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OK Health Care Freedom Amendment, State Question 756

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Maybe she was counting all 57 States Obama campaigned in, 7 of which there is no record of the population of outside of the circle of race baiters? In fact all information about those 7 States, the names, the locations and populations were hidden with Obama’s Birth Certificate and School Records as well as his Past.
LOL, the woman and her husband should be brought up on charges but since they are connected her directing "business and bail outs to her husband's interest" will be ignored because she belongs to the "circle" of friends of the one in power.
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I actually think the problem with anthing getting done in Washington D.C. is like when Bush was President and the Republican was head of the government they shut the Democrats out. Then The Democrats got controland to show the Republicans a thing or two so They shut The Democrats. When Obama took office and Democrats had control they really did shut the Republican out. The Democrat went behind close doors with the Healthcare deal. I watched one of the supposely open meetings that was on TV about healthcare bill. They all were sitting at a large table with Obama in the center and Reid and Pelosi sitting on Obama's right and Republicans all on the left. I remember Colburn and McCain setting close to Obama on the left. McCain said something in putting his imput in and Obama said to McCain the election is over and the he (Obama) won and Republicans lost now move on. Right then and there I thought the fight between Democrats and Republican is on. And guess what neither side is going to give the other side an inch. So what has these done to day nothing but argue that has gotten this nation nowhere and left town for a long weekend. Today is March 1st 2013. Well I hope their long weekend Stinks!
The republicans have given in to increase in taxes which has alienated the conservatives of their party. Ask anyone who gets a paycheck if a lot more isn't being taken out of their paycheck for taxes! So it's time for the democrats to give a little and get this spending habits of theirs curbed then maybe we can work on the gianormous almost 17 trillion in debt.
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The republicans have given in to increase in taxes which has alienated the conservatives of their party. Ask anyone who gets a paycheck if a lot more isn't being taken out of their paycheck for taxes! So it's time for the democrats to give a little and get this spending habits of theirs curbed then maybe we can work on the gianormous almost 17 trillion in debt.
What increase of taxes are you talking about? I donot feel that the Social Security tax for employees going from 4.2 percent going back to what it was for years 6.2% is a tax increase. It should had never been changed or messed with in the first place. So what tax increases are you talking about? Oh Obama messed with the Social Security tax change anyways.
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<quoted text>What increase of taxes are you talking about? I donot feel that the Social Security tax for employees going from 4.2 percent going back to what it was for years 6.2% is a tax increase. It should had never been changed or messed with in the first place. So what tax increases are you talking about? Oh Obama messed with the Social Security tax change anyways.
Small business is barely holding on with the increase regulations from the Obama administration and insurances have increased substantially because of ObamaCare. The repubs said they wouldn't support any increase in taxes of any kind because of this but they went back on their word. The conservative side of the GOP is furious and the repub's will pay a price for alienating them. That's another thing depending on which state you live in many people have seen tax increases because less people are working and many have lost their homes to foreclosure so the state and local governments are trying to fill in the gaps of lost revenue!

Whether you feel it's a tax increase or not the fact remains that 6.2% is higher than 4.2% and if it's coming out of your check along with the increase cost of living... well it matters!
Donnie

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Besides all americans saw a drop in their incomes of a huge 3.6% in January so God only knows what the February and March will end up in loss of income.

It's time for Washington's spending party to come to an end!
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Yep, yesterday one of the staffers was complaining that the private luxury jet would no longer be available to "fly" home on the weekends until additional funding could be found.

Private luxury jet? Go buy your ticket and fly commercial like the rest of america does! No wonder Washington is disconnected with the rest of America because they live like royalty.
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Small business is barely holding on with the increase regulations from the Obama administration and insurances have increased substantially because of ObamaCare. The repubs said they wouldn't support any increase in taxes of any kind because of this but they went back on their word. The conservative side of the GOP is furious and the repub's will pay a price for alienating them. That's another thing depending on which state you live in many people have seen tax increases because less people are working and many have lost their homes to foreclosure so the state and local governments are trying to fill in the gaps of lost revenue!
Whether you feel it's a tax increase or not the fact remains that 6.2% is higher than 4.2% and if it's coming out of your check along with the increase cost of living... well it matters!
Yep I agree 6.2% is higher than 4.2%. But my point it had always been for years 6.2% untill Obama lowered it. Then that tax break expired. It was not suppose to be a forever tax break. But Obama should have never changed it in the first place. But since he did what program was the first to be threaten by Obama when it had to do with money and the budget for this country? I will tell you Social Security each and everytime. Never was Obama's salary threaten or the people in the House or Congress! As far as the healthcare bill you get fined if you do not carry it. It will be added to your earned income as earned income. So who's fault is this. Obama! It was a given healthcare cost was going to go up but most people turned a blind eye to that. Still today alot of people think this healthcare program is a freeby and to alot it will be. I myself actually donot know one person that has been for this healthcare program these people are from both parties. Now you can thank the healthcare program to 2 other people who played a major role with Obama in getting it passed. Nancy Pelosi which thinks as it as her bill and Harry Reid. This last escaped that went into affect today was an attempt to bully the Republicans and the House to give inot all of the Democrat demands. The only one thing I do agree with is the rich donot pay their fair share of taxes and I do think that needs to be addressed. I am not saying that they should be over taxed. The government should be working on getting unnecesary funding to unnecesary programs. I am seeing actually fault of both parties that has put this country in jeopardy big time.
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WOW, Obama is really serious about working on this sequestration problem....

