TSF

Winterville, NC

#39405 Apr 11, 2013
The defining sentence in all this is "
Boehner distributed campaign contributions from tobacco industry lobbyists on the House floor as House members were weighing how to vote on tobacco subsidies.[29] " IN OTHER WORDS, BOEHNER BRIBED CONGRESSMEN TO VOTE FOR GIVING US TAX DOLLARS TO TOBACCO COMPANIES (subsidies).
Now as for Clinton, republikans spent hundreds of millions of US tax dollars trying to get something on Clinton. The last 75 million dollars of our tax money finally proved the astounding information that Bill had lied about getting a BJ. I am not sure how that was so surprising because Southern gentlemen just do not kiss and tell. You are supposed to lie about stuff like that.
emlu wrote:
<quoted text>Been over this TSF, here's what happened, again: "In June 1995, Boehner distributed campaign contributions from tobacco industry lobbyists on the House floor as House members were weighing how to vote on tobacco subsidies.[29] In a 1996 documentary by PBS called The People and the Power Game, Boehner said "They asked me to give out a half dozen checks quickly before we got to the end of the month and I complied. And I did it on the House floor, which I regret. I should not have done. It's not a violation of the House rules, but it's a practice that‘s gone on here for a long time that we're trying to stop and I know I'll never do it again.[30] Boehner eventually led the effort to change House rules and prohibit campaign contributions from being distributed on the House floor.[31]" That's all you have from nearly twenty years ago. Here's something from the other side: The Whitewater controversy (also called the Whitewater scandal, or simply Whitewater) began with investigations into the real estate investments of Bill and Hillary Clinton and their associates, Jim and Susan McDougal in the Whitewater Development Corporation, a failed business venture in the 1970s and 1980s.
A New York Times article written during the 1992 U.S. presidential campaign reported that Clinton and his wife had invested and lost money in the Whitewater development project.[1]
David Hale, the source of criminal allegations against President Clinton in the Whitewater affair, claimed in November 1993 that Clinton, while governor of Arkansas, pressured him to provide an illegal $300,000 loan to Susan McDougal, the partner of the Clintons in the Whitewater land deal.[2] Clinton supporters regarded Hale's allegations as questionable, as Hale had not mentioned Clinton in reference to this loan during the original FBI investigation of Madison Guaranty in 1989. Only after coming under indictment for this in 1993 did Hale make allegations against the Clintons.[3]
A U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission investigation did result in convictions against the McDougals for their role in the Whitewater project, but the Clintons themselves were never prosecuted, as three separate inquiries found insufficient evidence linking them with the criminal conduct of others related to the land deal.[4] Bill Clinton's successor as Arkansas Governor, Jim Guy Tucker, was also convicted and served time in prison for his role in the fraud. Susan McDougal later served 18 months in prison for contempt of court for refusing to answer any questions relating to Whitewater, and was later granted a pardon by President Clinton just before leaving office.
The term Whitewater is also sometimes used to include other controversies from the Bill Clinton administration, especially those such as Travelgate, Filegate, and the circumstances surrounding Vince Foster's death, that were investigated by the Whitewater Independent Counsel.[5]

“Arch Nemisis of Democrats”

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#39406 Apr 11, 2013
TSF wrote:
<quoted text>The defining sentence in all this is "
Boehner distributed campaign contributions from tobacco industry lobbyists on the House floor as House members were weighing how to vote on tobacco subsidies.[29] " IN OTHER WORDS, BOEHNER BRIBED CONGRESSMEN TO VOTE FOR GIVING US TAX DOLLARS TO TOBACCO COMPANIES (subsidies).
Now as for Clinton, republikans spent hundreds of millions of US tax dollars trying to get something on Clinton. The last 75 million dollars of our tax money finally proved the astounding information that Bill had lied about getting a BJ. I am not sure how that was so surprising because Southern gentlemen just do not kiss and tell. You are supposed to lie about stuff like that.
I see what your saying, only republicans distribute campaign funds, as they are supposed to by rules governing campaigns, to the Republican Party members.

