Who do you support for U.S. Senate in...
TSF

Clayton, NC

#38693 Mar 20, 2013
And I was under the belief that public schools in the US actually started with mostly Methodist preachers teaching in remote areas with an emphasis on religion but concentrated on reading, writing and arithmetic. I still cannot understand why Methodist preachers would want to propagate communism.
Taxpayer wrote:
Socialists, who were very active in the public school movement, began operating in America as early as 1829, before the word socialism was even invented. Now their movement has push to all out communism. Were government schools established because private society and families refused to educate the children, resulting in lifelong ignorance and illiteracy? Were the motives of the reformers pure, selfless and concerned only with the well-being of the children? Surely, after these reforms were in place, school attendance rose, illiteracy disappeared and the quality of education vastly improved. None of those things happened!
No, government schools were not established out of any dire need for them but rather for a variety of crass religious, political and economic motives. They were not immaculately conceived but rather were born out of a toxic stew of religious absolutism, Prussian militarism, utopian socialist leveling and special interest greed and power lust. The main point is that relations among people in government schools are coercive and involuntary. Those with legal power tell those without legal power what to do. Those without power have little choice but to comply. Slavery
TSF

Clayton, NC

#38694 Mar 20, 2013
Knowing something is considerably different from believing.
I know that God created the heavens and Earth. Mike doesn't believe that. Mike and I seem to agree that evolution has been the method by which life on Earth has developed. Mike doesn't believe that God guided that process. I know that he did. Mike could ask me for my proof. I have it. But I lack the words to communicate it to Mike or anyone. I think I understand why he keeps asking everyone for proof. He knows that it is impossible
for him to prove a negative (that God does not exist). The delima can never be settled for him until he knows.
waco1909 wrote:
<quoted text> I missed the part where it said atoms and molecules sprang from nothing.
TSF

Clayton, NC

#38695 Mar 20, 2013
This school answering machine message may help you understand public education better.

http://www.youtube.com/embed/Pwghabw4N80...
Taxpayer wrote:
Socialists, who were very active in the public school movement, began operating in America as early as 1829, before the word socialism was even invented. Now their movement has push to all out communism. Were government schools established because private society and families refused to educate the children, resulting in lifelong ignorance and illiteracy? Were the motives of the reformers pure, selfless and concerned only with the well-being of the children? Surely, after these reforms were in place, school attendance rose, illiteracy disappeared and the quality of education vastly improved. None of those things happened!
No, government schools were not established out of any dire need for them but rather for a variety of crass religious, political and economic motives. They were not immaculately conceived but rather were born out of a toxic stew of religious absolutism, Prussian militarism, utopian socialist leveling and special interest greed and power lust. The main point is that relations among people in government schools are coercive and involuntary. Those with legal power tell those without legal power what to do. Those without power have little choice but to comply. Slavery

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#38696 Mar 21, 2013
"VICIOUS CYCLES
Men Born to Single Moms Less Likely to Succeed, Find Partners
...prompting more women to choose single motherhood over unimpressive husbands"
From Politix: Duh, haven't seen enough of these stats???
Allen

Penrose, NC

#38697 Mar 21, 2013
emlu wrote:
Does anyone have an OPINION on the President of the United States going to Israel? Since he just said it was good to "get away from Congress".
No republican president has visited Israel in their first term. George W. Bush didn't visit until the eighth year of his presidency.

The only two US presidents to make an official state visit to Israel during their first term were Carter and Clinton.

Ronald Reagan and George H. Bush never visited Israel during their terms in office.

“Seek Light”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#38698 Mar 21, 2013
TSF wrote:
Knowing something is considerably different from believing.
I know that God created the heavens and Earth. Mike doesn't believe that. Mike and I seem to agree that evolution has been the method by which life on Earth has developed. Mike doesn't believe that God guided that process. I know that he did. Mike could ask me for my proof. I have it. But I lack the words to communicate it to Mike or anyone. I think I understand why he keeps asking everyone for proof. He knows that it is impossible
for him to prove a negative (that God does not exist). The delima can never be settled for him until he knows.
<quoted text>
The thing that Mike will never accept is that I have to believe in GOD.My very nature requires that I be a believer.Mike and his opinions on GOD have no effect on me, and my belief should have no effect on him, frankly.The man has called me every kind of idiot, because of my belief in GOD.Mike's extremely low opinion of believers, and me in particular, doesn't phase me at all, but it seems to me that he is incapable of accepting my beliefs, while I have no problem accepting his beliefs on GOD.And religion in general.My belief in GOD does not infringe on Mike's disbelief.I don't"look down"on Mike for being an atheist.I understand a lot of his attacks on religion.But, in my view, Mike is as inflexible in his beliefs as the most fanatical"religious fanatic".
Mike Duquette

Asheville, NC

#38699 Mar 21, 2013
waco1909 wrote:
<quoted text> So, you're"Mr.Evidence"h uh? So, according to you, the universe sprang into existence..from nothing? How very scientific.
When did I claim this?
Absolute nothing does not exist as far as science can measure.\
Try asking me what I really believe instead of regurgitating the typical religious propaganda.

