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Justaminute wrote:
Dont' worry about it Jesse, I found out about the pipeline jobs...unfortunately Okies have to compete with the rest of the pipeline states for jobs plus Canadians. Here's the rundown:
A report by the Cornell University Global Labor Institute stated that the pipeline "will create no more than 2,500-4,650 temporary direct construction jobs for two years, according to TransCanada's own data supplied to the State Department." It estimated that "the new permanent US pipeline jobs in the US number as few as 50.
So? That's more jobs for a longer period of time than Obama's Green Energy companies that went belly up produced and billions of dollars aren't wasted of taxpayers money. What the hell is your stupid liberal loon point?
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<quoted text>Honey I know women don't use abortions for birth control. Now maybe you need help with your memory, We were talking about the birth control issue and using abortion for birth control. I have state my opinion when it comes to an abortion for those that truely should have one. Not me with a memory problem!
Did justaliar post "women don't use abortion as birth control"....did she really have the audacity to say WOMEN don't use abortion as birth control?

JUSTALIAR DID BY HER OWN ADMISSION!
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Liberal Loons like Justaminute need to re-examine their misquoting and re-writing of history. The Democrats didn't balance the budget, the GOP did. If it hadn't been for the GOP takeover of the Congress back in 1994 there never would have been a balanced budget. The Congressional GOP forced it down Clinton's throat, after two Government shutdowns, just like they forced welfare reform down his throat.

Speaker John Boehner should offer Reid and Obama a simple deal: cut spending to FY2007 levels and freeze it there and you'll get your ceiling raised. Otherwise, we can default now instead of in a couple of years when we'll owe another $4 to $5 trillion. Of course the Liberal Loons like Justaminute have but one goal. It's Socialism! They don't want to work us out of debt, they want to continue to pile it on until the country collapses!

Ayn Rand is absolutely correct. The looters, moochers, and parasites like Justaminute must be stopped. Welfare and Medicaid, and all other social programs that take from the productive to fund these poor and useless parasites need to end immediately. Socialist funding for these parasites only drags down the rest of society. These parasites should be euthanized at as early of age as they can be identified, so that the able-bodied are not burdened by their feeble and unproductive existence.

Liberals that try to guilt the rest of us into funding their deficient parasitic offspring should similarly be removed from the gene pool by forced sterilization, since their further procreation will result in more defective offspring. Then we can begin to dig ourselves out of this deficit hole in short order if all these socialist welfare / guilt support programs are totally eliminated.
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Packing Heat wrote:
Liberal Loons like Justaminute need to re-examine their misquoting and re-writing of history. The Democrats didn't balance the budget, the GOP did. If it hadn't been for the GOP takeover of the Congress back in 1994 there never would have been a balanced budget. The Congressional GOP forced it down Clinton's throat, after two Government shutdowns, just like they forced welfare reform down his throat.
Speaker John Boehner should offer Reid and Obama a simple deal: cut spending to FY2007 levels and freeze it there and you'll get your ceiling raised. Otherwise, we can default now instead of in a couple of years when we'll owe another $4 to $5 trillion. Of course the Liberal Loons like Justaminute have but one goal. It's Socialism! They don't want to work us out of debt, they want to continue to pile it on until the country collapses!
Ayn Rand is absolutely correct. The looters, moochers, and parasites like Justaminute must be stopped. Welfare and Medicaid, and all other social programs that take from the productive to fund these poor and useless parasites need to end immediately. Socialist funding for these parasites only drags down the rest of society. These parasites should be euthanized at as early of age as they can be identified, so that the able-bodied are not burdened by their feeble and unproductive existence.
Liberals that try to guilt the rest of us into funding their deficient parasitic offspring should similarly be removed from the gene pool by forced sterilization, since their further procreation will result in more defective offspring. Then we can begin to dig ourselves out of this deficit hole in short order if all these socialist welfare / guilt support programs are totally eliminated.
Obama is asking for another 21 billion for infrastructure funding. Obama made his remarks in Miami,Florida in front of a sign saying "Chinese-made Cranes"...lol, Obama's advance staff failed to properly conceal the sign with American Flags which flanked the podium.

Do you want to give this president 21 billion to pick and choose who will be granted government projects? Obama's statements in Miami, Florida says it all. Obama said "Instead of picking projects based on pork barrel spending, we'll pick them based on how good they are for the economy."

