someone knows who ordered this criteria, they just handed us Miller as the scapegoat. Doesn't pass the smell test!

How many times did Miller say he didn't know or didn't remember? I lost count.
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1.Do you work for the IRS?
2.Do you work for a progressive liberal group?
3.What color is your underwear on Friday's?
4.Is it a different color than Tuesday's?
5.What church do you attend?
6.Do you support ObamaCare?
If not, then list in alphabetical order 15,000 species of flying insects identified to reside in the Amazon Jungle?(attach pages if necessary).
7.Have you ever voted for a democrat? Yes or NO?
8.Are you registered as a democrat? Yes or No?
If no, then attach your doctoral thesis on the regressive hypocritical practices of being a white Christian with racist tendencies must be no less than 1500 pages and is due not later than before end of the day.
Great point! Irony, sarcasm and humor, lol, well done!
Steve

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Every penny I owe. Which really sucks. Do you know someone that doesn't?
Sure, I've been aware of people over the years who didn't pay all their income tax liability because there is a whole economy which is cash based no documentation. That's why I support a flat consumer tax that way everyone pays fairly across the board the more you buy (as with the wealthy) the more you pay in taxes, the poor would be waived the tax and basic needs such as groceries would be tax free. Simple it wouldn't require a huge broken tax code easy to implement. Everyone would know exactly what their tax liability would be and businesses especially small business could plan for the future instead of dealing with all this uncertainty and game playing that our Congress puts them through. Simple tax code would enhance businesses freedom to create more jobs.
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So What wrote:
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I think a U.S. soldier that walks into a village of people, and slaughters them is outright ridiculous. But that doesn't give me the right to believe that every U.S. Soldier should be held liable for the crime.
I'm not accusing you of doing that. The point I'm trying to make is that you don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. There are a lot of good IRS employees that do a thankless job, and are being included in this and it isn't right.
I wouldn't mind explaining MY point of view as to why the IRS sucks
so bad. All you have to do is ask.
WOW, No one has been murdered or died due to the IRS abuses to my knowledge, perhaps a different analogy would have been more apropos?
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WOW, No one has been murdered or died due to the IRS abuses to my knowledge, perhaps a different analogy would have been more apropos?
Yep, over the top and off the reservation....
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I'm off to do children things. Zippo I will answer all your question when the EPA gets done with my underwear study. It will be at least two years. Hopefully me changing my underwear won't interfere
with their job. TAMARA I will be getting back to you about the burden that has been placed on your loved ones.
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I'm off to do children things. Zippo I will answer all your question when the EPA gets done with my underwear study. It will be at least two years. Hopefully me changing my underwear won't interfere
with their job. TAMARA I will be getting back to you about the burden that has been placed on your loved ones.
No need to burden yourself I have most of the answers already, those I don't have I know how to get the answers.

Thanks anyway,:-)
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Flashback: Schumer, Franken urged IRS to target tea party in 2012

http://dailycaller.com/2013/05/17/flashback-s...
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Maddy wrote:
<quoted text>I don't agree with your statement. These hearings are about finding the responsible parties in the IRS. In the hearing over and over again those testifying were asked who made the decisions to implement the 'list' which Miller would not answer, giving instead a long winded monologue which didn't answer anything and the questioner's time would expire and then he'd do it all over again. Someone knows who ordered this criteria, they just handed us Miller as the scapegoat. Doesn't pass the smell test!

How many times did Miller say he didn't know or didn't remember? I lost count.
Probably as many as Holder did in his hearing Wednesday
TAMARA

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How old is she?
My friend is 63.
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WOW, No one has been murdered or died due to the IRS abuses to my knowledge, perhaps a different analogy would have been more apropos?
If some idiot were to attack an IRS office because they were driven to it by the media feeding frenzy, what would you say about that?
And yes, IRS employees have been attacked and killed in the past, and the people that did it, had a grudge against the IRS.
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Fox News and Conservative Talk Radio Republicans:

These are one of the angriest groups of Republicans. They watch Fox News or listen to Conservative Talk Radio and they think it makes them an expert on politics. The only knowledge they have of politics is parroted talking points without any facts to back them up. When you defeat them in debate they will resort to calling you names like “Liberal,”“commie,”“socialist” or “baby-killer” etc. They think all liberals are socialists that want to take their money and give it to people who don’t deserve it.