Who would have guessed a politician actually following the rules.
emlu

Lenoir, NC

#39407 Apr 11, 2013
Eric Harris age 17 (first on Zoloft then Luvox) and Dylan Klebold aged 18 (Columbine school shooting in Littleton, Colorado), killed 12 students and 1 teacher, and wounded 23 others, before killing themselves. Klebold’s medical records have never been made available to the public.
Jeff Weise, age 16, had been prescribed 60 mg/day of Prozac (three times the average starting dose for adults!) when he shot his grandfather, his grandfather’s girlfriend and many fellow students at Red Lake, Minnesota. He then shot himself. 10 dead, 12 wounded.
Cory Baadsgaard, age 16, Wahluke (Washington state) High School, was on Paxil (which caused him to have hallucinations) when he took a rifle to his high school and held 23 classmates hostage. He has no memory of the event.
Chris Fetters, age 13, killed his favorite aunt while taking Prozac.
Christopher Pittman, age 12, murdered both his grandparents while taking Zoloft.
Mathew Miller, age 13, hung himself in his bedroom closet after taking Zoloft for 6 days.
Kip Kinkel, age 15,(on Prozac and Ritalin) shot his parents while they slept then went to school and opened fire killing 2 classmates and injuring 22 shortly after beginning Prozac treatment.
Luke Woodham, age 16 (Prozac) killed his mother and then killed two students, wounding six others.
A boy in Pocatello, ID (Zoloft) in 1998 had a Zoloft-induced seizure that caused an armed stand off at his school.
Michael Carneal (Ritalin), age 14, opened fire on students at a high school prayer meeting in West Paducah, Kentucky. Three teenagers were killed, five others were wounded..
A young man in Huntsville, Alabama (Ritalin) went psychotic chopping up his parents with an ax and also killing one sibling and almost murdering another.
Andrew Golden, age 11,(Ritalin) and Mitchell Johnson, aged 14,(Ritalin) shot 15 people, killing four students, one teacher, and wounding 10 others.
TJ Solomon, age 15,(Ritalin) high school student in Conyers, Georgia opened fire on and wounded six of his class mates.
Rod Mathews, age 14,(Ritalin) beat a classmate to death with a bat.
James Wilson, age 19,(various psychiatric drugs) from Breenwood, South Carolina, took a .22 caliber revolver into an elementary school killing two young girls, and wounding seven other children and two teachers.

Read more at Ammoland.com : http://www.ammoland.com/2013/04/every-mass-sh...
emlu

Lenoir, NC

#39409 Apr 11, 2013
Elizabeth Bush, age 13,(Paxil) was responsible for a school shooting in Pennsylvania
Jason Hoffman (Effexor and Celexa)– school shooting in El Cajon, California
Jarred Viktor, age 15,(Paxil), after five days on Paxil he stabbed his grandmother 61 times.
Chris Shanahan, age 15 (Paxil) in Rigby, ID who out of the blue killed a woman.
Jeff Franklin (Prozac and Ritalin), Huntsville, AL, killed his parents as they came home from work using a sledge hammer, hatchet, butcher knife and mechanic’s file, then attacked his younger brothers and sister.
Neal Furrow (Prozac) in LA Jewish school shooting reported to have been court-ordered to be on Prozac along with several other medications.
Kevin Rider, age 14, was withdrawing from Prozac when he died from a gunshot wound to his head. Initially it was ruled a suicide, but two years later, the investigation into his death was opened as a possible homicide. The prime suspect, also age 14, had been taking Zoloft and other SSRI antidepressants.
Alex Kim, age 13, hung himself shortly after his Lexapro prescription had been doubled.
Diane Routhier was prescribed Welbutrin for gallstone problems. Six days later, after suffering many adverse effects of the drug, she shot herself.
Billy Willkomm, an accomplished wrestler and a University of Florida student, was prescribed Prozac at the age of 17. His family found him dead of suicide – hanging from a tall ladder at the family’s Gulf Shore Boulevard home in July 2002.
Kara Jaye Anne Fuller-Otter, age 12, was on Paxil when she hung herself from a hook in her closet. Kara’s parents said “…. the damn doctor wouldn’t take her off it and I asked him to when we went in on the second visit. I told him I thought she was having some sort of reaction to Paxil…”)
emlu

