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OK Health Care Freedom Amendment, State Question 756

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TAMARA

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Jan 14, 2013
 
There is not a perfect society nor will there evere be! You would have to have perfect people and that is not happening!

Since: Jul 12

Oklahoma City, OK

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#35152
Jan 14, 2013
 
TAMARA wrote:
There is not a perfect society nor will there evere be! You would have to have perfect people and that is not happening!
...thus my position. You allow the people to have access to limited arms literally on principle. You allow them to have protectionism *not* against government tyranny, but the tyranny of evil men. The basic citizen is a first-response system against MS13 and the common cold killer. I'm sure you understand that as well, on principle of your tone.

Of course, that's not to say I wouldn't be opposed to a society without bump-firing stocks and double-drum M16s.
WarForOil

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#35153
Jan 14, 2013
 
DistinctlyOK wrote:
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I think this discussion is filtered out into groups that either do or do not have faith in the perfection of society.
That's a hoot. Someone from Okieland ( bottom of all state lists )
talkin' of that there perfect society. Gotta admire the hubris
( and ignorance ).

Since: Jul 12

Oklahoma City, OK

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#35154
Jan 15, 2013
 
WarForOil wrote:
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That's a hoot. Someone from Okieland ( bottom of all state lists )
talkin' of that there perfect society. Gotta admire the hubris
( and ignorance ).
I don't believe in a perfect society, but a perfect society is the basis for which a pure democratic functions. That's basic foundational stuff.

Call me out where you can, but this whole federalized system of affairs irks me. I don't believe that people should put their lives in the hand of a system driven by professional integrity, albeit a corporation or a governing body. With the federal healthcare system, you're putting your health and wellness in the care of both.
TAMARA

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#35155
Jan 15, 2013
 
SOCIAL SECURITY

is not part of the Federal Budget (General Fund). It is a separate account from the General Fund, and has its own source of income ("Payroll Tax"). Social Security payments go in the Social Security Trust Fund (SSTF), and should NOT be counted as general revenue. The SSTF is supposed to be used to pay benefits. But, the Government is under NO OBLIGATION to pay Social Security benefits, and has even borrowed substantially from the SSTF for general operations!

As of August 2010, there is less being paid into the Social Security Trust Fund than is being paid out to beneficiaries. Social Security is now using its "surplus".

Other Government agencies borrowed from that trust fund, and now have to pay it back. But they already spent it! So how will they pay it back? Through bailouts and taxes. Here is a "must read" about the problem. Your payroll taxes are going into a bottomless hole!

The Social Security Administration's FAQ page about the Trust Fund, and their latest Report (May 2011) explain it well.

Beware the term "Social Security Surplus"; there is no such thing. Social Security is a Ponzi Scheme, there is never more in the Trust Fund than will ever be needed.

Here is a little info to how the government handles So. Security and then have the balls to threaten the senior citizens if they cannot agree on the budget. For the people HAHA!

Federal Budget Spendig, Deficits, the National Debit and Social Seurity
www.federalbudget.com
Elohimsokie

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Jan 15, 2013
 

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DustyOutlaw wrote:
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Since 2/3rds of American adults are obese and 1/3rd of children obviously a whole lot of people are not listening to the govt about what to eat. Did the govt not tell you that light bulb is two words and not spelled lite?
Hey puppet, if the gov. ever pulls its hand out of your a## you'll fall limp as a dish rag.
WarForOil

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DistinctlyOK wrote:
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I don't believe in a perfect society, but a perfect society is the basis for which a pure democratic functions. That's basic foundational stuff.
You are blind to those around you.
Notice that most people shouldn't be allowed to drive
and certainly not vote. Democracy sucks.
It takes intelligent educated people to run a country,
enjoy Federalism. The politicians ain't bright but
they tower above the public.
Elohimsokie

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#35158
Jan 15, 2013
 
Truth about Sandy Hook.... go to theintelhub.com
Packing Heat

Vinita, OK

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#35159
Jan 15, 2013
 
TAMARA wrote:
I hope the government comes to an agreement on the budget. But there is one tax cut I think they need to let run out and go back like it was before Pres. Bush's tax cuts. This should have never ever been messed with. It is the tax cut he gave to employees to what they pay into Social Security. Before Bush's tax cuts Employer was payin into for employee 6.2% and employee was also paying into Social Security 6.2%. But after Bush's tax cuts The employer was still paying for employee 6.2% but the employees pay into Social Security dropped to 4.2%. This should have never been messed with!