I am out of town and again forgot my password. Note my MO.
Mike Duquette

Asheville, NC

#38700 Mar 21, 2013
emlu wrote:
<quoted text>My point was to invoke reaction from you and you did exactly what I knew you would. Offer no opinion to the article from an Israeli newspaper.
Why should I? You didn't.
Mike Duquette

Asheville, NC

#38701 Mar 21, 2013
emlu wrote:
<quoted text>Just wondering why he did not go the first term. This time he went with "his" peace plan to offer up. Now, do you have, an opinion on the peace plan. Today, would be nice, not three days from now when it's old news.
Do you have an opinion on anything including the peace plan?
As I said, you first.
Mike Duquette

Asheville, NC

#38702 Mar 21, 2013
waco1909 wrote:
<quoted text> I missed the part where it said atoms and molecules sprang from nothing.
Again, who is claim the universe came from nothing? Just because you believe magic man said abracadabra and it came from nothing does not mean science or I believe it came from nothing.
Mike Duquette

Asheville, NC

#38703 Mar 21, 2013
waco1909 wrote:
<quoted text> He'll have to read some liberal publications before he can arrive at a"conclusion".
So what is Emlu's excuse for not giving an opinion then?
Mike Duquette

Asheville, NC

#38704 Mar 21, 2013
waco1909 wrote:
<quoted text> The thing that Mike will never accept is that I have to believe in GOD.My very nature requires that I be a believer.Mike and his opinions on GOD have no effect on me, and my belief should have no effect on him, frankly.The man has called me every kind of idiot, because of my belief in GOD.Mike's extremely low opinion of believers, and me in particular, doesn't phase me at all, but it seems to me that he is incapable of accepting my beliefs, while I have no problem accepting his beliefs on GOD.And religion in general.My belief in GOD does not infringe on Mike's disbelief.I don't"look down"on Mike for being an atheist.I understand a lot of his attacks on religion.But, in my view, Mike is as inflexible in his beliefs as the most fanatical"religious fanatic".
Cry me a river.
Oh no, the atheist opposes my superstition. Am I forcing you to stop believing? Nope.
Of course my opinions have no effect on your beliefs. That is the definition of a fully closed mind. That is how religion has brainwashed you to keep opposing information from entering the logic part of your brain. Religion teaches you to close out what the non believers say.
You clearly just bought the story your parents taught you and now you refuse to question that story. Thanks for admitting your closed mindedness just as Bacon did on religion. See the trend?

Now show me some evidence and I will examine it from your side.

“Seek Light”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#38705 Mar 21, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Cry me a river.
Oh no, the atheist opposes my superstition. Am I forcing you to stop believing? Nope.
Of course my opinions have no effect on your beliefs. That is the definition of a fully closed mind. That is how religion has brainwashed you to keep opposing information from entering the logic part of your brain. Religion teaches you to close out what the non believers say.k
You clearly just bought the story your parents taught you and now you refuse to question that story. Thanks for admitting your closed mindedness just as Bacon did on religion. See the trend?
Now show me some evidence and I will examine it from your side.
My parents? You dumb shit, my parents didn't teach me religion.The only"trend"I see is your closed mind.Cry you a river? Boy, what you believe or think means not a damn thing to me.You must think I had a frigging"leave it to beaver"upbringing.I basically raised myself, and I'm proud of it.I'm not the superstitious jerk who thinks the universe"spontaneously appeared"out of nothing.

“Seek Light”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#38706 Mar 21, 2013
One other thing Mike.I don't need to show you any"evidence"of anything.I'm quite happy leaving your beliefs to you.Your happy being an atheist? If so, I think that's great for you.No sarcasm.
waco1909

Greenville, SC

#38707 Mar 21, 2013
emlu I can't find boy George's pee pee. The last time I saw it was on the end of my nose. Help me find it emlu. Mike keeps beating me up emlu and I need boy George's pee pee.

“Seek Light”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#38708 Mar 21, 2013
waco1909 wrote:
emlu I can't find boy George's pee pee. The last time I saw it was on the end of my nose. Help me find it emlu. Mike keeps beating me up emlu and I need boy George's pee pee.
Why look, it's"fake waco" aka Gail, Allen, little tea party repub, Voltaire, Jeff! Loserville!

“Seek Light”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#38709 Mar 21, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Again, who is claim the universe came from nothing? Just because you believe magic man said abracadabra and it came from nothing does not mean science or I believe it came from nothing.
Why the Hell can't you remember you password? Write it down somewhere!

“Seek Light”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#38710 Mar 21, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>When did I claim this?
Absolute nothing does not exist as far as science can measure.\
Try asking me what I really believe instead of regurgitating the typical religious propaganda.
I am out of town and again forgot my password. Note my MO.
Science can't measure"dark energy", yet it exists.

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#38711 Mar 21, 2013
Stupid is back! How are you? I've been orbiting, enjoying not acknowledging you, all good things and all that jazz. If you don't want to offer an opinion fine, Stupid, say so, I didn't hear any "plan". All I heard was, you are the future and it begins with you, the best he could do. It sounded nice to a young audience, Stupid. I'm sure he had other words for the older crowd, don't you Stupid?

Since: Sep 12

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#38712 Mar 21, 2013
15,722 + posts can't remember pass word! Ginkoba candidate.

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