OK Health Care Freedom Amendment, Sta...

OK Health Care Freedom Amendment, State Question 756

Created by CitizenTopix on Oct 11, 2010

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So What

Mcloud, OK

#39752 May 12, 2013
Donnie wrote:
Are all these stupid, ill-mannered, republicans and wantabee repigs in the 1% of the ultra rich or are they just surrogates for the 1%?
"""A mouthpiece for the rich and usually talking out their azz because their mouth knows better."""


Your not helping.
So What

Mcloud, OK

#39753 May 12, 2013
Justaminute wrote:
Sometimes, I think they keep funding for public Education, minimal. That way the cost of education is pushed on to the college level...if the student will go further.
We hear all the time from college or university instructors how the students are more unprepared for college level education...
And to many students are loading themselves up with debt for degrees that are not marketable for the kind of pay they will receive if and when they go out into the workforce.


I don't see how you can say they keep funding for education minimal. Education is not a matter of money, it is a matter of ideals. If you look at the growing list of countries that are doing a better job than we are educating their people, they are doing it with far less money than we are. Education is not about money, it is about priorities, and our society puts more emphasis on how much money can be made off of education, and not enough about education.
Justaminute

Oklahoma City, OK

#39754 May 12, 2013
So What wrote:
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I don't see how you can say they keep funding for education minimal. Education is not a matter of money, it is a matter of ideals. If you look at the growing list of countries that are doing a better job than we are educating their people, they are doing it with far less money than we are. Education is not about money, it is about priorities, and our society puts more emphasis on how much money can be made off of education, and not enough about education.
Many of these countries that you refer to don't have politicians setting arbitrary educational guidelines from administration to administration. Or states administrations budget's that use their educational funding to fill budget shortfalls either.

The second part about Education and money is correct too. But as long as Teachers and education is a political football, nothing will change.
Justaminute

Oklahoma City, OK

#39755 May 12, 2013
I have been in some of these countries that their students achieve more than ours. Their schools have more vigorous educational testing at the end of semester and an overall at-the-end-of-year testing than we do.

They also have places that specialize in offering tutors that help students after school or on weekends and summer months,with subjects that students may need additional help in or a student wants to achieve more mastery in a subject than his grade level offers. Example: mathematics, foreign language, science etc. Usually they are so full that one must be placed on a waiting list.

But of course, parents have to have the financial resources to do this. And the student that wants to achieve this as well.

As well, they hire outside staff for coaching sports activities as their teachers don't do double duty as a sport's coach and a teacher either. Unlike us.
Justaminute

Oklahoma City, OK

#39756 May 12, 2013
And in those countries too: If a student has not done well or achieved a certain grade level, they won't be accepted in the countries universities system. They have a minimal Jr. College system. That's why our universitys and jr. colleges in the US are so popular with foreign student's.
Justaminute

Oklahoma City, OK

#39757 May 12, 2013
Zane wrote:
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Pesky internet where people can examine information in real time. Makes it so much harder to keep a lid on a political scandal doesn't it?
Also lets you review historical content on what a person said one day then later review if they are being consistent (honest) with what they are saying...again pesky.
Where the internet can be a problem is social media if someone has the bully mentality and are abusive by nature. But like anything which is beneficial there is always those who use it for negative reasons only, they don't want to share the truth for everyone to have access to make informed decisions.
THE TRUTH HAS NO AGENDA.
People say things anonymously that they would never say under their real name either.
Justaminute

Oklahoma City, OK

#39758 May 12, 2013
Zippo wrote:
I see Iran had another large earthquake.... Ahmadinejahd agreed with their mullahs it was because of immodest women and the giant earthquake is because of these whores....does that mean since they live under shariah law it's ok for males to beat, maimed or kill females?
I'm sure he would say it's a national security measure.:-)
We have plenty of preachers here in the US that attribute disasters to 'god's punishment because we .....' too.
Justaminute

Oklahoma City, OK

#39759 May 12, 2013
Zippo, your going to have to learn how to spell a new name because Ahmadinejad will no longer be President soon in Iran... Their election year hijinks are in full swing....They have like 110 candidates for President...haha
Justaminute

Oklahoma City, OK

#39760 May 12, 2013
Zane wrote:
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There are already programs which do this so the idea isn't new and has been going on for decades. The difficult part if getting businesses to donate time to mentor these "life students" so they can get their feet wet without focusing college years on a career they are later shocked to find they hate with a purple passion. The key is expanding the number of businesses willing to do a mentoring program.
You can't expect businesses to do it. You need someone to marshal and have the time to do it...and the facilities.

