OK Health Care Freedom Amendment, Sta...

OK Health Care Freedom Amendment, State Question 756

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Packing Heat

Vinita, OK

#37973 Apr 5, 2013
The federal government is ready to hire thousands of community activists, health care providers, union workers and Obama supporters to serve as Obamacare “navigators.” I guess they figure that with a new system mapped out like this people will definitely need some help getting screwed into this giant Chinese financed cluster-fuck. But still, why are community organizers and union workers getting preferential treatment for these jobs that pay between $20 and $48 per hour? Because it is time for Obama to repay his supporters with taxpayer money! That’s why!

Tens of thousands of health care professionals, union workers, community activists and liberal hacks in general will be hired as “navigators” to help Americans choose Obamacare options starting Oct. 1st and will be paid up to $48 an hour, more than six times the federal minimum wage of $7.25, according to new regulations issued Wednesday. The 63-page rule-covering navigators, drawn up by the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, also said the government would provide free translators for those not fluent in English no matter what their native language is. We should have around 15 million illegal aliens that will need this service as soon as Obama gives them amnesty.

In California alone they want hire over 20,000 of these navigational workers, and Planned Parenthood and ACORN workers will be eligible. I guess that’s what they had in mind when they mentioned health care professionals. Plain and Simple, Barry and his minions are nothing more than syphilitic sewer rats waiting to be fed. And the federal government doesn’t even require a GED or high school diploma to work for them anymore. Money laundering to pacify special interest activists disguised as bureaucratic paper pushers who will DISCRIMINATE against others. The rules allow navigators to come from the ranks of unions, health providers and community action groups such as ACORN and Planned Parenthood and any other Obama supporter he may choose.

Read the rules here:
http://www.ofr.gov/OFRUpload/OFRData/2013-079...
Maddy

United States

#37974 Apr 5, 2013
FAKE Maddy wrote:
WASHINGTON (AP)- U.S. employers added just 88,000 jobs in March, the fewest in nine months and a sharp retreat after a period of strong hiring. The slowdown may signal that the economy is heading into a weak spring.
The Labor Department said Friday that the unemployment rate dipped to 7.6 percent, the lowest in four years, from 7.7 percent. But the rate fell only because more people stopped looking for work. People who are out of work are no longer counted as unemployed once they stop looking for a job.
The percentage of Americans working or looking for jobs fell to 63.3 percent in March, the lowest such figure in nearly 34 years.
--WELL, NOW YOU KNOW WHY OKLAHOMA HAS A LOW UNEMPLOYED RATE.--
--NO JOBS SO PEOPLE EITHER QUIT LOOKING AND ARE NOT COUNTED OR MOVE TO A BLUE STATE WHERE THERE IS A DECENT WAGE AND ARE NOT COUNTED IN OKLAHOMA.--
I'd say your CAPS post is hard to believe since the last big lotto winner is from New Jersey and he said as soon as he pays his back child support he is moving the heck out of that state.
Packing Heat

Vinita, OK

#37976 Apr 5, 2013
TAMARA wrote:
<quoted text>Good point. But what they have changed is the health insurance company cannot refuse to insure you. But I donot remember that Obamacare guaranteed a person being treated for their health problem.


You’re correct in that everyone will be insurable but... Obamacare just like Medicare or Medicaid will not pay for every procedure you may need or what. That is what the 15 member Death Panel is for, to decide who gets what. Remember Obama said some of us will only get a pill.

That’s just one aspect of it. I am also led to believe yet I am waiting to prove it positively confirm the days of large tax returns are over for the poor and middle-class to pay towards their subsidies. Right now premiums are scheduled to be doubled instead of cut in half as Obama promised if we passed the bill but...hell, he promised he would veto any bill that added 1 dime to our deficit too. Right now they can prove it will add $6.2 Trillion Dollars to the deficit and climbing everyday. It’s time to repeal it and replace it with something everyone can afford.
MistyGirl

