OK Health Care Freedom Amendment, Sta...

OK Health Care Freedom Amendment, State Question 756

Created by CitizenTopix on Oct 11, 2010

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So What

Mcloud, OK

#40170 May 17, 2013
TAMARA wrote:
<quoted text>My friend is 63.
Has she applied for SSDI?
DoesntMatter

Cushing, OK

#40171 May 17, 2013
So What wrote:
<quoted text>If some idiot were to attack an IRS office because they were driven to it by the media feeding frenzy, what would you say about that?
And yes, IRS employees have been attacked and killed in the past, and the people that did it, had a grudge against the IRS.
Then that person and no one else is responsible for their own actions.
So What

Mcloud, OK

#40172 May 17, 2013
Zane wrote:
Fox News and Conservative Talk Radio Republicans:
These are one of the angriest groups of Republicans. They watch Fox News or listen to Conservative Talk Radio and they think it makes them an expert on politics. The only knowledge they have of politics is parroted talking points without any facts to back them up. When you defeat them in debate they will resort to calling you names like “Liberal,”“commie,”“socialist” or “baby-killer” etc. They think all liberals are socialists that want to take their money and give it to people who don’t deserve it.
The reason why this type of Republican is an idiot:
They have no idea what they are talking about. Usually they’re just repeating things they have heard from Glenn Beck or Rush Limbaugh. They think that liberals want to take away their freedoms and they clearly don’t know what the word “liberal” means, or what liberals have done for our country and freedom. They think President Obama is comparable to Hitler for passing health-care reform. They accuse you of watching MSNBC if you don’t agree with them. They call you a sheep but expect you to blindly believe everything they tell you, without question.
What to Remember when debating them:
Keep demanding facts from them to back up their assertions until they break down and call you any of the aforementioned names. Ask them to name specific freedoms that liberals have taken away from them. They have a tendency to become violent so watch their hands if you are debating them face to face.
Sounds like they are describing my Mom, except she is democrat. I guess that would make her a DINO.
So What

Mcloud, OK

#40173 May 17, 2013
Donnie wrote:
Over 3 years pending approval, ridiculous!


That has more to do with the lack of IRS staffing. A few years ago it was an average of 2yrs, but it depends on the size of the organization they are investigating. It has to be proven that your a legit non-profit organization. The bigger you are the longer it takes.
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#40174 May 17, 2013
So What wrote:
<quoted text>
Has she applied for SSDI?
I don't know. But where my friend was they were to get her ready to do and handle physical therpy. She did not get that point. They have so many days to do this. Ins. only pays for 20 days of the therapy to get her ready for the hard core therapy and then ins, only pays for 25 days. Since she did not passed she was bumped down to a healthcare facility called a log term health care facility. There are many reasons she did not make it. When I was in charge of my Dads healthcare before he passed away I did learn even if you have the best health care it also takes the patients will to do all it takes to get to a better point. That is if a better point is possible. Also these healthcare facilities can accept you or not. The ones in Oklahoma City and some she had already been there would accept her so then the health ins gives you alist of the ones that will. On this list Kingfisher was the closes. As time goes on maybe I will learn more what's going on.
So What

Mcloud, OK

#40175 May 17, 2013
TAMARA wrote:
<quoted text>I don't know. But where my friend was they were to get her ready to do and handle physical therpy. She did not get that point. They have so many days to do this. Ins. only pays for 20 days of the therapy to get her ready for the hard core therapy and then ins, only pays for 25 days. Since she did not passed she was bumped down to a healthcare facility called a log term health care facility. There are many reasons she did not make it. When I was in charge of my Dads healthcare before he passed away I did learn even if you have the best health care it also takes the patients will to do all it takes to get to a better point. That is if a better point is possible. Also these healthcare facilities can accept you or not. The ones in Oklahoma City and some she had already been there would accept her so then the health ins gives you alist of the ones that will. On this list Kingfisher was the closes. As time goes on maybe I will learn more what's going on.
Is she on social security?
DoesntMatter

Cushing, OK

#40176 May 17, 2013
So What wrote:
<quoted text>That has more to do with the lack of IRS staffing. A few years ago it was an average of 2yrs, but it depends on the size of the organization they are investigating. It has to be proven that your a legit non-profit organization. The bigger you are the longer it takes.
Um no it's not staffing. The IRS has admitted it and it was admitted in hearings today.
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#40177 May 17, 2013
So What wrote:
<quoted text>
Is she on social security?
I am sorry I do not know. I will try to find out. Just not this weekend because it is my son's and daughter=in-law's son's graduation from Hi school. My friend is my DIL's mother/ She is upset enough with what is going on.
So What

Mcloud, OK

#40178 May 17, 2013
DoesntMatter wrote:
<quoted text>
Then that person and no one else is responsible for their own actions.
I made an analogy a few blogs back and was criticized for it. My point is that the employees of the IRS have an important job to do, and just because a few employees choose to do the wrong thing. That doesn't make every IRS employee a criminal or evil.
So What

Mcloud, OK

#40179 May 17, 2013
TAMARA It sounds like your son is well educated, so he probable has already done this. He needs to go after every penny his mother-in-law is entitled to from the government. SS&SSDI are the first that come to mind. It can be a very long process, in some cases the government is to small and outdated. Don't let feelings slow down the process, it well make matters worse. Trust me I've been thru it.
So What

Mcloud, OK

#40180 May 17, 2013
DoesntMatter wrote:
<quoted text>
Um no it's not staffing. The IRS has admitted it and it was admitted in hearings today.
The IRS is grossly understaffed for the job that they are asked to do.