We were approached by a culinary institute to have some of their students work the cooking line....not gonna happen...plus insurance only covers employees that enter the kitchen area..
Zane

United States

#39761 May 12, 2013
Justaminute wrote:
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People say things anonymously that they would never say under their real name either.
Well Karen you should know.
Zane

United States

#39762 May 12, 2013
So What wrote:
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Your not helping.
That a "fake" Donnie posting and FYI we have a couple poster's who enjoy borrowing other people's usernames and posting b.s. The real Donnie is a heck of a lot smarter than the fake one.
Donnie

Mount Vernon, MO

#39763 May 12, 2013
Are all these stupid, ill-mannered, republicans and wantabee repigs in the 1% of the ultra rich or are they just surrogates for the 1%?

"""A mouthpiece for the rich and usually talking out their azz because their mouth knows better."""
So What

Mcloud, OK

#39764 May 12, 2013
Donnie wrote:
Are all these stupid, ill-mannered, republicans and wantabee repigs in the 1% of the ultra rich or are they just surrogates for the 1%?
"""A mouthpiece for the rich and usually talking out their azz because their mouth knows better."""
Who is Sarah Palin
Zane

United States

#39765 May 12, 2013
Like I said earlier fake Donnie isn't very bright.
Zippo

United States

#39766 May 12, 2013
FAKE Donnie wrote:
Are all these stupid, ill-mannered, progressive liberals and socialists wantabee libtards in the 1% of the ultra rich or are they just surrogates for the 1%?
"""A mouthpiece for the rich and usually talking out their azz because their mouth knows better."""
Well you did realize of the wealthiest counties in America, Obama carried 6 out of 7. Guess it explains why 85 billion of freshly printed money is thrown into buying bonds which raises the Dow nicely for those who are investors. I'm sure Warren Buffett appreciates the political payback for his support along with bailing AIG out of potential bankruptcy.
So What

Mcloud, OK

#39767 May 12, 2013
Zippo wrote:
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Well you did realize of the wealthiest counties in America, Obama carried 6 out of 7. Guess it explains why 85 billion of freshly printed money is thrown into buying bonds which raises the Dow nicely for those who are investors. I'm sure Warren Buffett appreciates the political payback for his support along with bailing AIG out of potential bankruptcy.
The wealthy make money when the market goes down also.
tie

Ireland

#39768 May 13, 2013
CitizenTopix wrote:
The Oklahoma Health Care Freedom Amendment is on the November 2, 2010 ballot in the state of Oklahoma as a legislatively-referred constitutional amendment.
The measure is in response to potential federal health care provisions, and would allow residents to get out of any health care mandates. As a result, the proposal, if enacted, would categorize a law that would require residents, employers or health care providers to participate in any health care system unconstitutional.
How will you vote on November 2nd?
I aggres
Zippo

United States

#39769 May 13, 2013
So What wrote:
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The wealthy make money when the market goes down also.
The point being the wealthy have done very well under the management of the current administration. How are middle class and poor? Look to the statistics the poor has grown at a alarming rate. Which the logical reason being that more who were middle class have slipped into the "poor" status.
Justaminute

Oklahoma City, OK

#39770 May 13, 2013
Zippo wrote:
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Well you did realize of the wealthiest counties in America, Obama carried 6 out of 7. Guess it explains why 85 billion of freshly printed money is thrown into buying bonds which raises the Dow nicely for those who are investors. I'm sure Warren Buffett appreciates the political payback for his support along with bailing AIG out of potential bankruptcy.
Gee, those counties are Democratic counties...In case you haven't noticed Zippo, the poorest states are in the South and they are the reddest of red states...like Oklahoma.
DoesntMatter

Cushing, OK

#39771 May 13, 2013
AP News Story about Obamacare:

To try to keep premiums low, some states are allowing insurers to charge patients a hefty share of the cost for expensive medications used to treat cancer, multiple sclerosis, rheumatoid arthritis and other life-altering chronic diseases.

Such “specialty drugs” can cost thousands of dollars a month, and in California, patients would pay up to 30 percent of the cost. For one widely used cancer drug, Gleevec, the patient could pay more than $2,000 for a month’s supply, says the Leukemia & Lymphoma Society.

A spokesman for Covered California said state officials are trying to balance between two conflicting priorities: comprehensive coverage and affordable premiums.

“We are trying to keep the insurance affordable across the board,” said Dana Howard, the group’s spokesman.“This is just part of trying to manage the overall risk of the pool

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_HEA...

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