United States

#37977 Apr 5, 2013
TAMARA wrote:
<quoted text>Oh by the way I am sending the info I get like the web Packingheat put on and the Washington Post to everyone I know be email and on Facebook. That way they can't say "well I didn't know" and still keep quiet. I donot care what age bracket they are in they are getting the info.
Morning everyone! I was brushing up on this thread and I have to say I'm so very pleased people are starting to really understand what Packing Heat and myself have been trying to warn everyone for over two years. These changes that the Obama Administration have made will not hurt the so-called wealthy 1% and they won't even hurt those who aren't in the upper 1%, those like myself and Packing Heat who are able to purchase private platinum/Gold insurances policies for our families healthcare. Yes they cost more than they used to cost us but the point is we can still afford to buy them. Our families will be taken care of even though ObamaCare is going to hurt millions and millions of Americans. I know Tamara will remember long discussions she would have with Dusty, WMCOL and they would tell her nothing was going to change in Medicare or Medicaid that those who were enrolled would still receive the same level of care they always received. Packing Heat and myself would say that was patently false because both of us had enough experience in business to realize quickly that the bill of goods Obama was selling couldn't possibly be true. The numbers didn't add up. I had many disagreements with those of the liberal persuasion concerning this fact. As of yesterday's Washington Post article, those liberal "hacks" and Obama supporters can no longer continue to make the claim that our senior citizens will receive what they "earned" through years of building this nation through taxes paid and hard honest work. Seniors paid into the system and they should receive their social security without the constant worry benefits will be reduced or additional taxes taken out.

To me the American Public has been lied to in a most egregious manner. Not Obama, or any other politician or political party has the right to lie and deceive the American Public. This ObamaCare debacle is a public trust issue.

To Packing Heat, Maddy, Stephen, JAG, Bluebird,Jangles and of course Donnie, Jesse and the poetically talented Zane, keep up the battle for the truth. Liberal progressives are willing to tell the public again to stay in power, they have no shame.
Zane

United States

#37979 Apr 5, 2013
yep. Keep her lying azz either busy with the phone or explaining to her husband what she's really been up too all day and night. :-)
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#37980 Apr 5, 2013
MistyGirl wrote:
<quoted text>
Morning everyone! I was brushing up on this thread and I have to say I'm so very pleased people are starting to really understand what Packing Heat and myself have been trying to warn everyone for over two years. These changes that the Obama Administration have made will not hurt the so-called wealthy 1% and they won't even hurt those who aren't in the upper 1%, those like myself and Packing Heat who are able to purchase private platinum/Gold insurances policies for our families healthcare. Yes they cost more than they used to cost us but the point is we can still afford to buy them. Our families will be taken care of even though ObamaCare is going to hurt millions and millions of Americans. I know Tamara will remember long discussions she would have with Dusty, WMCOL and they would tell her nothing was going to change in Medicare or Medicaid that those who were enrolled would still receive the same level of care they always received. Packing Heat and myself would say that was patently false because both of us had enough experience in business to realize quickly that the bill of goods Obama was selling couldn't possibly be true. The numbers didn't add up. I had many disagreements with those of the liberal persuasion concerning this fact. As of yesterday's Washington Post article, those liberal "hacks" and Obama supporters can no longer continue to make the claim that our senior citizens will receive what they "earned" through years of building this nation through taxes paid and hard honest work. Seniors paid into the system and they should receive their social security without the constant worry benefits will be reduced or additional taxes taken out.
To me the American Public has been lied to in a most egregious manner. Not Obama, or any other politician or political party has the right to lie and deceive the American Public. This ObamaCare debacle is a public trust issue.
To Packing Heat, Maddy, Stephen, JAG, Bluebird,Jangles and of course Donnie, Jesse and the poetically talented Zane, keep up the battle for the truth. Liberal progressives are willing to tell the public again to stay in power, they have no shame.
It never ever made sense to me if you take large amounts of money away from the program thatit would actually make that program stronger and better like Justi, Dear Old RedSonja2000, Dusty and WMCOL would say. I may not have the education of others on here but common sense would tell a person that it would only weaken a program. Just like education has had fund taken away and look where it is now. I guess some people think some of us are dumb, blind and deaf and I know Justi thinks that this should be for anyone over 60.
MistyGirl

United States

#37981 Apr 5, 2013
TAMARA wrote:
<quoted text>It never ever made sense to me if you take large amounts of money away from the program thatit would actually make that program stronger and better like Justi, Dear Old RedSonja2000, Dusty and WMCOL would say. I may not have the education of others on here but common sense would tell a person that it would only weaken a program. Just like education has had fund taken away and look where it is now. I guess some people think some of us are dumb, blind and deaf and I know Justi thinks that this should be for anyone over 60.
Exactly. They are treating the American Citizen like we are stupid sheep. You knew instinctively that was not going to work. I remember days and days with you asking questions and arguing that you didn't understand how it would work. You were right and they were "sheep" and chose to believe the bill of goods Obama was selling. I think justaminute is a "hack" or paid operative. No normal mentally healthy person would continue some of the shenanigans she has been guilty of without a strong motivation like "money". I think it's her job but she got by with so much prior to the election, she thought no one would blow her cover, she was wrong also.
MistyGirl

