Since: May 09

Location hidden

#41091 Jul 18, 2013
TSF wrote:
Giving kids paper and pen does not guarantee success . But failing to give them paper, pen and books certainly guarantees failure. Failure of the public schools has become an objective of the republican party in NC because: 1. its expense and 2. because educated people are less likely to fall for the BS republican propaganda. Their goal is getting closer to achievement through underfunding. Benjamin Franklin astutely observed that one can never pull himself up by pulling others down. Killing education for the masses will not improve anything for our nation. It will only increase the dependency of those unable to care for themselves and drag society down with crime, insurrection, disease etc.. Let them Eat Cake philosophy has been tried before with disastrous results. There are not enough cops to insulate the haves from the have nots. I have always been pretty much a law abiding citizen, but do not imagine that I would starve knowing that you have food.
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It's not a question of funding. We spend more money per student in this country than any other nation. Yet, our students under perform. A big part of this problem is cultural. We have far too many single parent households most of which are headed by unmarried women. The stigma of illegitimacy has disappeared. Children from single parent households are at a distinct disadvantage but we continue to make it easy for people to have children they are not equipped to rear.
Bulldog

Lenoir, NC

#41092 Jul 18, 2013
TSF wrote:
Giving paper and pencil to indigent elementary children is unlikely to teach slothfulness. NOT giving them education most certainly will encourage ignorance, poverty, squalor , intolerance and hopelessness. Trying to get the ignorant to understand the importance of education to our future is kind of like trying to teach pigs to sing.
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No one said anything about NOT giving anyone an education. Giving SOME, materials that others are REQUIRED to furnish for themselves does what??? What is the "mindset" that walks away from that? Ever seen kids teased for receiving the free lunch program? We are talking about kids and they can be very cruel to each other. What does that teach?

“physics is your friend”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#41093 Jul 18, 2013
Robert Stowe wrote:
<quoted text>It's not a question of funding. We spend more money per student in this country than any other nation. Yet, our students under perform. A big part of this problem is cultural. We have far too many single parent households most of which are headed by unmarried women. The stigma of illegitimacy has disappeared. Children from single parent households are at a distinct disadvantage but we continue to make it easy for people to have children they are not equipped to rear.
The cultural scene in America is often overlooked.Kids are all"winners"now no matter how badly they underperform.Foreign students are no longer worried about competing against American students.Frankly we are no longer competitive except in texting.
TSF

Cameron, NC

#41094 Jul 18, 2013
I agree that the funding provided could be used more effectively and much more efficiently. Nationally, for every 39 teachers actually teaching children, there are 61 administrative and support personnel. The money given to the army of superintendents, assistant superintendents, associate superintendents, curriculum supervisors, coordinators, purchasing agents, drop out prevention councilors, etc, all making 100K + salaries + expenses + bonuses+ travel+ cars+++ should be directed toward the needed supplies and teachers. Most of the public has only seen the highly visible and underpaid teachers and have not a clue about even the existence of the high paid fluff found in administration.
Even so, NC remains near the bottom of the heap in per student funding. The NC republican race to the bottom is becoming reality.
Robert Stowe wrote:
<quoted text>It's not a question of funding. We spend more money per student in this country than any other nation. Yet, our students under perform. A big part of this problem is cultural. We have far too many single parent households most of which are headed by unmarried women. The stigma of illegitimacy has disappeared. Children from single parent households are at a distinct disadvantage but we continue to make it easy for people to have children they are not equipped to rear.
commucrat

Charlotte, NC

#41095 Jul 18, 2013
Robert Stowe wrote:
<quoted text>It's not a question of funding. We spend more money per student in this country than any other nation. Yet, our students under perform. A big part of this problem is cultural. We have far too many single parent households most of which are headed by unmarried women. The stigma of illegitimacy has disappeared. Children from single parent households are at a distinct disadvantage but we continue to make it easy for people to have children they are not equipped to rear.
Let's see. Do you think that a 55% divorce rate may also factor into single parent households? Curtural? What culture?
waco1909

Lenoir, NC

#41096 Jul 18, 2013
commucrat wrote:
<quoted text>
Let's see. Do you think that a 55% divorce rate may also factor into single parent households? Curtural? What culture?
OK, that may be true, but the real question here is will you allow your peter to explore inside my rear end and mouth? And what the hell is the word Curtural? Your spelling is awful!!!!!
Bulldog

Lenoir, NC

#41097 Jul 18, 2013
Last June, lawmakers passed a biennial state budget that included $7.44 billion for K-12 public schools for
the 2012-13 school year.