It's reported that President Obama has met with the republicans to negotiate and iron out an agreement on sequestration just prior to the deadline...

Now the rest of the story. Know how long Pres. Obama met with the republicans? Know how much serious work he put in to avert sequestration?

Answer: 7 minutes!

*A. Bigelow
Breitbart.com

What I see is a nice long weekend and another vacation or golf lesson in President Obama's schedule. With the hard work this president puts in on behalf of the American People we can't expect anymore from him.
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TAMARA wrote:
<quoted text>Yep I agree 6.2% is higher than 4.2%. But my point it had always been for years 6.2% untill Obama lowered it. Then that tax break expired. It was not suppose to be a forever tax break. But Obama should have never changed it in the first place. But since he did what program was the first to be threaten by Obama when it had to do with money and the budget for this country? I will tell you Social Security each and everytime. Never was Obama's salary threaten or the people in the House or Congress! As far as the healthcare bill you get fined if you do not carry it. It will be added to your earned income as earned income. So who's fault is this. Obama! It was a given healthcare cost was going to go up but most people turned a blind eye to that. Still today alot of people think this healthcare program is a freeby and to alot it will be. I myself actually donot know one person that has been for this healthcare program these people are from both parties. Now you can thank the healthcare program to 2 other people who played a major role with Obama in getting it passed. Nancy Pelosi which thinks as it as her bill and Harry Reid. This last escaped that went into affect today was an attempt to bully the Republicans and the House to give inot all of the Democrat demands. The only one thing I do agree with is the rich donot pay their fair share of taxes and I do think that needs to be addressed. I am not saying that they should be over taxed. The government should be working on getting unnecesary funding to unnecesary programs. I am seeing actually fault of both parties that has put this country in jeopardy big time.
I thought those tax breaks were Bush's fault?
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TAMARA wrote:
<quoted text>Yep I agree 6.2% is higher than 4.2%. But my point it had always been for years 6.2% untill Obama lowered it. Then that tax break expired. It was not suppose to be a forever tax break. But Obama should have never changed it in the first place. But since he did what program was the first to be threaten by Obama when it had to do with money and the budget for this country? I will tell you Social Security each and everytime. Never was Obama's salary threaten or the people in the House or Congress! As far as the healthcare bill you get fined if you do not carry it. It will be added to your earned income as earned income. So who's fault is this. Obama! It was a given healthcare cost was going to go up but most people turned a blind eye to that. Still today alot of people think this healthcare program is a freeby and to alot it will be. I myself actually donot know one person that has been for this healthcare program these people are from both parties. Now you can thank the healthcare program to 2 other people who played a major role with Obama in getting it passed. Nancy Pelosi which thinks as it as her bill and Harry Reid. This last escaped that went into affect today was an attempt to bully the Republicans and the House to give inot all of the Democrat demands. The only one thing I do agree with is the rich donot pay their fair share of taxes and I do think that needs to be addressed. I am not saying that they should be over taxed. The government should be working on getting unnecesary funding to unnecesary programs. I am seeing actually fault of both parties that has put this country in jeopardy big time.
All I'm saying is for those who still have a job our bring home pay is being nailed by taxes and under ObamaCare whatever company insurance I have will be taxed as income received which SUCKS big time. Then with the increase cost of living even though our government tells us we don't have a inflation problem anyone who buys groceries or pays utilities or buy gas to drive to work knows our cost of living has dramatically gone up. Then the tallies show that Americans all lost 3.6% income in January and in about 25 to 30 days we'll find out how much additional loss in income we had in February. This is INSANE!

For Obama to go out and blame this sequestration on repubs is just a big fat lie since this is his and his white house's idea. Then he's been on every channel (and I have cable)telling us it's the repubs fault when in truth, he only spent 7 whole minutes on Thursday's meeting with the repubs. If I spent only 7 minutes on my job I'd be given a pink slip.

