“Of Course I Can”

Since: Sep 08

Corsicana, TX

#19546 Jul 12, 2013
Well Duh wrote:
I said we could use both as far as oil. From our natural resources and if need be Canadian oil.
Still not enough to fulfill our needs It's not just about cutting our dependence on foreign oil. It's about cutting our dependence on oil period. Stricter mileage standards, higher gas prices--all of those things that Americans generally dislike. If the solution was as simple as you imply, it would have happened a long time ago.
Well Duh wrote:
Let the islamic muslims fight it out as they have for centuries. Then we will see how they fair and myabe they will be a bit more respectful.
Step out and let Russia and China have control of those regions? Is that what you are saying?
Well Duh wrote:
Like I said, what do they have besides oil and war? Nothing but ugly women and sand. Oil refineries in the midwest can work on our own oil. Plus if President butt plug allows more drilling, we would be the oil whores of the world and have cheap gas for ourselves.
Jesus, you people are amazing. You hear a lie on Fox and you just keep repeating it.

Please check out the graph in this link from Baker Hughes--one of the countries largest drilling companies.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/...
Well Duh wrote:
And think of the jobs, not only for drilling but parts too and transportation. Plus other business come around the plants. OMG....we can not have a outbreak of jobs or the socialist liberals might have to work and show some pride and backbone.
Now that's interesting. You support the Keystone Pipeline, which by all accounts will decrease the number of American jobs in drilling and developing our own supply, but you claim you want to see more jobs in drilling.

You can't have it both ways.
Arthur

United States

#19547 Jul 12, 2013
Sundog512 wrote:
There is no rebuttal for your insane ramblings. You want Obama impeached for giving aid to Egypt. Fine, start the proceedings.
Or do you have to be older than 12 to do that.
;)
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I want Obama impeached for knowingly breaking the law, not giving aid to Egypt. We both know without aid Egypt will erupt into civil was and God knows what, but I expect my president to follow the law. I guess you have to be over 12 to understand the ramifications of the president ignoring the law when he pleases.

“Tears of a Clown”

Since: Jun 11

Location hidden

#19548 Jul 12, 2013
Andrew Johnson wrote:
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Someone who runs his mouth as much as you do ought to back it up with your real name.
I just laugh at this particular post.

“Of Course I Can”

Since: Sep 08

Corsicana, TX

#19549 Jul 12, 2013
Well Artie, stomp your feet and scream a little louder. Maybe you'll get your wish. Hold your breath too. That'll show 'em!

;)
Arthur wrote:
<quoted text>I want Obama impeached for knowingly breaking the law, not giving aid to Egypt. We both know without aid Egypt will erupt into civil was and God knows what, but I expect my president to follow the law. I guess you have to be over 12 to understand the ramifications of the president ignoring the law when he pleases.

“Of Course I Can”

Since: Sep 08

Corsicana, TX

#19550 Jul 12, 2013
Weepy wrote:
<quoted text>
I just laugh at this particular post.
I guess backing up my claims with supporting links is not enough for him.

LOL.

Alex has a long history of making claims he can't back up--like threatening to shoot someone with a gun he didn't have.

;)

“Tears of a Clown”

Since: Jun 11

Location hidden

#19551 Jul 12, 2013
Sundog512 wrote:
<quoted text>
I guess backing up my claims with supporting links is not enough for him.
LOL.
Alex has a long history of making claims he can't back up--like threatening to shoot someone with a gun he didn't have.
;)
This clown got some motive for what it is doing and sure ain't really about going to DC because that isn't happening unless he is taking a vacation there.

“Of Course I Can”

Since: Sep 08

Corsicana, TX

#19552 Jul 12, 2013
Weepy wrote:
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This clown got some motive for what it is doing and sure ain't really about going to DC because that isn't happening unless he is taking a vacation there.
Yeah, I'll tell you what his motive is....he's bat-shyt crazy.

“Of Course I Can”

Since: Sep 08

Corsicana, TX

#19553 Jul 12, 2013
Hey Artie--The situation in Egypt? It's not nearly as simplistic as you think:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/...

Try to put your emotions in check long enough to read the entire article.
Arthur

United States

#19554 Jul 12, 2013
Sundog512 wrote:
Hey Artie--The situation in Egypt? It's not nearly as simplistic as you think:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/...
Try to put your emotions in check long enough to read the entire article.
I guess you have to be over 12 to understand the president could follow the law and still aid Egypt. But no worries, just ignore it like the rest of the mindless apathetic zombies. I will stop about Egypt since no one but me seems to care. I consider it one of the most serious violations and the future will show the precedent it helps set, that the president can ignore the law when he pleases with no consequences. I dont know why I waste my time, this country is doomed. The freedom loving country the our forefather founded is history. Most of the population is uninformed, apathetic idiots who are too stupid to understand the ramifications of what they ignore. Go ahead and make some more childish insults and continue to ignore it like the rest of the zombies.
Arthur

United States

#19555 Jul 12, 2013
Isn’t the United States supposed to cut off all military aid after a coup? In theory, yes. The Foreign Assistance Act, first passed back in 1961, says so quite clearly:“None of the funds appropriated or otherwise made available pursuant to this Act shall be obligated or expended to finance directly any assistance to the government of any country whose duly elected head of government is deposed by military coup or decree.”

