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OK Health Care Freedom Amendment, State Question 756

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Delbert McFarland

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Justaminute wrote:
Yeah, sure Okie senators and reps want to stop at banning abortion!
Their new bill wants to stop ANY insurance coverage for birth control pills!
Now their saying that birth control pills poison a woman's body!
That's what happens when you elect hicks from the sticks in political office.
So any talk by Repubs about losing freedom is CRAP!
That's why we call Republicans the Woman Hating Party!
Enjoy your being a permanent minority party and Oklahoma being the laughing stock of the Nation.
Being a Republican today is about as popular as a poisonous rash!
Bahhh!
Goat Farmer

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Lets milk the Old Nanny and make goat cheese!
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Funny back in the olden days birth contol was not covered by health insurance. Also as far as I know not many medicines for allergies and sinus problems are still not covered by health insurance. And as far as I know most abortions were not covered by health insurance unless it was health related. Just to get rid of a baby for the hick of should not be covered by health insurance. Babies are a blessing to bad that not all parents are!
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Cancer, Renal Failure, COPD and Heart Disease are the most deadly illnesses which is killing a lot of McCurtain County Citizens, which falls under the Affordable Care Act. Too many deaths has taken place the past 5 years to these illnesses, which affects everyone. I truly believe their is Toxic Poison in our region making us all sick. Hack Hack.
jeff

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Feb 24, 2013
 
What are we going to do if gov continues like this.
ElohimsOkie

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jeff wrote:
What are we going to do if gov continues like this.
Most people will continue as they'er doing until food and gas gets to high to buy. After this comes protest,riots,stealing.
Packing Heat

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ElohimsOkie wrote:
<quoted text>Most people will continue as they'er doing until food and gas gets to high to buy. After this comes protest,riots,stealing.


Exactly, hence the reason liberals are pushing for gun control essentionally trying to un-arm the law abiding citizen yet the criminal that doesnít follow the law anyway just waltzes on in armed to take what they want. They get mine when they pry it out of my cold dead hand and not a second before. What Obama is doing is on purpose, make no mistake.
ElohimsOkie

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Packing Heat wrote:
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Exactly, hence the reason liberals are pushing for gun control essentionally trying to un-arm the law abiding citizen yet the criminal that doesnít follow the law anyway just waltzes on in armed to take what they want. They get mine when they pry it out of my cold dead hand and not a second before. What Obama is doing is on purpose, make no mistake.
It seems they can't make a permanant fix to any thing good that would help America.
I think they are purposely doing harm to us.
Packing Heat

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ElohimsOkie wrote:
<quoted text>It seems they can't make a permanant fix to any thing good that would help America.
I think they are purposely doing harm to us.


It is on purpose just as I said. Liberals have always worried conservatives would starve the beast and yet they are very close to bankrupting it. Regardless how it falls the poor will pay the price in suffering and the wealthy such as me will simply leave the country until the riots and slaughter are over with if I live long enough or even wanted to return.
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Packing Heat wrote:
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It is on purpose just as I said. Liberals have always worried conservatives would starve the beast and yet they are very close to bankrupting it. Regardless how it falls the poor will pay the price in suffering and the wealthy such as me will simply leave the country until the riots and slaughter are over with if I live long enough or even wanted to return.
That's one of the things that bothered me the most about some of the posts dusty used to put on this thread. He was smart enough to know better than some of his posted opinions. He knew the wealthy are the most mobile and can simply go where life is more hospitable. It's happening as we speak, look at those leaving France and why they are leaving France. Here in the states look at what is happening in California and why it is happening in California. Of course, dusty is also moving his family out of the country but he supported Obama knowing Obama would do exactly what he's doing. Dusty removes his children and grandchildren but supports the very person who damages the rest of America's children and grandchildren.

