Ignorance

Fairmont, WV

#10920 Jan 26, 2013
hope wrote:
<quoted text>
lol save a child from being murdered, you say? by atvs? wtf, man? what about the 20,000 of them dying everyday from starvation? and war, by the weapons of our military? these are the issues we need to be concerning ourselves with! It can change, americans are either too selfish or lazy...probably both to bother themselves with it. enjoy the cheeseburger you'll probably be having today, and the french fries you'll probably throw away half of. Enjoy shitting in clean water. think about it.
You act like I am not concerned or aware of any of that. I do what I can. I donate not only money but time to many causes. The discussion was about an assault weapons ban. I would gladly engage in a conversation about saving lives around the world. Also, my first two sentences in the post you to which you replied were ambiguous. I wasn't saying ATVs murdered kids.
Ignorance

Fairmont, WV

#10921 Jan 26, 2013
MindlessFoxBot wrote:
<quoted text>THis is the mentality of some people. They are happy to give away their freedoms in the name of letting the government protect them.(They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.- Ben Franklin)!! Talk about the slippery slope I mentioned earlier. First it was guns, then video games, now I got them to admit they would be OK with banning ATV's. Wait til I include the boating and Jet ski statistics, I am sure they should be banned also. Around 700 people per year are killed in boating accidents, almost 800 jet skiers killed per year. I mean who really needs a boat or jet ski anyway? Banning them would save lives, almost 1500 people per year. People killed with assault weapons 48 per year.
Your argument seems to be that we just can't do anything about it. Why don't other countries have the number of meaningless slaughters that we do? It is a lame argument that you won't give up assault weapons just because it is a "slippery slope". People that want to own these guns are cowards plain and simple. You are scared of every boogie man of which you've heard. It is pathetic. Man up. I would bet $10,000 that you will never defend yourself or your family with an assault weapon. Tell yourself whatever you need to justify owning these phallic symbols. I bet you buy BIG guns to make up for what your manhood is lacking.

Since: Dec 12

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#10922 Jan 26, 2013
Did I mention swimming pools? Thousands of lives could be saved every year if we only ban swimming pools. 3500 people every year die in swimming pools, including 700 children. That is 700 children that could be saved in one year, compared to 48 assault weapons deaths of people of all ages. Outrage over swimming pools? None

Since: Dec 12

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#10923 Jan 26, 2013
Ignorance wrote:
<quoted text> Your argument seems to be that we just can't do anything about it. Why don't other countries have the number of meaningless slaughters that we do? It is a lame argument that you won't give up assault weapons just because it is a "slippery slope". People that want to own these guns are cowards plain and simple. You are scared of every boogie man of which you've heard. It is pathetic. Man up. I would bet $10,000 that you will never defend yourself or your family with an assault weapon. Tell yourself whatever you need to justify owning these phallic symbols. I bet you buy BIG guns to make up for what your manhood is lacking.
Sissy is afraid of guns so no one should be able to own them. Banning guns still wont get you out of your moms basement waiting for the government to protect you from your own shadow. Who is really the scared one? Right now no domestic enemy, but people like you might be in the future. When you start to think you are going to tell me what I can watch, read, play, own, eat, we are going to have a start to have problems.
Tippy

Alexandria, VA

#10924 Jan 26, 2013
devastated wrote:
<quoted text> It is not a ban on all shotguns or handguns. You are the one being intellectually dishonest. Why should honest law abiding citizens have their children murdered, and have people defending the instrument of their death. I hope the weapons ban passes. I wish you would have your guns taken away. You don't deserve them.
It is also shotguns and hand guns.

WASHINGTON ó California Democratic Sen. Dianne Feinstein staged a dramatic press conference Thursday on Capitol Hill with 10 weapons at her side and unveiled legislation instituting a government ban on more than 150 types of firearms, including rifles, pistols and shotguns.