But the U.S. government has long been flexible on this provision. As my colleague Max Fisher detailed at length,“while the U.S. often does follow this law, it tends to ignore or bypass it when it sees key national security interests at stake – which may well apply in Egypt.”

For instance, the Obama administration was slow in cutting aid to Honduras in 2009 after a coup there. And George W. Bush got a waiver to reinstate aid to Pakistan in 2001, even though then-leader Pervez Musharraf had pretty clearly come to power in a military coup.

I will ignore all the reasons the article mentions because as I said before, those are totally irrelevant to following the LAW.
I will say that just because, as the article states, "they tend to ignore or bypass it", doesnt make it right or legal. Bypassing is one thing. That is legal. And ohhh looky, your arch enemy GWB actually followed the law and got a waiver. That is all I am saying Obama should do. FOLLOW THE DAMN LAW! But who cares, dictator Obama can do as he pleases.

“Of Course I Can”

Since: Sep 08

Corsicana, TX

#19556 Jul 12, 2013
Arthur wrote:
<quoted text>I guess you have to be over 12 to understand the president could follow the law and still aid Egypt.
Well I guess that leaves you out, Artie.
Arthur wrote:
<quoted text>But no worries, just ignore it like the rest of the mindless apathetic zombies.
What? As long as we have warriors like you, Artie, we don't have to ignore it. You'll joust with windmills all day long.
Arthur wrote:
<quoted text>I will stop about Egypt since no one but me seems to care.
We can't all be 12, Artie. Besides, I am sure Cowardly cares. He doesn't like Obama either.

Arthur wrote:
<quoted text>I consider it one of the most serious violations and the future will show the precedent it helps set, that the president can ignore the law when he pleases with no consequences.
Yeah, I could just imagine the pissing and moaning you would be doing if he cut them off and they shut the Sianai Canal and your mom couldn't take you to soccer practice.
Arthur wrote:
<quoted text>I dont know why I waste my time, this country is doomed. The freedom loving country the our forefather founded is history. Most of the population is uninformed, apathetic idiots who are too stupid to understand the ramifications of what they ignore. Go ahead and make some more childish insults and continue to ignore it like the rest of the zombies.
Thanks, Artie, I will. Or would you rather I call you Norma Rae?

“Of Course I Can”

Since: Sep 08

Corsicana, TX

#19557 Jul 12, 2013
Arthur wrote:
Isn’t the United States supposed to cut off all military aid after a coup? In theory, yes. The Foreign Assistance Act, first passed back in 1961, says so quite clearly:“None of the funds appropriated or otherwise made available pursuant to this Act shall be obligated or expended to finance directly any assistance to the government of any country whose duly elected head of government is deposed by military coup or decree.”
But the U.S. government has long been flexible on this provision. As my colleague Max Fisher detailed at length,“while the U.S. often does follow this law, it tends to ignore or bypass it when it sees key national security interests at stake – which may well apply in Egypt.”
For instance, the Obama administration was slow in cutting aid to Honduras in 2009 after a coup there. And George W. Bush got a waiver to reinstate aid to Pakistan in 2001, even though then-leader Pervez Musharraf had pretty clearly come to power in a military coup.
I will ignore all the reasons the article mentions because as I said before, those are totally irrelevant to following the LAW.
No they aren't, Artie. If you understood the consequences of abandoning Egypt--with their large army and control of the route that oil is shipped through, you might be reluctant to make this rash, emotional decision you are clinging to.
Arthur wrote:
<quoted text>I will say that just because, as the article states, "they tend to ignore or bypass it", doesnt make it right or legal. Bypassing is one thing. That is legal. And ohhh looky, your arch enemy GWB actually followed the law and got a waiver. That is all I am saying Obama should do. FOLLOW THE DAMN LAW! But who cares, dictator Obama can do as he pleases.
Ohhh Lawzee, Artie, you got your panties plumb in a twist here, don't you? I am sure if your fellow republicans thought they could use this law to impeach that mean old black man in office, they would. In the meantime, take a pill or something.
Arthur

United States

#19559 Jul 12, 2013
Sundog512 wrote:
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No they aren't, Artie. If you understood the consequences of abandoning Egypt--
You still dont get it. Obama can follow the law and not "abandon" Egypt. Its called a waiver, you know, like the one George Bush actually got. But ignore the truth and continue to defend the president breaking the law because it is inconvenient to follow it.