Give me a F*&ing break! Obama "picked" all the winning Green Energy companies that went belly up wasting our taxpayers money billions of our taxpayers money. Why in the name of God would we give him another 21 billion in borrowed money to throw away to more of his political buddies. The same guys who paid themselves huge million dollars salaries then went bankrupt.
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Donnie wrote:
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Did justaliar post "women don't use abortion as birth control"....did she really have the audacity to say WOMEN don't use abortion as birth control?
JUSTALIAR DID BY HER OWN ADMISSION!
Actually I think she thought she was pointing out to me that abortions are not just used for birth control. She knew I knew that. She was trying to make it sound like I was stupid and get it away from what we were posting about. She thinks it ok to use abortion as a birth control and I donot. I had asked her how much an abortion would cost one female to how many birth control that cost would buy.
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Donnie wrote:
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Obama is asking for another 21 billion for infrastructure funding. Obama made his remarks in Miami,Florida in front of a sign saying "Chinese-made Cranes"...lol, Obama's advance staff failed to properly conceal the sign with American Flags which flanked the podium.
Do you want to give this president 21 billion to pick and choose who will be granted government projects? Obama's statements in Miami, Florida says it all. Obama said "Instead of picking projects based on pork barrel spending, we'll pick them based on how good they are for the economy."
Give me a F*&ing break! Obama "picked" all the winning Green Energy companies that went belly up wasting our taxpayers money billions of our taxpayers money. Why in the name of God would we give him another 21 billion in borrowed money to throw away to more of his political buddies. The same guys who paid themselves huge million dollars salaries then went bankrupt.
Obama is just "paying" his debt to special interest in the Green Energy sector. That's what liberal progressives do, pay their debts with all the taxpayers money. Can anyone say FREE HEALTHCARE, FREE CELL PHONES, EXPANDED WELFARE WITH LOWER ELIGIBILITY STANDARDS? Kathleen Sebelius, Secretary of Health and Human Services believes that Medicaid recipients should have sex change surgeries covered...Why not everything else is FREE.
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Justaliar said voter fraud was less than people reporting UFO's....

I don't want one person committing voter fraud do you guys?

Anyway, what's hilarious is the most viewed file in the FBI's Electronic Reading Room is the New Mexico memo titled "Flying Saucers". This was reported by the Associated Press on 3-29-2013.

LMFAO....again!
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Donnie wrote:
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Obama is asking for another 21 billion for infrastructure funding. Obama made his remarks in Miami,Florida in front of a sign saying "Chinese-made Cranes"...lol, Obama's advance staff failed to properly conceal the sign with American Flags which flanked the podium.
Do you want to give this president 21 billion to pick and choose who will be granted government projects? Obama's statements in Miami, Florida says it all. Obama said "Instead of picking projects based on pork barrel spending, we'll pick them based on how good they are for the economy."
Give me a F*&ing break! Obama "picked" all the winning Green Energy companies that went belly up wasting our taxpayers money billions of our taxpayers money. Why in the name of God would we give him another 21 billion in borrowed money to throw away to more of his political buddies. The same guys who paid themselves huge million dollars salaries then went bankrupt.


The simple response to Obama’s request for more money is “HELL NO!” He should be sent to Singapore and have his ass beat like his ancestors got for the money he has already wasted especially on any liberal agenda. I would also like to see liberals either euthanized or deported to Gitmo or somewhere right along with all Queers. They are absolutely disgusting useless here and purely parasites on our society.
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TAMARA wrote:
<quoted text>Actually I think she thought she was pointing out to me that abortions are not just used for birth control. She knew I knew that. She was trying to make it sound like I was stupid and get it away from what we were posting about. She thinks it ok to use abortion as a birth control and I donot. I had asked her how much an abortion would cost one female to how many birth control that cost would buy.
Hi Tamara hope your having a good Easter! I think justaliar says she thinks it's ok to kill a baby because you just don't want to deal with it because that gives her an excuse for killing hers. She keeps posting about abortion and gay issues because she is vainly trying to dominate this thread from discussing Obama's failed economic policies. She doesn't want us to have a free exchange of ideas. Remember how crazy she was posting and all her ghost riders for no other reason than to keep people who are honest from talking and learning from each other. We all know we can't believe a thing she posts because she will outright lie if she thinks she can get by with it. If a person was to count all her posts I still think we would be shocked at how many there are compared to everyone else.
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Packing Heat wrote:
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The simple response to Obama’s request for more money is “HELL NO!” He should be sent to Singapore and have his ass beat like his ancestors got for the money he has already wasted especially on any liberal agenda. I would also like to see liberals either euthanized or deported to Gitmo or somewhere right along with all Queers. They are absolutely disgusting useless here and purely parasites on our society.
All this borrowing will come to a complete halt if the world's financial powers deem the dollar is no longer the Reserve Standard Currency. Which is well on it's way to being achieved. Because Congress and this president have no will to correct our financial mess and instead print billions a month to infuse the market with false growth...looks good statistically until you realize that's all new borrowed money and we can't pay our old debt. Media will tell people our maximum debt this year is 17 trillion dollars which is patently untrue. More accurate estimate is 20 trillion but then if you look at long term unfunded and increase interest due to our lower credit standing that debt number balloons to 34.3 trillion in national debt. Scary number!