United States

#37982 Apr 5, 2013
Tamara, another thing that is sad about our educational system is that 34 or 35 Georgia administrators, superintendents, principals and teachers have been indicted in a corruption cheating scandal. They were involved in a conspiracy so they could receive "bonus" money through programs that were used as merit incentives for standardized tests. They wanted the money but didn't want to do the job of teaching the kids the necessary skills to achieve it. The real losers are the kids. They had parents talking about how angry they were when their children applied to colleges and tested in reading at the 5th grade level...that was from a student who had previously been a honor student in this Georgia school. Unbelievable how low our standards in this country have sunk.

According to the reports I read these "educators" will have earned themselves some prison time.
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#37983 Apr 5, 2013
MistyGirl wrote:
<quoted text>
Exactly. They are treating the American Citizen like we are stupid sheep. You knew instinctively that was not going to work. I remember days and days with you asking questions and arguing that you didn't understand how it would work. You were right and they were "sheep" and chose to believe the bill of goods Obama was selling. I think justaminute is a "hack" or paid operative. No normal mentally healthy person would continue some of the shenanigans she has been guilty of without a strong motivation like "money". I think it's her job but she got by with so much prior to the election, she thought no one would blow her cover, she was wrong also.
I actually think Justi is brain washed and having the Iranian influence in her life is a big factor. Paid operative I really donot think she could pull that off.
Packing Heat

Vinita, OK

#37984 Apr 5, 2013
Will Liberals ever get the Irony?

Charlie Brown and Lucy

Lucy: I am pro-choice

Charlie Brown: Can I choose to smoke?
Lucy: No, it's not good for you.

Charlie Brown: Can I choose a large soda?
Lucy: No, it's not good for you.

Charlie Brown: Can I choose to own a gun?
Lucy: No, it's not safe for the kids.

Charlie Brown: Can I choose an incandescent bulb?
Lucy: No, it's not good for the planet.

Charlie Brown: Can I choose low-cost coal?
Lucy: No, it's not good for the planet.

Charlie Brown: Can I choose to honor God?
Lucy: No, that's offensive.

Charlie Brown: So what can I choose?
Lucy: An Abortion.

LIBTARDS!

Lucy: Republicans are racist, sexist, homophobic, gun-toting religious fanatics.

Charlie Brown: But you support the Muslims, who are racist, sexist, homophobic,
gun-toting religious fanatics.

Lucy: That's their culture, you have no right to judge them.
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#37985 Apr 5, 2013
MistyGirl wrote:
Tamara, another thing that is sad about our educational system is that 34 or 35 Georgia administrators, superintendents, principals and teachers have been indicted in a corruption cheating scandal. They were involved in a conspiracy so they could receive "bonus" money through programs that were used as merit incentives for standardized tests. They wanted the money but didn't want to do the job of teaching the kids the necessary skills to achieve it. The real losers are the kids. They had parents talking about how angry they were when their children applied to colleges and tested in reading at the 5th grade level...that was from a student who had previously been a honor student in this Georgia school. Unbelievable how low our standards in this country have sunk.
According to the reports I read these "educators" will have earned themselves some prison time.
I think people would be shocked about how much of this is going on and has been for years. It is going on right here in Oklahoma. Actually it was going on back when my 3 sons were going to school which they graduated 64, 65, 68. Caught it going on with the school system not hiring a special education teacher. They told me they got a years grace in not having to have one. Wrong! They got turned in and in 2 weeks that system had a special ed teacher. But it is also the responsiblity of parents to also keep up with what is going on in the schools.
Packing Heat

Vinita, OK

#37986 Apr 5, 2013
MistyGirl wrote:
<quoted text>
Exactly. They are treating the American Citizen like we are stupid sheep. You knew instinctively that was not going to work. I remember days and days with you asking questions and arguing that you didn't understand how it would work. You were right and they were "sheep" and chose to believe the bill of goods Obama was selling. I think justaminute is a "hack" or paid operative. No normal mentally healthy person would continue some of the shenanigans she has been guilty of without a strong motivation like "money". I think it's her job but she got by with so much prior to the election, she thought no one would blow her cover, she was wrong also.