You and I made plans should this day happen. We have insulated ourselves from the suffering our fellow Americans will endured. This year will be worse than last year and 2014 the current suffering will only increase.
ElohimsOkie

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It will eventualy be world wide but probably worse in the US.
The bread and circus lifestyle has spoiled people and the landing will be rough.
LiLo

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Feb 24, 2013
 
ElohimsOkie wrote:
It will eventualy be world wide but probably worse in the US.
The bread and circus lifestyle has spoiled people and the landing will be rough.
According to MoneyMatters foreign countries have been doing just what the US is doing by printing money it will hit worldwide and those in the know are telling investors this wallstreet bull market will majorly crash because it's a "false" bull market.
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MistyGirl wrote:
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That's one of the things that bothered me the most about some of the posts dusty used to put on this thread. He was smart enough to know better than some of his posted opinions. He knew the wealthy are the most mobile and can simply go where life is more hospitable. It's happening as we speak, look at those leaving France and why they are leaving France. Here in the states look at what is happening in California and why it is happening in California. Of course, dusty is also moving his family out of the country but he supported Obama knowing Obama would do exactly what he's doing. Dusty removes his children and grandchildren but supports the very person who damages the rest of America's children and grandchildren.
You and I made plans should this day happen. We have insulated ourselves from the suffering our fellow Americans will endured. This year will be worse than last year and 2014 the current suffering will only increase.


He appeared he was smarter than that but also appeared to a very bitter individual too. I could actually stay right here and weather the storm as well but have been pondering that very thought for a few month now. As long as I am up here at the lake, I am pretty safe away from the thuggery for now anyway. It is with great hope when mid-term comes around the liberals will get their ass shellacked like last mid-term election. If not then I am definitely out of here.

Yes, we have prepared and I hate it for those that did not vote for this nonsense but didnít prepare and will suffer through it anyway. You can believe that this year will be very revealing about what lays ahead and 2014 will be a lot worse. If majority vote for liberals then as bad as it will be there will be many like me leave it and when the capital leaves this country it should fold pretty quick. Another thing that is certain is businesses will continue to move all employees above the 50 employee mark and above to part time below 29 hours a week to avoid paying healthcare on them.

That kind of increase of people on Obamacare to have to pay it all will collapse that nonsense under its own weight. Those in States that do not setup a State exchange will not be required to purchase from a Federal plan because that is not in the law, just State Exchanges. One way or another the Beast (the government) will Starve, either lack of funds or bankrupt but the days of the Great Liberal Giveaway are going to be short lived. Greece is a perfect example how that works, total chaos.

Great to hear from you and will chat with you again soon.

Best Regards
PH
Packing Heat

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LiLo wrote:
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According to MoneyMatters foreign countries have been doing just what the US is doing by printing money it will hit worldwide and those in the know are telling investors this wallstreet bull market will majorly crash because it's a "false" bull market.


Are you aware that JP Morgan, in 1895, personally bailed out the US government?
Perhaps some should go back and learn a little history. The United States in 1893 slid into a deep depression. In 1895 they literally ran out of gold. Who stepped in and personally bailed out the government? JP Morgan.

He did it again in 1907 with John D. Rockefeller, who this time injected their personal capital to bail out the banks. And in 2008, JP Morgan Chase bought out Bear Sterns and then Washington Mutual before succumbing that they too might need a bailout themselves. Right now in the United States investors have well over 2 Trillion Dollars sitting on the sideline not to mention the Trillions off shore.

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/Economy/story...

Remember if the Government goes bankrupt the wealthy win as always. The progressives have always told poor people if the vote for them they would prosper and every time they say it, the rich just get richer. Not even this Damn Purple Lip Kenyan will take the wealth away from the wealthy, most smart one like me took our wealth out of reach of this socialist minded moron. The middle class that still have job pays, the poor get poorer while the unemployed middle class join them and the wealthy get wealthier, always has and always will. This game going on now is all politics and a game liberals will lose one way or the other.