IMF is moving away from the dollar as it's currency instead opting for SDR's-currencies of members of the IMF and using SDR bonds instead of US bonds. The only reason we have been able to continue to borrow is because the U.S. is the only country which has our currency as the Reserve Currency Standard. We can print our own money which we are doing billions of dollars a month and flooding Wall Street with a "false" sense of well being when it's new borrowed money we're doing it with not actual sustainable growth in the market through capitalism. Fake market results but the wealthy are playing the game and laughing all the way to their individual off shore accounts.

Unfortunately unless Obama and Congress start being responsible stewards of this country with a long term budget which balances our revenue with expenditures we will not only be downgraded again but we will lose status as Reserve Currency in the dollar. If that happens it won't matter who you are or how much money you have in a U.S. bank your life will change dramatically. Remember Cyprus.

Guess where our family's portfolio's investments are? Precious metals and a few select investments which are also a hedge against more generic investments. Don't leave all your money in a US Bank in US dollars the value of your "cash" is getting less every day. If you travel abroad like in India they don't want dollars or US dollar backed credit cards. No they want other foreign currencies because our dollar is losing value. Taj Mahal tourist from America are finding their credit cards back by the dollar and cash dollars aren't wanted. Who would have imagined that would happen to America?
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All this borrowing will come to a complete halt if the world's financial powers deem the dollar is no longer the Reserve Standard Currency. Which is well on it's way to being achieved. Because Congress and this president have no will to correct our financial mess and instead print billions a month to infuse the market with false growth...looks good statistically until you realize that's all new borrowed money and we can't pay our old debt. Media will tell people our maximum debt this year is 17 trillion dollars which is patently untrue. More accurate estimate is 20 trillion but then if you look at long term unfunded and increase interest due to our lower credit standing that debt number balloons to 34.3 trillion in national debt. Scary number!
IMF is moving away from the dollar as it's currency instead opting for SDR's-currencies of members of the IMF and using SDR bonds instead of US bonds. The only reason we have been able to continue to borrow is because the U.S. is the only country which has our currency as the Reserve Currency Standard. We can print our own money which we are doing billions of dollars a month and flooding Wall Street with a "false" sense of well being when it's new borrowed money we're doing it with not actual sustainable growth in the market through capitalism. Fake market results but the wealthy are playing the game and laughing all the way to their individual off shore accounts.
Unfortunately unless Obama and Congress start being responsible stewards of this country with a long term budget which balances our revenue with expenditures we will not only be downgraded again but we will lose status as Reserve Currency in the dollar. If that happens it won't matter who you are or how much money you have in a U.S. bank your life will change dramatically. Remember Cyprus.
Guess where our family's portfolio's investments are? Precious metals and a few select investments which are also a hedge against more generic investments. Don't leave all your money in a US Bank in US dollars the value of your "cash" is getting less every day. If you travel abroad like in India they don't want dollars or US dollar backed credit cards. No they want other foreign currencies because our dollar is losing value. Taj Mahal tourist from America are finding their credit cards back by the dollar and cash dollars aren't wanted. Who would have imagined that would happen to America?
Hello Ms. Misty, would you grant Obama his demand for 21 billion dollars for infrastructure?

Enjoyed reading your post. I haven't heard anyone reporting about the IMF. I didn't understand they could hurt us until today.

Happy Easter btw :-)
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Happy Easter JAG,
I would respectfully and with clear concise precision using proper English and smiling politely into his face reply,

"Your request for an additional 21 billion for infrastructure will be granted.....(then I would hold my hand out to shake his and once he granted me permission by extending his hand in return, I would firmly grasp his hand and look directly into his eyes)...as soon as you iron out a long term balance budget solution for our country".