The reason why this type of Republican is an idiot:

They have no idea what they are talking about. Usually they’re just repeating things they have heard from Glenn Beck or Rush Limbaugh. They think that liberals want to take away their freedoms and they clearly don’t know what the word “liberal” means, or what liberals have done for our country and freedom. They think President Obama is comparable to Hitler for passing health-care reform. They accuse you of watching MSNBC if you don’t agree with them. They call you a sheep but expect you to blindly believe everything they tell you, without question.

What to Remember when debating them:

Keep demanding facts from them to back up their assertions until they break down and call you any of the aforementioned names. Ask them to name specific freedoms that liberals have taken away from them. They have a tendency to become violent so watch their hands if you are debating them face to face.
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Are all these stupid, ill-mannered, republicans and wantabee repigs in the 1% of the ultra rich or are they just surrogates for the 1%?

"""A mouthpiece for the rich and usually talking out their azz because their mouth knows better."""
So What

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May 17, 2013
 
TAMARA wrote:
<quoted text>My friend is 63.
Has she applied for SSDI?
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So What wrote:
<quoted text>If some idiot were to attack an IRS office because they were driven to it by the media feeding frenzy, what would you say about that?
And yes, IRS employees have been attacked and killed in the past, and the people that did it, had a grudge against the IRS.
Then that person and no one else is responsible for their own actions.
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Zane wrote:
Fox News and Conservative Talk Radio Republicans:
These are one of the angriest groups of Republicans. They watch Fox News or listen to Conservative Talk Radio and they think it makes them an expert on politics. The only knowledge they have of politics is parroted talking points without any facts to back them up. When you defeat them in debate they will resort to calling you names like “Liberal,”“commie,”“socialist” or “baby-killer” etc. They think all liberals are socialists that want to take their money and give it to people who don’t deserve it.
The reason why this type of Republican is an idiot:
They have no idea what they are talking about. Usually they’re just repeating things they have heard from Glenn Beck or Rush Limbaugh. They think that liberals want to take away their freedoms and they clearly don’t know what the word “liberal” means, or what liberals have done for our country and freedom. They think President Obama is comparable to Hitler for passing health-care reform. They accuse you of watching MSNBC if you don’t agree with them. They call you a sheep but expect you to blindly believe everything they tell you, without question.
What to Remember when debating them:
Keep demanding facts from them to back up their assertions until they break down and call you any of the aforementioned names. Ask them to name specific freedoms that liberals have taken away from them. They have a tendency to become violent so watch their hands if you are debating them face to face.
Sounds like they are describing my Mom, except she is democrat. I guess that would make her a DINO.
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Donnie wrote:
Over 3 years pending approval, ridiculous!


That has more to do with the lack of IRS staffing. A few years ago it was an average of 2yrs, but it depends on the size of the organization they are investigating. It has to be proven that your a legit non-profit organization. The bigger you are the longer it takes.
TAMARA

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Has she applied for SSDI?
I don't know. But where my friend was they were to get her ready to do and handle physical therpy. She did not get that point. They have so many days to do this. Ins. only pays for 20 days of the therapy to get her ready for the hard core therapy and then ins, only pays for 25 days. Since she did not passed she was bumped down to a healthcare facility called a log term health care facility. There are many reasons she did not make it. When I was in charge of my Dads healthcare before he passed away I did learn even if you have the best health care it also takes the patients will to do all it takes to get to a better point. That is if a better point is possible. Also these healthcare facilities can accept you or not. The ones in Oklahoma City and some she had already been there would accept her so then the health ins gives you alist of the ones that will. On this list Kingfisher was the closes. As time goes on maybe I will learn more what's going on.
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TAMARA wrote:
<quoted text>I don't know. But where my friend was they were to get her ready to do and handle physical therpy. She did not get that point. They have so many days to do this. Ins. only pays for 20 days of the therapy to get her ready for the hard core therapy and then ins, only pays for 25 days. Since she did not passed she was bumped down to a healthcare facility called a log term health care facility. There are many reasons she did not make it. When I was in charge of my Dads healthcare before he passed away I did learn even if you have the best health care it also takes the patients will to do all it takes to get to a better point. That is if a better point is possible. Also these healthcare facilities can accept you or not. The ones in Oklahoma City and some she had already been there would accept her so then the health ins gives you alist of the ones that will. On this list Kingfisher was the closes. As time goes on maybe I will learn more what's going on.
Is she on social security?
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So What wrote:
<quoted text>That has more to do with the lack of IRS staffing. A few years ago it was an average of 2yrs, but it depends on the size of the organization they are investigating. It has to be proven that your a legit non-profit organization. The bigger you are the longer it takes.
Um no it's not staffing. The IRS has admitted it and it was admitted in hearings today.

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