http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2012/08/22/the...
LiLo

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Packing Heat wrote:
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Are you aware that JP Morgan, in 1895, personally bailed out the US government?
Perhaps some should go back and learn a little history. The United States in 1893 slid into a deep depression. In 1895 they literally ran out of gold. Who stepped in and personally bailed out the government? JP Morgan.
He did it again in 1907 with John D. Rockefeller, who this time injected their personal capital to bail out the banks. And in 2008, JP Morgan Chase bought out Bear Sterns and then Washington Mutual before succumbing that they too might need a bailout themselves. Right now in the United States investors have well over 2 Trillion Dollars sitting on the sideline not to mention the Trillions off shore.
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/Economy/story...
Remember if the Government goes bankrupt the wealthy win as always. The progressives have always told poor people if the vote for them they would prosper and every time they say it, the rich just get richer. Not even this Damn Purple Lip Kenyan will take the wealth away from the wealthy, most smart one like me took our wealth out of reach of this socialist minded moron. The middle class that still have job pays, the poor get poorer while the unemployed middle class join them and the wealthy get wealthier, always has and always will. This game going on now is all politics and a game liberals will lose one way or the other.
http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2012/08/22/the...
Yes, I watched the discovery channel I think it was who did a documentary on JP Morgan and the Rockefellers so I was familiar with that historical fact. I was also familiar with WAMU and their financial mess. As far as the 16+ trillion in debt I think it's ridiculous to hyperventilate over 85 billion in cuts on spending because it really won't make that much difference in the debt. I think we need serious reduction in spending and long term budget to handle this huge debt.
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Feb 24, 2013
 
Read a report Moody's is downgrading the United Kingdom......it's starting!
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Packing Heat wrote:
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He appeared he was smarter than that but also appeared to a very bitter individual too. I could actually stay right here and weather the storm as well but have been pondering that very thought for a few month now. As long as I am up here at the lake, I am pretty safe away from the thuggery for now anyway. It is with great hope when mid-term comes around the liberals will get their ass shellacked like last mid-term election. If not then I am definitely out of here.
Yes, we have prepared and I hate it for those that did not vote for this nonsense but didnít prepare and will suffer through it anyway. You can believe that this year will be very revealing about what lays ahead and 2014 will be a lot worse. If majority vote for liberals then as bad as it will be there will be many like me leave it and when the capital leaves this country it should fold pretty quick. Another thing that is certain is businesses will continue to move all employees above the 50 employee mark and above to part time below 29 hours a week to avoid paying healthcare on them.
That kind of increase of people on Obamacare to have to pay it all will collapse that nonsense under its own weight. Those in States that do not setup a State exchange will not be required to purchase from a Federal plan because that is not in the law, just State Exchanges. One way or another the Beast (the government) will Starve, either lack of funds or bankrupt but the days of the Great Liberal Giveaway are going to be short lived. Greece is a perfect example how that works, total chaos.
Great to hear from you and will chat with you again soon.
Best Regards
PH
Losing his wife was very tramatic for him I believe. When you lose someone you love and your helpless to prevent it the experience does change you. I know that from personal experience. He's angry and in pain. I hope he can come to terms and be grateful for having someone so very special in his life. Some people never experience that kind of love and companionship and his life has been enriched for having known her and married her. At least that is my take on it!

As far as our economy it's in shambles and to say anything else is delusional. Greece,Spain,Portugal,Italy all have terrible debt issues and today I read an article that Moody's is downgrading the United Kingdom so we are starting to see the trend spread. The Quanitative Easing which our fed implemented was a temp bandaid placed on a critically serious wounds. Cosmetically looks good but in reality is no help to the patient whose bleeding and in desperate need of antibotics and blood transfusion. It amazes me that the feds are still telling us we don't really have an inflation problem when groceries have double on most products and many are triple the price of 2008. Fuel prices are through the roof and my healthcare premiums are over double what I paid in 2009. As you know I made the decision to sell my business interest last year. I had an opportunity to make a good (not great)profit and so far they have retained all employees. But, I also know they will no doubt reconsider what payroll/insurance is costing them with additional requirements and if minimum wage is increased I know those who work in entrance level jobs will be cut. Jobs will be combined or automated to save on cost. That's the reality of it. They told me to drop in anytime but I made the decision that once the paperwork was finalized I was finished. I wish them well, I had a lot of blood, sweat and tears invested but it was time to let it go. My husband retired as well so we have been taking some small trips to visit friends and relatives in Kansas,Missouri and Florida.