Tamara, you’re correct but it wasn’t George Bush that enacted that tax cut. In 2009,
Barrack Hussein Obama enacted that “holiday” on the payroll tax deduction from
employees’ paychecks, dropping the rate from 6.2 percent to 4.2 percent.
TAMARA

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Packing Heat wrote:
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Tamara, you’re correct but it wasn’t George Bush that enacted that tax cut. In 2009,
Barrack Hussein Obama enacted that “holiday” on the payroll tax deduction from
employees’ paychecks, dropping the rate from 6.2 percent to 4.2 percent.
Welcome back and I realized my mistake. So that makes me even more upset with Pres. Obama when he threaten people on social security will not get their money if the government cannot come up with a game plan for the budget!
Packing Heat

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#35161
Jan 15, 2013
 
TAMARA wrote:
<quoted text>Welcome back and I realized my mistake. So that makes me even more upset with Pres. Obama when he threaten people on social security will not get their money if the government cannot come up with a game plan for the budget!


Thank you.
TAMARA

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WarForOil wrote:
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You are blind to those around you.
Notice that most people shouldn't be allowed to drive
and certainly not vote. Democracy sucks.
It takes intelligent educated people to run a country,
enjoy Federalism. The politicians ain't bright but
they tower above the public.
I Donot think Politicians tower above the public unless you are talking about most politicians being dishonest to why the are even in politics.!
Elohimsokie

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WarForOil wrote:
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You are blind to those around you.
Notice that most people shouldn't be allowed to drive
and certainly not vote. Democracy sucks.
It takes intelligent educated people to run a country,
enjoy Federalism. The politicians ain't bright but
they tower above the public.
I partly agree. People who vote stright ticket without knowing the canidates need their heads examined.
Elohimsokie

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#35164
Jan 15, 2013
 
Watch the Politix video, Sandy Hook, truther.
rider

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#35165
Jan 15, 2013
 
topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-franklin-cover-up... - Similar
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Conspiracy of Silence: The Franklin Cover Up Conspiracy of Silence, a documentary listed for viewing in TV Guide Magazine was to be aired on the Discovery ...
rider

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#35166
Jan 15, 2013
 
Conspiracy of Silence: The Franklin Cover Up .
http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-franklin-c...
Packing Heat

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#35167
Jan 17, 2013
 
TAMARA wrote:
<quoted text>Welcome back and I realized my mistake. So that makes me even more upset with Pres. Obama when he threaten people on social security will not get their money if the government cannot come up with a game plan for the budget!


Two things Tamara, he doesn’t have the Political Balls to ever stop sending Social Security Checks out and on time regardless and he isn’t interested in a budget deal. Barrack Hussein Obama has made it very clear he wants unlimited spending with no limit to debt ceiling. He’s a f*ckn’ idiot to think it, never mind he will never get it. I believe we are in for 4 more years of playing kick the can down the road, we shall see and the continuance of the 3 ring circus we have watched the last 4 years.
WarForOil

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TAMARA wrote:
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I Donot think Politicians tower above the public unless you are talking about most politicians being dishonest to why the are even in politics.!
Anyone who reads your posts would agree with me.
Democracy is not intended for the likes of you.
You need to be led not heard.
One in seven people in WalMart shoplift.
Very few politicians actually steal.

Drink beer and watch another sitcom on FOX.

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Jan 17, 2013
 

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WarForOil wrote:
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Anyone who reads your posts would agree with me.
Democracy is not intended for the likes of you.
You need to be led not heard.
One in seven people in WalMart shoplift.
Very few politicians actually steal.
Drink beer and watch another sitcom on FOX.
Is your entire existence centered on mockery? Give it up, already.
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

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Jan 17, 2013
 

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WarForOil wrote:
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Anyone who reads your posts would agree with me.
Democracy is not intended for the likes of you.
You need to be led not heard.
One in seven people in WalMart shoplift.
Very few politicians actually steal.
Drink beer and watch another sitcom on FOX.
Well friend, I donot shoplift at Walmart, Only drink beer occasionally and donot watch sitcoms on Fox. I have the very same rights as you to be heard and donot need to be lead to know when someones know what the right thing should be done. But I very rarely read anything from you that has knowledge behind it. Just your short attacks to everyone!

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