And OBAMACARE has been dumped on them, with no extra staffing.

And as for Steve Miller; He has done his twenty-five years of service and is eligible for full retirement at this time.
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#40181 May 17, 2013
So What wrote:
TAMARA It sounds like your son is well educated, so he probable has already done this. He needs to go after every penny his mother-in-law is entitled to from the government. SS&SSDI are the first that come to mind. It can be a very long process, in some cases the government is to small and outdated. Don't let feelings slow down the process, it well make matters worse. Trust me I've been thru it.
ONE problem is my friend has a husband. I know she getting some disability benefits. I THINK he IS WORKING ON HER GETTING SS now since she is 63. But sometimes what he is doing he seems to be all the place. The only thing my son can do is offer advice and same with her daughter.
So What

Mcloud, OK

#40182 May 17, 2013
DoesntMatter wrote:
<quoted text>
Then that person and no one else is responsible for their own actions.
Anarchists run in packs most of the time. Just ask Terry Nichols.
Zane

United States

#40183 May 17, 2013
FAKE Zane wrote:
Fox News and Conservative Talk Radio Republicans:
These are one of the angriest groups of Republicans. They watch Fox News or listen to Conservative Talk Radio and they think it makes them an expert on politics. The only knowledge they have of politics is parroted talking points without any facts to back them up. When you defeat them in debate they will resort to calling you names like “Liberal,”“commie,”“socialist” or “baby-killer” etc. They think all liberals are socialists that want to take their money and give it to people who don’t deserve it.
The reason why this type of Republican is an idiot:
They have no idea what they are talking about. Usually they’re just repeating things they have heard from Glenn Beck or Rush Limbaugh. They think that liberals want to take away their freedoms and they clearly don’t know what the word “liberal” means, or what liberals have done for our country and freedom. They think President Obama is comparable to Hitler for passing health-care reform. They accuse you of watching MSNBC if you don’t agree with them. They call you a sheep but expect you to blindly believe everything they tell you, without question.
What to Remember when debating them:
Keep demanding facts from them to back up their assertions until they break down and call you any of the aforementioned names. Ask them to name specific freedoms that liberals have taken away from them. They have a tendency to become violent so watch their hands if you are debating them face to face.
Stop it justaliar we knew you couldn't stay away, just post under your own name.
Zane

United States

#40184 May 17, 2013
FAKE Donnie wrote:
Are all these stupid, ill-mannered, republicans and wantabee repigs in the 1% of the ultra rich or are they just surrogates for the 1%?
"""A mouthpiece for the rich and usually talking out their azz because their mouth knows better."""
Another obvious fake.
Zane

United States

#40185 May 17, 2013
So What wrote:
<quoted text>
I made an analogy a few blogs back and was criticized for it. My point is that the employees of the IRS have an important job to do, and just because a few employees choose to do the wrong thing. That doesn't make every IRS employee a criminal or evil.
Hello has one person on this thread claimed ALL IRS EMPLOYEES ARE CRIMINAL or EVIL?

Answer: NO

What I see is people posting about a hearing they watched (so they know what was testified too instead of what some blog tells them was said) and whether we got any answers to the important questions that those of us who aren't asleep at the wheel need to know.
Zane

United States

#40186 May 17, 2013
So What wrote:
<quoted text>
The IRS is grossly understaffed for the job that they are asked to do.
And OBAMACARE has been dumped on them, with no extra staffing.
And as for Steve Miller; He has done his twenty-five years of service and is eligible for full retirement at this time.
Did you watch the entire Miller testimony today?
Donnie

United States

#40187 May 17, 2013
So What wrote:
<quoted text>
I made an analogy a few blogs back and was criticized for it. My point is that the employees of the IRS have an important job to do, and just because a few employees choose to do the wrong thing. That doesn't make every IRS employee a criminal or evil.
How many is a 'few' to you?
DoesntMatter

Cushing, OK

#40188 May 17, 2013
So What wrote:
<quoted text>I made an analogy a few blogs back and was criticized for it. My point is that the employees of the IRS have an important job to do, and just because a few employees choose to do the wrong thing. That doesn't make every IRS employee a criminal or evil.
I don't think anyone thinks every one of them is evil. But the IRS is a waste of taxpayer money. Flat tax and let's get on
Donnie

United States

#40189 May 17, 2013
DoesntMatter wrote:
<quoted text>
Um no it's not staffing. The IRS has admitted it and it was admitted in hearings today.
Yep. Another fact is Obama's half brother was operating a illegal one for 4 years then finally he applied and it was granted in a month plus his approval status was retro-active...amazing how that worked out, just amazing!

Now on the other hand we have a woman in Texas (Houston area) who applied for (501)C3 and (501)C4 and she has waited over 3 years and been required to jump through all kinds of ridiculous (Steve Miller call the questions 'obnoxious')hoops for the IRS, then guess what happened to her:
IRS pulls a complete audit of her personal and business.
FBI/ATF make multiple visits and audited her guns unannounced.
OSHA decides to pull audit of her business.
DEQ decides to pull audit on her business.

What happened to this woman who never had any issue with infractions or violations who had never been questioned by the IRS in any way for years suddenly the full weight of the federal government lands on her shoulders and she has had no violations to date but her applications are 'pending' after 3 years.

Eric Boling made a statement of criticism about President Obama on air and shortly afterward gets a letter from the IRS he's being audited.

The list is long and getting longer of people ALL CONSERVATIVE or associated to conservative organizations like the TEA PARTY.

This is beyond mere coincidental evidence!

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