Flanked by other anti-gun liberal lawmakers, including New York Sen. Chuck Schumer and Illinois Sen. Dick Durbin, Feinstein announced the introduction of the ďAssault Weapons Ban of 2013.Ē
Tippy

Alexandria, VA

#10925 Jan 26, 2013
Chicago has the toughest gun laws in America. How is that working out for them? Highest gun murder rate in the country. They disarmed the honest citizens and the criminals have free reign to kill at will. Citizens can't protect their children now. They are at the mercy of killers due to liberal feel good do nothing policies.
mercy

Charleston, WV

#10926 Jan 26, 2013
This will need get solved. GOD BLESS AMERICA!

Since: Dec 12

Location hidden

#10928 Jan 26, 2013
Tippy wrote:
Chicago has the toughest gun laws in America. How is that working out for them? Highest gun murder rate in the country. They disarmed the honest citizens and the criminals have free reign to kill at will. Citizens can't protect their children now. They are at the mercy of killers due to liberal feel good do nothing policies.
Updated: Sunday Jan 27, 2013 12:15 AM EST

CHICAGO (AP)- At least five people were gunned down Saturday in Chicago, including a 34-year-old man whose mother had already lost her three other children to shootings.

Yeah those gun bans really work. NOT!
Ignorance

Fairmont, WV

#10929 Jan 27, 2013
MindlessFoxBot wrote:
<quoted text>Updated: Sunday Jan 27, 2013 12:15 AM EST
CHICAGO (AP)- At least five people were gunned down Saturday in Chicago, including a 34-year-old man whose mother had already lost her three other children to shootings.
Yeah those gun bans really work. NOT!
The ban on handguns in Chicago was thrown out in 2010. A quote for you from someone from Chicago. They might have more of a clue about gun violence since they have to witness it.ď'Thereís just way too many guns in this city,' Police Superintendent Garry McCarthy said at a press conference last week.'Thereís way too many guns in the state of Illinois. And itís one of those situations that if we donít do something about it Ė and everything we do matters--if we donít do something about it, itís just going to continue at the rate that it is.'" Too many guns? Is that what he said? I thought no one had any guns there. I mean that's what I've been told by my NRA talking points memo. You are completely devoid of facts. All you have is rhetoric. You are a pussyboy. Go polish your big guns and dream of having a normal sized penis.
Ignorance

Fairmont, WV

#10930 Jan 27, 2013
Tippy wrote:
<quoted text>It is also shotguns and hand guns.
WASHINGTON ó California Democratic Sen. Dianne Feinstein staged a dramatic press conference Thursday on Capitol Hill with 10 weapons at her side and unveiled legislation instituting a government ban on more than 150 types of firearms, including rifles, pistols and shotguns.
Flanked by other anti-gun liberal lawmakers, including New York Sen. Chuck Schumer and Illinois Sen. Dick Durbin, Feinstein announced the introduction of the ďAssault Weapons Ban of 2013.Ē
Not going after your pistols, at least not all of them. The list was very specific, and you are acting like it is all rifles shotguns and handguns. That is intellectually dishonest. Same with those Chicago lies the NRA has you all spouting off. It is as easy as driving a couple of hours and purchasing any weapon you want. That's the reason we need to make everyone transferring a gun to do a background check. Private sale or gun dealer it shouldn't matter. We need to make a national registry for these types of weapons already out there. Also, make a list of all the people involuntarily institutionalized. There are many little things that might actually save lives. Real lives of real people. Not pretend lives of paranoid Rambo mothers that think the government is coming for them. Get real people!
Ignorance

Fairmont, WV

#10932 Jan 27, 2013
-Earl- wrote:
<quoted text>
The recent shootings happened because of the modern Leftist Culture that has been busy removing all sembalance of personal responsibility and respect from our lives. Your President even said this is not a christian nation. It started at the top. If children are not punished at home or school by law what can you expect?? We have done this to ourselves.
There are no facts in your statement. We don't live in a Christian nation. What makes you think that you are the one that decides what is right. It is nonsense. You are ridiculous.

Since: Dec 12

Location hidden

#10933 Jan 27, 2013
A 2004 critical review of research on firearms by a National Research Council panel also noted that academic studies of the assault weapon ban "did not reveal any clear impacts on gun violence" and noted "due to the fact that the relative rarity with which the banned guns were used in crime before the ban ... the maximum potential effect of the ban on gun violence outcomes would be very small...."