on:
How many teachers could a
school district buy with $1 million?
Answer:
21
The total operating revenue for the
NC Education Lottery in 2010-11 was $1,464,640,000. Currently,
about 30 percent of that revenue goes to education. Yet, even
if the NC Education Lottery gave ALL of its revenue to schools,
it would only cover about 19 percent of the state’s total budget
for K-12 public schools
.ncpublicschools.org/docs/budg et/communication/budgetguide.p df
»
Among the top 11 participating education systems in the
world for 4th & 8th grade math scores on the 2011 Trends
in International Mathematics and Science Study (TIMSS)
»
36th in SAT scores
»
22nd in ACT scores
»
21st in the percentage of seniors who took at
least 1 Advanced Placement exam in high school
»
12th in 4th grade math, according to the National
Assessment of Educational Progress (NAEP)
»
24th in 4th grade reading, according to NAEP
»
22nd in 8th grade math, according to NAEP
»
34th in 8th grade reading, according to NAEP
»
Among the bottom 10 states in per pupil funding
»
41st in teacher pay (2010-11 school year
commucrat

Charlotte, NC

#41098 Jul 18, 2013
waco1909 wrote:
<quoted text>OK, that may be true, but the real question here is will you allow your peter to explore inside my rear end and mouth? And what the hell is the word Curtural? Your spelling is awful!!!!!
My spelling is indeed horrible. Your vulgar language is so much worse. Besides, since I am a female, I do not have one of those objects that you desire for sexual pleasure. Sorry. You can probably find one in the gutter where you live if you look hard enough. Good luck.

“We stole the Statue of Liberty”

Since: Jul 13

Location hidden

#41099 Jul 18, 2013
Have we landed yet

“physics is your friend”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#41100 Jul 18, 2013
In an America where everyone is a"winner", its no wonder American students can't compete with foreign students.The ability to compete has been bred our of our students.
waco1909

Lenoir, NC

#41101 Jul 18, 2013
commucrat wrote:
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My spelling is indeed horrible. Your vulgar language is so much worse. Besides, since I am a female, I do not have one of those objects that you desire for sexual pleasure. Sorry. You can probably find one in the gutter where you live if you look hard enough. Good luck.
I'm bisexual,bipolar and sometimes homeless,I did not know you were a female.How about putting on a strap-on,that will work just fine with me for my sexual gratification.I'm looking hard for your strap-on hard-on!
TSF

Cameron, NC

#41102 Jul 18, 2013
Not bad in the context that NC is 48 th in per student expenditure.
Looks like we are getting our money's worth and then some.
Bulldog wrote:
Last June, lawmakers passed a biennial state budget that included $7.44 billion for K-12 public schools for
the 2012-13 school year.
on:
How many teachers could a
school district buy with $1 million?
Answer:
21
The total operating revenue for the
NC Education Lottery in 2010-11 was $1,464,640,000. Currently,
about 30 percent of that revenue goes to education. Yet, even
if the NC Education Lottery gave ALL of its revenue to schools,
it would only cover about 19 percent of the state’s total budget
for K-12 public schools
.ncpublicschools.org/docs/budg et/communication/budgetguide.p df
»
Among the top 11 participating education systems in the
world for 4th & 8th grade math scores on the 2011 Trends
in International Mathematics and Science Study (TIMSS)
»
36th in SAT scores
»
22nd in ACT scores
»
21st in the percentage of seniors who took at
least 1 Advanced Placement exam in high school
»
12th in 4th grade math, according to the National
Assessment of Educational Progress (NAEP)
»
24th in 4th grade reading, according to NAEP
»
22nd in 8th grade math, according to NAEP
»
34th in 8th grade reading, according to NAEP
»
Among the bottom 10 states in per pupil funding
»
41st in teacher pay (2010-11 school year
TSF

Cameron, NC

#41103 Jul 18, 2013
I think the republikan race to the bottom now has NC teacher pay as 47 th. Republikans would have achieved their objective of bottom were it not for backward states like Mississippi and West Virginia.

“physics is your friend”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#41104 Jul 18, 2013
The USA spends about 10888 dollars per pupil.Japan spends 8700 and South Korea 6700.The students of both countries handily outperform American students.So,TSF, shall we merely throw money at our students our should we be a bit more resourceful?
Bulldog

Lenoir, NC

#41105 Jul 18, 2013
After World War II, the United States had the #1 high school graduation rate in the world. Today, we have dropped to # 22 among 27 industrialized nations.(OECD, 2012)
American students rank 25th in math, 17th in science and 14th in reading compared to students in 27 industrialized countries.(OECD, 2012)
By the end of the eighth-grade, U.S. students are two years behind in math compared to their peers in other countries.(OECD, 2009)
The U.S. ranks behind 13 other countries in terms of the percentage of 25-34 year-olds who have completed some college coursework.(OECD, 2012)
American students tend to perform worse in math and science as they age, according to recent studies measuring fourth- and eighth-graders' academic achievement against other industrialized nations. Gaps with high performing countries like South Korea and Singapore are widening.(TIMSS, 2012)
Bulldog