I believe social security is sacred and shouldn't be touched if a person paid into the system they shouldn't constantly have the dinky little amount they get every month threatened. The problem with social security is people who never paid one cent into the system have been milking it for decades. If my parents had lived to be 100 yrs old they would have never come close to receiving what they paid into the system and God willing I will be the same!
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How much will your taxes change?”For millions of wage earners, the most immediate effect would be the lapse of a two-percentage-point payroll-tax cut that was part of a deal President Barack Obama struck with Republicans late in 2010. It lowered to 4.2% from 6.2% the employee portion of the Social Security tax, allowing workers to keep more take-home pay. For an individual earning the maximum 2013 cap of $113,700 or more, the increase would be nearly $200 per month. Overall, the expiration of this stimulus would cost working Americans $125 billion a year.” Laura Saunders in The Wall Street Journal.
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<quoted text>How much will your taxes change?”For millions of wage earners, the most immediate effect would be the lapse of a two-percentage-point payroll-tax cut that was part of a deal President Barack Obama struck with Republicans late in 2010. It lowered to 4.2% from 6.2% the employee portion of the Social Security tax, allowing workers to keep more take-home pay. For an individual earning the maximum 2013 cap of $113,700 or more, the increase would be nearly $200 per month. Overall, the expiration of this stimulus would cost working Americans $125 billion a year.” Laura Saunders in The Wall Street Journal.
Both my wife and I work so our increase in taxes is double. I'm not quite sure how our insurance benefits (if we get to keep them)provided by our employers will increase our taxes. No one really knows since tax law is constantly changing and with this administration they don't even know exactly what they plan on doing or it seems that way to me. I would hate to try and run a business and not have a clue what the tax law would require. I mean how in the world can you plan what you need to do to keep your business running in the black?

I'm beginning to think those who want a flat tax rate are right and it would be the smartest easiest way instead of all this craziness we have now!
TAMARA

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Both my wife and I work so our increase in taxes is double. I'm not quite sure how our insurance benefits (if we get to keep them)provided by our employers will increase our taxes. No one really knows since tax law is constantly changing and with this administration they don't even know exactly what they plan on doing or it seems that way to me. I would hate to try and run a business and not have a clue what the tax law would require. I mean how in the world can you plan what you need to do to keep your business running in the black?
I'm beginning to think those who want a flat tax rate are right and it would be the smartest easiest way instead of all this craziness we have now!
If your employer pays for your healthcare premiums the plan is that it will be counted as earned income and will increase your earn income that way. That is why you will be charge taxes on healthcare. Now if you pay for it yourself I really donnot know how a person will be taxed on that. I do not see how the government could tax a person when buy their own health insurance. But as we both know the government can do and does as it pleases anymore.
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Right now both my wife and I have employer paid healthcare but with ObamaCare we both think we might lose that benefit. Guess we'll see. But the benefit will increase our "earned income" substantially which will probably zero out any refund that would be due to overpayment of taxes anyway that's what I'm thinking.

Kinda think they want to "keep" every dime we pay in taxes throughout the year anyway, don't you?
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Napolitano Director of Homeland Security said she had no involvement in turning loose thousands of illegals in custody. Then exactly who is responsible?

One good thing that happened today was the report finally came in from the State Department on the Keystone Pipeline and guess what they couldn't find a single reason it would negatively impact the enviroment. Now we wait 45 days for public hearing and some more bureaucratic paperwork then maybe we can start to create some homegrown American jobs!
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JAG wrote:
Right now both my wife and I have employer paid healthcare but with ObamaCare we both think we might lose that benefit. Guess we'll see. But the benefit will increase our "earned income" substantially which will probably zero out any refund that would be due to overpayment of taxes anyway that's what I'm thinking.
Kinda think they want to "keep" every dime we pay in taxes throughout the year anyway, don't you?
I am thinking that when Pres. Obama said no tax raises 0n people making $250,000 and below sort of mislead those people for sure. But I am sure if you are an employee at any income level and even the one above $250,000 will be getting hit with the S.S. going back to 6.2% and if their employer is paying their healthcare premiums will be getting hit as well. The only employer being hit with having to pay for their employees health insurance is if they have 50 or more employees. I am hearing of these playces cutting employees so they are under 50 or cutting their employees to part time so they donot have to buy their health insurance. So why did so many people think by reelecting Obama back into office it was a great thing?

What little the government did after the first of the year with the budget to get us to March 1 they GAVE hoolywwod 400 million dollars to keep making film here in the USA. Like hollywood is broke!
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<quoted text>I am thinking that when Pres. Obama said no tax raises 0n people making $250,000 and below sort of mislead those people for sure. But I am sure if you are an employee at any income level and even the one above $250,000 will be getting hit with the S.S. going back to 6.2% and if their employer is paying their healthcare premiums will be getting hit as well. The only employer being hit with having to pay for their employees health insurance is if they have 50 or more employees. I am hearing of these playces cutting employees so they are under 50 or cutting their employees to part time so they donot have to buy their health insurance. So why did so many people think by reelecting Obama back into office it was a great thing?
What little the government did after the first of the year with the budget to get us to March 1 they GAVE hoolywwod 400 million dollars to keep making film here in the USA. Like hollywood is broke!
Yeah I read somewhere it was 600 million in tax breaks for the film industry so it's a political payback because hollywood loves Obama! So George Clooney and Ben Affleck are job secure, lol.
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Repigs are Repigs are Repigs.
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Ralph wrote:
Repigs are Repigs are Repigs.
Anything of value in that one cell brain of yours or are you keeping that to surprise us later?
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Yeah I read somewhere it was 600 million in tax breaks for the film industry so it's a political payback because hollywood loves Obama! So George Clooney and Ben Affleck are job secure, lol.
You may be right about the amount. At the same time The Government gave NASCAR money to get back on their feet. I think it was 40 million dollars.

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