A politician I am NOT.
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All this borrowing will come to a complete halt if the world's financial powers deem the dollar is no longer the Reserve Standard Currency. Which is well on it's way to being achieved. Because Congress and this president have no will to correct our financial mess and instead print billions a month to infuse the market with false growth...looks good statistically until you realize that's all new borrowed money and we can't pay our old debt. Media will tell people our maximum debt this year is 17 trillion dollars which is patently untrue. More accurate estimate is 20 trillion but then if you look at long term unfunded and increase interest due to our lower credit standing that debt number balloons to 34.3 trillion in national debt. Scary number!
IMF is moving away from the dollar as it's currency instead opting for SDR's-currencies of members of the IMF and using SDR bonds instead of US bonds. The only reason we have been able to continue to borrow is because the U.S. is the only country which has our currency as the Reserve Currency Standard. We can print our own money which we are doing billions of dollars a month and flooding Wall Street with a "false" sense of well being when it's new borrowed money we're doing it with not actual sustainable growth in the market through capitalism. Fake market results but the wealthy are playing the game and laughing all the way to their individual off shore accounts.
Unfortunately unless Obama and Congress start being responsible stewards of this country with a long term budget which balances our revenue with expenditures we will not only be downgraded again but we will lose status as Reserve Currency in the dollar. If that happens it won't matter who you are or how much money you have in a U.S. bank your life will change dramatically. Remember Cyprus.
Guess where our family's portfolio's investments are? Precious metals and a few select investments which are also a hedge against more generic investments. Don't leave all your money in a US Bank in US dollars the value of your "cash" is getting less every day. If you travel abroad like in India they don't want dollars or US dollar backed credit cards. No they want other foreign currencies because our dollar is losing value. Taj Mahal tourist from America are finding their credit cards back by the dollar and cash dollars aren't wanted. Who would have imagined that would happen to America?
What about 401K or IRA accounts? both are held "in trust" by our personal bank.
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@bluebird, wouldn't that fall under FDIC? What about people who receive their social security by direct deposit? All of those accounts are guaranteed by the FDIC.
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Hi Bluebird/Maddy,
Ladies you have to remember the basics of our monetary system in the U.S. is the fact we have the Global Reserve Currency, the dollar, the dollar has been the trade device for products which other countries need. Because we have been so irresponsible in our spending and our national debt has grown at such an alarming rate, no long term budget plan to address this problem yet and the continued practice of this administration to use QE1,QE2, QE3,by the Central Bank of the Fed, our dollar's value is less. Each month we print 85 billion new dollars and flood the market, making stocks rise as seen with Wall Street boom and the dollar decrease in value which you see when you go buy groceries and everything cost more. Stop and think what those same products cost you say 4 or 5 years ago. That's inflation, the increase cost for goods and services. Then you add that to increase cost of regulations on business,higher tax rates (US is the highest Corporate tax rate in the world)more cost per employee. Large Corporations are setting up shop elsewhere this trend has been going on for a while. Less Americans have jobs with very few opportunities. Small business can't pack up and move overseas they go belly up.

If the global monetary powers no longer use the dollar as the Global Reserve Standard, no longer buy our US bonds, our dollar will make a dramatic fall in value. Serious enough that your savings whether they be in a IRA account,401K or other investment account will be worth a fraction of the original value. The banks are only as healthy as the federal government. Anything tied to the Fed,insured by the Fed is at risk.

Remember what happened in Cyprus that scenario is possible here if our monetary system collapses.

It's all about our debt. Instead of addressing it President Obama Friday announced new emission standards on fuel which will cause increase cost of fuel. Fuel increase cost make everything else go up in cost. Then he also suggests 21 billion more in new debt with borrowed money to invest in infrastructure projects which would be doled out by the Administration. How did all the Green Energy investments turn out?

Hope you guys will be encouraged to write,fax and email your congressional representatives. Our time is fast running out!
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MistyGirl wrote:
Happy Easter JAG,
I would respectfully and with clear concise precision using proper English and smiling politely into his face reply,
"Your request for an additional 21 billion for infrastructure will be granted.....(then I would hold my hand out to shake his and once he granted me permission by extending his hand in return, I would firmly grasp his hand and look directly into his eyes)...as soon as you iron out a long term balance budget solution for our country".
A politician I am NOT.
Your not a politician or political hack because your not a liar!
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Maddy wrote:
@bluebird, wouldn't that fall under FDIC? What about people who receive their social security by direct deposit? All of those accounts are guaranteed by the FDIC.
I know people who really depend on Social Security or have someone on SSI if the dollar isn't used as the global standard anymore and it make our monetary system fall...that means our government won't be able to issue social security or SSI payments. Everything is tie to the federal government. FDIC is fed, everything is Fed.