America is drowning in DEBT and we don't have the time to waste trying to respond or defend our ideas against their stupid lies and ignorance. Let them say what they want and show their own ignorance. We don't have to show ours by responding to ignorant posts!

Spend your time making new posts that will counter their lies and ignore responding. Make posts that expose their agenda to take America down the tube. The more money they are allowed to spend and waste the bigger the hole for us to fall in.

Don't waste anymore time or energy responding to these idiots that defy all logic. It is what they do, distract and divert your attention from the real problem. Time to ignore them and do the right thing, vote against them.
MistyGirl

United States

#37987 Apr 5, 2013
TAMARA wrote:
<quoted text>I actually think Justi is brain washed and having the Iranian influence in her life is a big factor. Paid operative I really donot think she could pull that off.
Paid operative liberal hack meaning she post garbage on social media like here on topix and gets paid to do it. "Jangles" posted he found her using our usernames on other threads and still spouting the liberal mantra. These people will do this to promote a agenda in this case liberal progressive agenda of the Obama Administration. If they can't convince you to believe them, then they bully trying to intimidate to get you to stop asking questions they don't want to answer. I will never forget how mean and cruel she has been to you. There is never any excuse for that kind of behavior.
MistyGirl

United States

#37988 Apr 5, 2013
TAMARA wrote:
<quoted text>I think people would be shocked about how much of this is going on and has been for years. It is going on right here in Oklahoma. Actually it was going on back when my 3 sons were going to school which they graduated 64, 65, 68. Caught it going on with the school system not hiring a special education teacher. They told me they got a years grace in not having to have one. Wrong! They got turned in and in 2 weeks that system had a special ed teacher. But it is also the responsiblity of parents to also keep up with what is going on in the schools.
Right you are!
MistyGirl

United States

#37989 Apr 5, 2013
Packing Heat wrote:
<quoted text>
America is drowning in DEBT and we don't have the time to waste trying to respond or defend our ideas against their stupid lies and ignorance. Let them say what they want and show their own ignorance. We don't have to show ours by responding to ignorant posts!
Spend your time making new posts that will counter their lies and ignore responding. Make posts that expose their agenda to take America down the tube. The more money they are allowed to spend and waste the bigger the hole for us to fall in.
Don't waste anymore time or energy responding to these idiots that defy all logic. It is what they do, distract and divert your attention from the real problem. Time to ignore them and do the right thing, vote against them.
Agreed. Besides Zane has discovered something which is working :)

You guys have a wonderful day!
Stephen

United States

#37990 Apr 5, 2013
FBI STRANDED AS MEXICAN CARTELS INCREASE NETWORKS
IN US:

Special agents of the FBI have been left stranded without fuel as a result of politically motivated sequester cuts. FBI is worried they cannot do their job.

"We are meeting at Starbucks in the morning and carpooling in a private car. Once at the office we are not allowed to use our government vehicles to perform our duties. I am concerned about the integrity of our mission. What happens if a terrorist attack or other emergency occurs when we do not have gas in our vehicles and aren't allowed to use them? If we need to used our personal vehicles for surveillance or necessary interviews with sources, bad guys can easily find us or who we are and where our families live."

Complete Article:
www.breitbart.com
Brandon Darby
4/5/2013 10:49 AM PDT

Why don't we fund our FBI instead of giving mega millions to the Muslim Brotherhood of Egypt or the Palestinians who support Hamas?
Jangles

United States

#37991 Apr 5, 2013
Can you say MEMO, "make cuts that will be the most painful for the American Public".

Definition of an impeachable offense is knowingly with willful intent to "cause harm" to the American People. Sounds to me the memo we already have in our possession is proof this president and administration has a progressive liberal agenda and to complete that agenda everything else is acceptable collateral damage.