In 2004, a research report submitted to the United States Department of Justice and the National Institute of Justice found that should the ban be renewed, its effects on gun violence would likely be small, and perhaps too small for reliable measurement, because rifles in general, including rifles referred to as "assault rifles" or "assault weapons", are rarely used in gun crimes. That study by Christopher S. Koper, Daniel J. Woods, and Jeffrey A. Roth of the Jerry Lee Center of Criminology, University of Pennsylvania found no statistically significant evidence that either the assault weapons ban or the ban on magazines holding more than 10 rounds had reduced gun murders.

Since: Dec 12

Location hidden

#10934 Jan 27, 2013
Ignorance wrote:
<quoted text> The ban on handguns in Chicago was thrown out in 2010. A quote for you from someone from Chicago. They might have more of a clue about gun violence since they have to witness it.ď'Thereís just way too many guns in this city,' Police Superintendent Garry McCarthy said at a press conference last week.'Thereís way too many guns in the state of Illinois. And itís one of those situations that if we donít do something about it Ė and everything we do matters--if we donít do something about it, itís just going to continue at the rate that it is.'" Too many guns? Is that what he said? I thought no one had any guns there. I mean that's what I've been told by my NRA talking points memo. You are completely devoid of facts. All you have is rhetoric. You are a pussyboy. Go polish your big guns and dream of having a normal sized penis.
Thanks for proving my point. Guns laws are useless because criminals dont follow them. Now go back to your moms basement and cower in the corner waiting for the government to save you. Maybe we can ban shadows so you might leave your house? Grow a pair and stop being such a scared little sissy.
hope

Huntington, WV

#10935 Jan 27, 2013
Ignorance wrote:
<quoted text> You act like I am not concerned or aware of any of that. I do what I can. I donate not only money but time to many causes. The discussion was about an assault weapons ban. I would gladly engage in a conversation about saving lives around the world. Also, my first two sentences in the post you to which you replied were ambiguous. I wasn't saying ATVs murdered kids.
lol yeah, atvs cant murder people. i'm silly.

i think we should discuss worldly problems. and that's probably the most we can do to help solve those problems. Acknowledgment is the most i can do. i would love to move there and physically help, but i am poor, but what i can do is bring awareness,getting mainstream america to face and recognize, then maybe they will be moved to spread the word. hopefully someday when enough people care...boom!, our nation will wake up! We will say "oh this is unethical, we're jerkoffs for not helping sooner." (we can mobilize as a group and demand change,americans rule the world, it's our responsibility to seek justice.)
psycho

Ravenswood, WV

#10936 Jan 27, 2013
hope wrote:
<quoted text>
lol yeah, atvs cant murder people. i'm silly.
i think we should discuss worldly problems. and that's probably the most we can do to help solve those problems. Acknowledgment is the most i can do. i would love to move there and physically help, but i am poor, but what i can do is bring awareness,getting mainstream america to face and recognize, then maybe they will be moved to spread the word. hopefully someday when enough people care...boom!, our nation will wake up! We will say "oh this is unethical, we're jerkoffs for not helping sooner." (we can mobilize as a group and demand change,americans rule the world, it's our responsibility to seek justice.)
screw the world stay home and take care of ourselves. you freaken moron mouth breather
Retired RR

Bluefield, WV

#10937 Jan 27, 2013
psycho wrote:
<quoted text>screw the world stay home and take care of ourselves. you freaken moron mouth breather
You forgot to say smoke dope while your staying at home!
flyaway

Ripley, WV

#10938 Jan 27, 2013
When is all this mess going to end?
Tippy

Alexandria, VA

#10939 Jan 27, 2013
Assault weapon and any kind of bans on guns is a waste of time.
Law abiding citizens won't shoot anybody anyway and criminal killers do not give a crap about a ban.
If they are going to kill people it's not likely they care about liberals little freedom grabbing rules.

The problem is too many nutcases on the streets. Nutcases dont care about bans or restrictions.