Work all your damn life and pay taxes into the Washington 'ruling class' and we are jacked around every way we turn.
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NEWS FLASH FROM FAUX NEWS!!!!!!!!!

To all Christians:

Jesus was born on Christmas Day.

Executed on Good Friday.

Zombie Jesus arose on Easter Day, 2013, and some Bat Sh!t Crazy Okie Gun Nut shot him in the head multiply time with a AR-15.

So much for your God!!!!!!!!!!
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That would make all federal programs at risk they couldn't borrow any more money because the world would refuse to buy our bonds. Ok I think I'm starting to understand it better. If you receive any assistance from the federal government doesn't matter which program if the fed has no more money because no more countries will buy our debt then every thing will stop. Banks, mass transit will all stop no more funding by Uncle Sam. Remember how the I.R.S. said they would be late on refunds this year? Damn it all make sense. Those states which are bankrupt like California at least according to the state's auditor, won't be able to get a bail out from the feds, can't borrow because the banks follow federal guidelines. All those people in California who retired will find their monthly check was never received from pensions to their banks accounts. Sorry, California has no money and can't borrow any and the fed is broke to.

Our country really is being turned into a third world country.
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MistyGirl wrote:
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All this borrowing will come to a complete halt if the world's financial powers deem the dollar is no longer the Reserve Standard Currency. Which is well on it's way to being achieved. Because Congress and this president have no will to correct our financial mess and instead print billions a month to infuse the market with false growth...looks good statistically until you realize that's all new borrowed money and we can't pay our old debt. Media will tell people our maximum debt this year is 17 trillion dollars which is patently untrue. More accurate estimate is 20 trillion but then if you look at long term unfunded and increase interest due to our lower credit standing that debt number balloons to 34.3 trillion in national debt. Scary number!
IMF is moving away from the dollar as it's currency instead opting for SDR's-currencies of members of the IMF and using SDR bonds instead of US bonds. The only reason we have been able to continue to borrow is because the U.S. is the only country which has our currency as the Reserve Currency Standard. We can print our own money which we are doing billions of dollars a month and flooding Wall Street with a "false" sense of well being when it's new borrowed money we're doing it with not actual sustainable growth in the market through capitalism. Fake market results but the wealthy are playing the game and laughing all the way to their individual off shore accounts.
Unfortunately unless Obama and Congress start being responsible stewards of this country with a long term budget which balances our revenue with expenditures we will not only be downgraded again but we will lose status as Reserve Currency in the dollar. If that happens it won't matter who you are or how much money you have in a U.S. bank your life will change dramatically. Remember Cyprus.
Guess where our family's portfolio's investments are? Precious metals and a few select investments which are also a hedge against more generic investments. Don't leave all your money in a US Bank in US dollars the value of your "cash" is getting less every day. If you travel abroad like in India they don't want dollars or US dollar backed credit cards. No they want other foreign currencies because our dollar is losing value. Taj Mahal tourist from America are finding their credit cards back by the dollar and cash dollars aren't wanted. Who would have imagined that would happen to America?


I agree with what you say but...as I told you sometime back, I am heavily invested in gold and have been since early 1990’s when it was cheap to buy. So although I would feel it some what, it doesn’t worry me like it does many as it should. I am absolutely debt free and have been. The new house I built back in T-town, I built with cash money, gave it to my oldest daughter. I pay cash for everything I purchase with the exception of the few checks I have to issue. As for banks, don’t need them and don’t use them beyond an account that I fund checks I have to issue and keep a balance in it to keep it free. In that case, it is all figured where deposit equals outgoing. Otherwise, Banks are useless to me. Now as to your concern of Obama’s ability to train wreck us to achieve his agenda...it’s safe to say he has done a damn good job to put us there now and China is cheering him on. China has been and still is actively taking steps to phase out the US Dollar.
I think you will enjoy this here:

Devaluing to Prosperity: Misaligned Currencies and Their Growth Consequences
by Surjit S. Bhalla
http://www.iie.com/bhalla.cfm

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