Time for citizens to contact their congressional representatives and let them know this is our country and the people in Congress work for us not the other way around.
Donnie

United States

#37993 Apr 5, 2013
Packing Heat wrote:
Will Liberals ever get the Irony?
Charlie Brown and Lucy
Lucy: I am pro-choice
Charlie Brown: Can I choose to smoke?
Lucy: No, it's not good for you.
Charlie Brown: Can I choose a large soda?
Lucy: No, it's not good for you.
Charlie Brown: Can I choose to own a gun?
Lucy: No, it's not safe for the kids.
Charlie Brown: Can I choose an incandescent bulb?
Lucy: No, it's not good for the planet.
Charlie Brown: Can I choose low-cost coal?
Lucy: No, it's not good for the planet.
Charlie Brown: Can I choose to honor God?
Lucy: No, that's offensive.
Charlie Brown: So what can I choose?
Lucy: An Abortion.
LIBTARDS!
Lucy: Republicans are racist, sexist, homophobic, gun-toting religious fanatics.
Charlie Brown: But you support the Muslims, who are racist, sexist, homophobic,
gun-toting religious fanatics.
Lucy: That's their culture, you have no right to judge them.
Yep. That's it in a nutshell.
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#37994 Apr 5, 2013
MistyGirl wrote:
<quoted text>
Paid operative liberal hack meaning she post garbage on social media like here on topix and gets paid to do it. "Jangles" posted he found her using our usernames on other threads and still spouting the liberal mantra. These people will do this to promote a agenda in this case liberal progressive agenda of the Obama Administration. If they can't convince you to believe them, then they bully trying to intimidate to get you to stop asking questions they don't want to answer. I will never forget how mean and cruel she has been to you. There is never any excuse for that kind of behavior.
I know what Justi has said to me on hear. I just don't think she could be that smart and bright to and write those post. She doesnot have the gift of imagination of some the posting that was done. That is all I am saying.
Packing Heat

Vinita, OK

#37995 Apr 5, 2013
TAMARA wrote:
<quoted text>I know what Justi has said to me on hear. I just don't think she could be that smart and bright to and write those post. She doesnot have the gift of imagination of some the posting that was done. That is all I am saying.


You’re right, Justaminute is not that creative to write those post she put up. 99.9% was copy and paste jobs. That is what progressive liberal hacks do, copy and paste the daily progressive liberal hack talking points everyday, everywhere they can in order to get paid by a George Soro’s or someone that wants it done. Also same for the assclown that is posting all the joke nonsense in order to obstruct any meaningful conversation that exposes the progressive liberal hacks agenda. Any of you that still lack understanding of how these low-life douche bags operate, read the short book call “Rules for Radicals” By Saul Alinsky. He is Barack Obama’s number #1 Mentor and Idol, both were hacks.

On tactics
The tactics he proposed are based metaphorically on the eyes, ears, and nose of the opponent. If you have organized a vast, mass-based people's organization, you can parade it visibly before the enemy and openly show your power. If your organization is smaller in numbers, then appeal to the "ears": conceal the members in the dark but raise a din and clamor that will make the listener believe that your organization numbers many more than it does. Lastly, if your organization is too tiny even for noise, stink up the place.

The rules
RULE 1:“Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have.” Power is derived from two main sources – money and people; therefore,“Have-Nots” must build power from flesh and blood.
RULE 2:“Never go outside the expertise of your people.” This results in confusion, fear and retreat. Feeling secure adds to the backbone of anyone.
RULE 3:“Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy.” Look for ways to increase insecurity, anxiety and uncertainty.
RULE 4:“Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.” If the rule is that every letter gets a reply, send 30,000 letters. You can kill them with this because no one can possibly obey all of their own rules.
RULE 5:“Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.” There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions.
RULE 6:“A good tactic is one your people enjoy.” They’ll keep doing it without urging and come back to do more. They’re doing their thing, and will even suggest better ones.
RULE 7:“A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag.” Don’t become old news.
RULE 8:“Keep the pressure on. Never let up.” Keep trying new things to keep the opposition off balance. As the opposition masters one approach, hit them from the flank with something new.
RULE 9:“The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.” Imagination and ego can dream up many more consequences than any activist.
RULE 10: "The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition." It is the unceasing pressure that will result in the reaction of the opposition that is essential for the success of the campaign.
RULE 11:“If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive.” Violence from the other side can win the public to your side because the public sympathizes with the underdog.
RULE 12:“The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative.” Never let the enemy score points because you’re caught without a solution to the problem.
RULE 13:“Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.” Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions.

http://www.amazon.com/Rules-Radicals-Saul-Ali...

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