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#10940 Jan 27, 2013
Ignorant-in Fairmont=

though some of what you said is true/ vaild -you seem to cherry pick only portions which serve your very singular/narrow view..believe it or not, the pie is bigger than just your slice..

the 2nd ammendment was also intended to protect the citizenry from tryanical govt-whether it's own govt or another intruding govt. One of the reasons America was founded in the first place escaping British tyranny/taxation/persecution,e tc

Hitler took all the guns out of prewar Germany-disarming the public. And, hid behind the children to spread his propagandic agenda-and even formed national socialists youth groups- where kids were programmed to rat on their parents if they disobeyed the fuhrers/emporers agenda. Nearly, the whole country became brainwashed by this propgand-because they, too, were promised free stuff-a volkswagon for everyone-Hiel Hitler! the sheeplike, unarmed population swooned over the mad man and his promises of shared economic prosperity.what a con?

Our govt will/has used lethal force on unarmed US citizens-Kent State-white college kids protesting VietNam. The city of Philadelphia swat team blew up nearly a city block of a black group for not cutting their grass and smoking too much weed..killing many innocent people

Its really easy to control people, even law abiding citizens who are not armed-even kill them-and then spread some factoid propaganda putting the blame on the un armed-as the govt largely controls the general media-if it wants to.

"The last refuge of scoundrels is to hide behind the children"

Taking law abiding citizens arms away is just another step closer to a more gradual slippage of govt abuse of the citizens...law abiding citizens are not the problem
People who should not have arms are the problem-nothing is 100% certain-but criminals and Mental cases should not have access to guns

That said I am in favor of background checks -to help keep the guns less easliy available to cons or mentally disturbed people,

Aotomobiles, injure and kill more people than guns ever do-Shouldwe ban cars??

Debate is good. It is what this site is about-name calling is so juvenile.
Ignorance

Fairmont, WV

#10941 Jan 27, 2013
cherokee mountain lady wrote:
Ignorant-in Fairmont=
though some of what you said is true/ vaild -you seem to cherry pick only portions which serve your very singular/narrow view..believe it or not, the pie is bigger than just your slice..
the 2nd ammendment was also intended to protect the citizenry from tryanical govt-whether it's own govt or another intruding govt. One of the reasons America was founded in the first place escaping British tyranny/taxation/persecution,e tc
Hitler took all the guns out of prewar Germany-disarming the public. And, hid behind the children to spread his propagandic agenda-and even formed national socialists youth groups- where kids were programmed to rat on their parents if they disobeyed the fuhrers/emporers agenda. Nearly, the whole country became brainwashed by this propgand-because they, too, were promised free stuff-a volkswagon for everyone-Hiel Hitler! the sheeplike, unarmed population swooned over the mad man and his promises of shared economic prosperity.what a con?
Our govt will/has used lethal force on unarmed US citizens-Kent State-white college kids protesting VietNam. The city of Philadelphia swat team blew up nearly a city block of a black group for not cutting their grass and smoking too much weed..killing many innocent people
Its really easy to control people, even law abiding citizens who are not armed-even kill them-and then spread some factoid propaganda putting the blame on the un armed-as the govt largely controls the general media-if it wants to.
"The last refuge of scoundrels is to hide behind the children"
Taking law abiding citizens arms away is just another step closer to a more gradual slippage of govt abuse of the citizens...law abiding citizens are not the problem
People who should not have arms are the problem-nothing is 100% certain-but criminals and Mental cases should not have access to guns
That said I am in favor of background checks -to help keep the guns less easliy available to cons or mentally disturbed people,
Aotomobiles, injure and kill more people than guns ever do-Shouldwe ban cars??
Debate is good. It is what this site is about-name calling is so juvenile.
Guns aren't cars. Cars serve a vital role in daily life. They are dangerous and we have a lot of laws regarding there use. I am so sick of the slippery slope argument. It isn't going to happen. We live in a new era. People 35 and younger think differently than the older population. Also, the Hitler stuff is complete nonsense. I couldn't say it any better than Alex Seitz-Wald from salon.org . http://www.salon.com/2013/01/11/stop_talking_... Maybe it's generational. I hope we can get a lot done in the next 12 years. Obama's second term and Biden's two terms as well. Republicans are going the way of the Whigs. I'm Native American as well. So let's not be too mean to one another.

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