“Of Course I Can”

Since: Sep 08

Corsicana, TX

#19560 Jul 12, 2013
Crowley wrote:
<quoted text>
People like Arthur and I do care because we are not useless morons like you. We work for a living and give our hard earned money to the government who in turn passes it out to worthless pieces of crap like you in order to buy your vote. Boy, what a real man you are Stuck Fick.
No, you are useless morons like each other.

;)

Oh right, fox tells idiots like you and Arthur that all democrats are free-loaders. What they don't tell you is how to explain that the richest states in the country vote democratic and the poorest ones vote republican.

Anyone who is not like you is a "real man" Cowardly. Apparently everyone but you knows that.

“Of Course I Can”

Since: Sep 08

Corsicana, TX

#19561 Jul 12, 2013
How do you know he is not getting a waiver in place? These things don't magically appear on his desk. They have to go through a process and because the situation is an on-going one in Egypt, we can't just turn our backs on them.

You don't. You just want to get all dramatic on us.

;)

How do we give that money to Egypt? Is it paid daily, weekly, monthly, quarterly, yearly? Have we given them money since the coup?
Arthur wrote:
<quoted text>You still dont get it. Obama can follow the law and not "abandon" Egypt. Its called a waiver, you know, like the one George Bush actually got. But ignore the truth and continue to defend the president breaking the law because it is inconvenient to follow it.
Arthur

United States

#19562 Jul 12, 2013
Sundog512 wrote:
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Well I guess that leaves you out, Artie.
<quoted text>
What? As long as we have warriors like you, Artie, we don't have to ignore it. You'll joust with windmills all day long.
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We can't all be 12, Artie. Besides, I am sure Cowardly cares. He doesn't like Obama either.
<quoted text>
Yeah, I could just imagine the pissing and moaning you would be doing if he cut them off and they shut the Sianai Canal and your mom couldn't take you to soccer practice.
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Thanks, Artie, I will. Or would you rather I call you Norma Rae?
Looks at all these childish insults, something a 12 year old would say. That is the best you can do? Maybe when you grow up you can have adult discussions without being rude and immature.
Well Duh

Ashburn, VA

#19563 Jul 12, 2013
Sundog.....we can do off shore drilling and also on federal land. And if someone likes an idea and you do not then it is automaticlly a Fox news thing. Unlike you, I watch all and make a determination. And I could care less about the middle east. Who cares if Russia would gain controll? Plus Russia has tried before and lost big time. The people of that region are nut cases and are not affraid to die. Why must we police the world? Let us for a change, take care of our backyard and people.

“Of Course I Can”

Since: Sep 08

Corsicana, TX

#19564 Jul 12, 2013
Arthur wrote:
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Looks at all these childish insults, something a 12 year old would say. That is the best you can do? Maybe when you grow up you can have adult discussions without being rude and immature.
Sorry, Artie, I have a very low tolerance for butt-hurt whiners who can't see the bigger picture. Jousting with windmills is for idiots and mythical characters, and since you're not Don Quoxite, I have to deal,with you another way.

Now quit crying about the law and suck it up.

“Of Course I Can”

Since: Sep 08

Corsicana, TX

#19565 Jul 12, 2013
We are doing offshore drilling and we are drilling on private land. If we are exporting gasoline, then there is not a shortage and no need to drill on federal lands. You, like most republicans, just want to bitch about something. Look up Williston ND and read all about the oil boom going on up there. Not on federal lands.

You will care if Russia gains control. Why the hell did people fight and die to stop the spread of Communism if you wimps just want to roll over and give them everything?

We're in NO position to walk away from the Middle East and neither are our allies.

The world is far too complex for your simple solutions.
Well Duh wrote:
Sundog.....we can do off shore drilling and also on federal land. And if someone likes an idea and you do not then it is automaticlly a Fox news thing. Unlike you, I watch all and make a determination. And I could care less about the middle east. Who cares if Russia would gain controll? Plus Russia has tried before and lost big time. The people of that region are nut cases and are not affraid to die. Why must we police the world? Let us for a change, take care of our backyard and people.
Arthur

United States

#19566 Jul 12, 2013
Sundog512 wrote:
How do you know he is not getting a waiver in place? These things don't magically appear on his desk. They have to go through a process and because the situation is an on-going one in Egypt, we can't just turn our backs on them.
You don't. You just want to get all dramatic on us.
;)
How do we give that money to Egypt? Is it paid daily, weekly, monthly, quarterly, yearly? Have we given them money since the coup?
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He wont bother with a waiver. He doesnt have to follow the law, he does as he pleases. Oh well. This is the country we have become and you are right, I guess I must accept the fact we have become a cowardly nanny state country with gestapo tactics with a president who ignores the law and the Constitution and does what he pleases. Life goes on... for now.

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