Lenoir, NC

#39410 Apr 11, 2013
Gareth Christian, Vancouver, age 18, was on Paxil when he committed suicide in 2002,
(Gareth’s father could not accept his son’s death and killed himself.)
Julie Woodward, age 17, was on Zoloft when she hung herself in her family’s detached garage.
Matthew Miller was 13 when he saw a psychiatrist because he was having difficulty at school. The psychiatrist gave him samples of Zoloft. Seven days later his mother found him dead, hanging by a belt from a laundry hook in his closet.
Kurt Danysh, age 18, and on Prozac, killed his father with a shotgun. He is now behind prison bars, and writes letters, trying to warn the world that SSRI drugs can kill.
Woody ____, age 37, committed suicide while in his 5th week of taking Zoloft. Shortly before his death his physician suggested doubling the dose of the drug. He had seen his physician only for insomnia. He had never been depressed, nor did he have any history of any mental illness symptoms.
A boy from Houston, age 10, shot and killed his father after his Prozac dosage was increased.
Hammad Memon, age 15, shot and killed a fellow middle school student. He had been diagnosed with ADHD and depression and was taking Zoloft and “other drugs for the conditions.”
Matti Saari, a 22-year-old culinary student, shot and killed 9 students and a teacher, and wounded another student, before killing himself. Saari was taking an SSRI and a benzodiazapine.
Steven Kazmierczak, age 27, shot and killed five people and wounded 21 others before killing himself in a Northern Illinois University auditorium. According to his girlfriend, he had recently been taking Prozac, Xanax and Ambien. Toxicology results showed that he still had trace amounts of Xanax in his system.
emlu

Lenoir, NC

#39411 Apr 11, 2013
Finnish gunman Pekka-Eric Auvinen, age 18, had been taking antidepressants before he killed eight people and wounded a dozen more at Jokela High School – then he committed suicide.
Asa Coon from Cleveland, age 14, shot and wounded four before taking his own life. Court records show Coon was on Trazodone.
Jon Romano, age 16, on medication for depression, fired a shotgun at a teacher in his
New York high school.

Missing from list… 3 of 4 known to have taken these same meds….

What drugs was Jared Lee Loughner on, age 21…… killed 6 people and injuring 14 others in Tuscon, Az
What drugs was James Eagan Holmes on, age 24….. killed 12 people and injuring 59 others in Aurora Colorado
What drugs was Jacob Tyler Roberts on, age 22, killed 2 injured 1, Clackamas Or
What drugs was Adam Peter Lanza on, age 20, Killed 26 and wounded 2 in Newtown Ct

comments???
emlu

Lenoir, NC

#39412 Apr 11, 2013
Yes, I guess whoever judges this "clueless" is correct. I see no connection between the tragedies listed here and the mental health system, school systems, and society in general. I guess we should all go take a pill, go sit in a corner and wait for the effects. If you believe that I have some ocean front property on Grandfather Mountain to sell ya....CHEAP. This is a very serious problem that the entire country should look at because every day someone's child is looked at by someone who thinks a pill will "cure" them.
TSF

Winterville, NC

#39413 Apr 11, 2013
I see the problem. Its clearly all the fault of teachers and schools. They are also responsible for unemployment, the national debt, the deficit, high gas prices , a disfunctional congress,global warming and the Bengazi attack. Eliminatation of public schools will fix it all..
emlu wrote:
Yes, I guess whoever judges this "clueless" is correct. I see no connection between the tragedies listed here and the mental health system, school systems, and society in general. I guess we should all go take a pill, go sit in a corner and wait for the effects. If you believe that I have some ocean front property on Grandfather Mountain to sell ya....CHEAP. This is a very serious problem that the entire country should look at because every day someone's child is looked at by someone who thinks a pill will "cure" them.

“physics is your friend”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#39414 Apr 11, 2013
emlu wrote:
Yes, I guess whoever judges this "clueless" is correct. I see no connection between the tragedies listed here and the mental health system, school systems, and society in general. I guess we should all go take a pill, go sit in a corner and wait for the effects. If you believe that I have some ocean front property on Grandfather Mountain to sell ya....CHEAP. This is a very serious problem that the entire country should look at because every day someone's child is looked at by someone who thinks a pill will "cure" them.
Allen/Gail,a nut with too much time on her hands, always judges peoples posts, the ones who don't kiss her ass, in a negative fashion.I quit taking their drugs when I finally came to the conclusion that psych drugs do more harm than good, but a lot of people are making a lot of money off of them.Psych drugs are big business.Look at how many kids are now being diagnosed as"adhd".Some people, like Allen/Gail , could benefit from a strait jacket though.Or a good ass kicking.

“physics is your friend”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#39415 Apr 11, 2013
TSF wrote:
I see the problem. Its clearly all the fault of teachers and schools. They are also responsible for unemployment, the national debt, the deficit, high gas prices , a disfunctional congress,global warming and the Bengazi attack. Eliminatation of public schools will fix it all..
<quoted text>
you're getting as bad as Mike.How did you connect psych drugs and their proliferation with the points in her post?