Good to hear you are doing well. Please give my regards to your family.

Till next time :-)
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He appeared he was smarter than that but also appeared to a very bitter individual too. I could actually stay right here and weather the storm as well but have been pondering that very thought for a few month now. As long as I am up here at the lake, I am pretty safe away from the thuggery for now anyway. It is with great hope when mid-term comes around the liberals will get their ass shellacked like last mid-term election. If not then I am definitely out of here.
Yes, we have prepared and I hate it for those that did not vote for this nonsense but didnít prepare and will suffer through it anyway. You can believe that this year will be very revealing about what lays ahead and 2014 will be a lot worse. If majority vote for liberals then as bad as it will be there will be many like me leave it and when the capital leaves this country it should fold pretty quick. Another thing that is certain is businesses will continue to move all employees above the 50 employee mark and above to part time below 29 hours a week to avoid paying healthcare on them.
That kind of increase of people on Obamacare to have to pay it all will collapse that nonsense under its own weight. Those in States that do not setup a State exchange will not be required to purchase from a Federal plan because that is not in the law, just State Exchanges. One way or another the Beast (the government) will Starve, either lack of funds or bankrupt but the days of the Great Liberal Giveaway are going to be short lived. Greece is a perfect example how that works, total chaos.
Great to hear from you and will chat with you again soon.
Best Regards
PH
Yes he's bitter but I hope he can come to terms and overcome bitterness. It lessens his remaining life and effects the other love ones who are helpless to ease his pain. He must overcome the loss. I'm speaking from personal experience and it's easier said than done. I wish him well.

Our country is in a serious financial situation. We have no money we are over our head in debt. The Chinese have hacked,stolen,pur-chased our technology in so many areas...and we are totally indebted to them. How stupid can Congress be? It's a matter of national security and Harry Reid,Nancy Pelosi and President Obama seem to be clueless. Our debt is killing us.

Last year I sold my business interest as I came to the conclusion I didn't want to be responsible for working with this terrible economy and try to keep everyone employeed full time. I'm a person who gets attached to those who have proven themselves honorable hard working people and I always kept them and their families interest part of my decision making. Might be why my company wasn't Forbes top 500, lol. But I slept with a clear conscience! Now I find myself from time to time wondering if the new suggested minimum wage goes into effect how many entrance level positions will be reduced or automated thereby cutting jobs. I know it's not my problem but in the past I was able to help several college kids make their way through school. It will be a new reality.

Today I read a article that Moody's is cutting credit worthiness of United Kingdom...and so it begans as the stronger countries begin to join the ranks of Portugal,Italy,Spain and Greece. U.S. has already been given a downgrade with additional credit cuts coming down the pike because of Congress's lack of budget. The increase cost of living that Americans are suffering with today and lack of jobs plus additional regulations on businesses for 2013 will only accelerate the downward spiral of the U.S. economy. ObamaCare is already not working and 2014 our economy will be in more serious condition with much more liabilities that must be paid in taxes. It's a recipe for disaster.

Anyway, enough of that, wishing you and yours the best as always. I'll drop in from time to time. Take care :)
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Sorry for the double post the first one failed to post until after I had already written the second one.

Satellite link could be the blame........
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MistyGirl wrote:
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Our country is in a serious financial situation. We have no money we are over our head in debt.

Our debt is killing us.

Might be why my company wasn't Forbes top 500, lol. But I slept with a clear conscience!
I'm wealthier now than ever in absolute terms.
I'm not drowning in debt. Neither is the country.

You're company wasn't a Forbes 500 because you lacked
what it took to make it so. Your conscience was clear
and you brain was empty. Don't brag about that.

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