Lenoir, NC

#41106 Jul 18, 2013
For the first time, most Americans think it is unlikely that today’s youth will have a better life than their parents.(Gallup poll, 2011)
American social mobility is increasingly becoming a thing of the past. Nearly two-thirds of children born to parents in the bottom income quintile remain stuck in the lowest two quintiles as adults.(Haskins, Ron (February 2008). "Education and Economic Mobility". In Isaacs, Julia B.; Sawhill, Isabel V.; Haskins, Ron. Getting Ahead or Losing Ground: Economic Mobility in America. Brookings Institution.)
Only 4 percent of Americans raised at the bottom of the economic ladder will rise to the top as adults.(“Pursuing the American Dream: Economic Mobility Across Generations; Pew Charitable Trusts, July, 2012.)
Nearly two-thirds of African-Americans who grew up in middle class families will fall to the lower rungs as adults.(“Pursuing the American Dream: Economic Mobility Across Generations; Pew Charitable Trusts, July, 2012.)
Public schools in other countries are more of a lever for social mobility that help children of all backgrounds realize their potential than they are in the U.S.(OECD, June, Education at a Glance, 2012)
The health of typical high school dropout, by age 18, is similar to that of a more educated person in his 40s.(College Board Advocacy & Policy Center, 2010)
White men with four years of college live 14.2 years longer than black men who drop out of high school. White women with college degrees live 10.3 years longer than black female high school dropouts.(Olshansky, et al., 2012)
allen martel ho michelle

Lenoir, NC

#41107 Jul 18, 2013
waco1909 wrote:
<quoted text>OK, that may be true, but the real question here is will you allow your peter to explore inside my rear end and mouth? And what the hell is the word Curtural? Your spelling is awful!!!!!
yes im at it again,pretending to be waco .....all i can think of is waco....he cant ignore me now...
allen martel ho michelle

Lenoir, NC

#41108 Jul 18, 2013
commucrat wrote:
<quoted text>
My spelling is indeed horrible. Your vulgar language is so much worse. Besides, since I am a female, I do not have one of those objects that you desire for sexual pleasure. Sorry. You can probably find one in the gutter where you live if you look hard enough. Good luck.
yep .still pretending to be waco.he thinks he can ignore me.Imay be four hundred pounds but I still need the love of waco.
TSF

Cameron, NC

#41109 Jul 18, 2013
One difference is tracking. Most foreign countries rate student performance and abilities and direct them toward specific goals which seem reasonable for that student. By 6 grade, most foreign students have been divided into achademic schools and trade schools to accommodate differences in individual abilities. Parents and students realize that education is an investment in the child's future as well as their society's future.
US schools are forced by the PC forces to pretend all students are equal in intelligence and ability and God forbid that we would label someone or treat them differently. The result is talented students are bored silly by the "average" instruction level and slow students are frustrated silly by the inability to keep up. Parents lie and make excuses for their children and then blame teachers for not performing miracles with the little darling reprobates. Drunken and drugged parents rage and argue all night and then are baffled at their child's inability to pay attention at school. All the problems of society become someone else's fault. Damn, it must be the schools.
We can afford to send trillions of dollars in foreign aid but we cannot afford to even educate our own children? WTF is wrong with you people?
waco1909 wrote:
The USA spends about 10888 dollars per pupil.Japan spends 8700 and South Korea 6700.The students of both countries handily outperform American students.So,TSF, shall we merely throw money at our students our should we be a bit more resourceful?
TSF

Cameron, NC

#41110 Jul 18, 2013
Here is a partial list of your annual gifts to foreign governments, despots and tyrants. So you want to save money by stealing from your kids education?

Hamas -$351 M,

Libya $1.45 B,

Egypt -$397 M,

Mexico -$622 M,

Russia -$380 M,

Haiti -$1.4 B,

Jordan -$463 M,

Kenya -$816 M,

Sudan -$870 M,

Nigeria -$456 M,

Uganda -$451 M,

Congo -$359 M,

Ethiopia -$981 M,

Pakistan -$2 B,

South Africa -$566 M,

Senegal -$698 M,

Mozambique -$404 M,

Zambia -$331 M,

Kazakhstan -$304 M,

Iraq -$1.08 B,

Tanzania -$554 M,

...with literally Billions of Dollars

and they still hate us!!!!

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