“physics is your friend”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#39416 Apr 11, 2013
emlu wrote:
Finnish gunman Pekka-Eric Auvinen, age 18, had been taking antidepressants before he killed eight people and wounded a dozen more at Jokela High School – then he committed suicide.
Asa Coon from Cleveland, age 14, shot and wounded four before taking his own life. Court records show Coon was on Trazodone.
Jon Romano, age 16, on medication for depression, fired a shotgun at a teacher in his
New York high school.
Missing from list… 3 of 4 known to have taken these same meds….
What drugs was Jared Lee Loughner on, age 21…… killed 6 people and injuring 14 others in Tuscon, Az
What drugs was James Eagan Holmes on, age 24….. killed 12 people and injuring 59 others in Aurora Colorado
What drugs was Jacob Tyler Roberts on, age 22, killed 2 injured 1, Clackamas Or
What drugs was Adam Peter Lanza on, age 20, Killed 26 and wounded 2 in Newtown Ct
comments???
Better living through chemicals? The drug companies control America.Check out the side effects on these drugs.Horrendous.Also unknown to the general public, anyone on psych drugs who suddenly discontinues them, is headed for the emergency room.The chemicals they put in our food are a major contributory to the cancer rate in America, and Alzheimers disease is skyrocketing. In 1950, almost no one in America weighed over three hundred pounds.Now, its commonplace.The food we consume is trash.
Bunky

Atlanta, GA

#39417 Apr 11, 2013
emlu wrote:
Yes, I guess whoever judges this "clueless" is correct. I see no connection between the tragedies listed here and the mental health system, school systems, and society in general. I guess we should all go take a pill, go sit in a corner and wait for the effects. If you believe that I have some ocean front property on Grandfather Mountain to sell ya....CHEAP. This is a very serious problem that the entire country should look at because every day someone's child is looked at by someone who thinks a pill will "cure" them.
Take your azz on up out of here before I call the dam cops.

“physics is your friend”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#39418 Apr 11, 2013
TSF, do you have any comments on the drug companies in America, or the additives that are added to our food, or are you just in a"blame the republicans"mindset today?
Bunky

Atlanta, GA

#39419 Apr 11, 2013
waco1909 wrote:
<quoted text> you're getting as bad as Mike.How did you connect psych drugs and their proliferation with the points in her post?
Don't you know that allen, gail, TSF are one. These fools should go plant a tree. Go volunteer at a homeless shelter. Go shop for the elderly. Nah, maybe they shouldn't do that. I have a feelin they'd steal from the dam elderly.

“physics is your friend”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#39420 Apr 11, 2013
Bunky wrote:
<quoted text>
Take your azz on up out of here before I call the dam cops.
I'm your huckleberry.Com e and get me.Better be careful.I retaliate.
Bunky

Atlanta, GA

#39421 Apr 11, 2013
waco1909 wrote:
<quoted text> Better living through chemicals? The drug companies control America.Check out the side effects on these drugs.Horrendous.Also unknown to the general public, anyone on psych drugs who suddenly discontinues them, is headed for the emergency room.The chemicals they put in our food are a major contributory to the cancer rate in America, and Alzheimers disease is skyrocketing. In 1950, almost no one in America weighed over three hundred pounds.Now, its commonplace.The food we consume is trash.
It's best to be on the grape fruit diet. Most heavy people drink sodas. Sodas contribute to weight gain. If people stop drinking sodas for a year it is proven that you would lose 30lbs a year. It's not just the food we eat. Fast food places should be outlawed. Hell i'm tired of seeing over weight women and men can't breath cause they're too over weight. Instead of our government worring about this dam missile, that's going to tear Guam up all to hell. They should be out lawing these burger joints.
Bunky

Atlanta, GA

#39422 Apr 11, 2013
waco1909 wrote:
<quoted text> I'm your huckleberry.Com e and get me.Better be careful.I retaliate.
Wtf are you sayin? I'm talkin serious and you're having child hood flash backs.
Bunky

Atlanta, GA

#39423 Apr 11, 2013
waco1909 wrote:
TSF, do you have any comments on the drug companies in America, or the additives that are added to our food, or are you just in a"blame the republicans"mindset today?
There ain't a dam thing you can do to prevent what companies add to food. If they want to add ecoli, then we got it. If they want to add anthrax, then we got that too.

“physics is your friend”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#39424 Apr 11, 2013
Bunky wrote:
<quoted text>
Wtf are you sayin? I'm talkin serious and you're having child hood flash backs.
You think?
emlu

Lenoir, NC

#39425 Apr 11, 2013
Bunky wrote:
<quoted text>
Take your azz on up out of here before I call the dam cops.
Make me.

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