“ We are not permanent”

Since: Oct 08

Gaston County

#35870 Feb 13, 2013
Mike Du wrote:
<quoted text>If a producer is already paying a living wage, no prices must need increase. Those who are screwing his employees might raise prices. Those who are not competitive may fail.

This debate has been argued for a hundred years in America. There are no absolutes here.
You don't run a business do you?

The cost of the employee is a black and white variable included in the overall cost of the product that is being manufactured. ANY change in that is and always will be passed on to the consumer.

That is an absolute.

“Arch Nemisis of Democrats”

Since: Jun 12

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#35871 Feb 13, 2013
Arnold-Ziffel wrote:
<quoted text>It is putting Negroes and Mexicans to work in legitimate paying jobs and getting them off the Welfare roles. Just want you wanted.
What is the excuse when they don't apply?

“Arch Nemisis of Democrats”

Since: Jun 12

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#35872 Feb 13, 2013
Mike Du wrote:
<quoted text>You greedy bastards always claim an increase will crush the economy. Keep crying wolf.
How many employees does your bar have?

“Arch Nemisis of Democrats”

Since: Jun 12

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#35873 Feb 13, 2013
Mike Du wrote:
<quoted text>What happens when the greedy business owners do not pay their employees enough to live on even though they are working full time? The impoverished person gets help through the government. This is money the business owner is paying. So why not cut out the middleman(government) and just pay the man a living wage?
What do you consider a living wage? A cashier at Walmart doesn't deserve the salary of say, a bar manager?

“Arch Nemisis of Democrats”

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#35874 Feb 13, 2013
Mike Du wrote:
<quoted text>The little man getting a bit more cash goes instantly back into the economy. Unlike the cash made by the wealthy. They are notorious for hourding up cash thus stifling the economy.
The little man is the one buying the products being made. It keeps the wheels turning. This is a basic economic truth.
Through food stamps and welfare? Why not cut the middleman, the entitlement taker, and just save what I would if spent paying his or her entitlements by not employing them thus generating more revenue and profits for said company?

“Arch Nemisis of Democrats”

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#35875 Feb 13, 2013
Pro-American wrote:
<quoted text>Most businesses do employees enough to make a living, most well above min wage. You, like Allen, act as if everyone earns min wage.
The key is to not live above your means...

“Breaking the spell”

Since: Feb 13

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#35876 Feb 13, 2013
The Enemy Within wrote:
<quoted text>
You don't run a business do you?
The cost of the employee is a black and white variable included in the overall cost of the product that is being manufactured. ANY change in that is and always will be passed on to the consumer.
That is an absolute.
If you are already paying your employees nine an hour, then no increases needed.
Also, there are other ways to cut costs thus keep prices competitive.
I know you black and white people only think there are only two answers to a situation, but in the real world, there is grey.

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#35877 Feb 13, 2013
TSF wrote:
Specifically,for instance, I am talking about the CEO of Broyhill (FBI), Jeff Cook, who got $2,000,000 of the $4,000,000 given to Broyhill, compliments of taxpayers and their ass kissing commsssioners.
<quoted text>
Who gave it, why did it get given and how do you know?

“Breaking the spell”

Since: Feb 13

Location hidden

#35878 Feb 13, 2013
Silvercoastcorks wrote:
<quoted text>
Through food stamps and welfare? Why not cut the middleman, the entitlement taker, and just save what I would if spent paying his or her entitlements by not employing them thus generating more revenue and profits for said company?
I have already answered this. Your income would go down due to a stagnant economy.

“Breaking the spell”

Since: Feb 13

Location hidden

#35879 Feb 13, 2013
Silvercoastcorks wrote:
<quoted text>
What do you consider a living wage? A cashier at Walmart doesn't deserve the salary of say, a bar manager?
Who is asking for them to make the same? Straw man.

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#35880 Feb 13, 2013
Swanson wrote:
<quoted text>Yeah, fat ass. I understand why whales like you can't work, too busy stuffing your pie hole and sitting on your lazy nasty ugly fat ass by a computer all day. Some life, must be rough carrying all that tonnage around, that's a handicap. Your nitwit lain brain queer boyfriend working for 25 years? Damn fugly flabby, someone got ripped off allowing the idiot to loiter around for a quarter century. Hey fat bitch, the number 25 does match your retard's IQ and the amount of tons you weigh.
I'll have you know, I work approximantly 63.2 hours a week and still have time to stuff my pie hole. I get around just fine, thank you for caring though.

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#35881 Feb 13, 2013
BTW people, I have asked a couple times and no answer......WHAT IS "FULL TIME" EMPLOYMENT. Anyone..please.
TSF

Kenly, NC

#35882 Feb 13, 2013
That is exactly what I'm talking about. Calling them dumbass commissioners is being kind.
The Enemy Within wrote:
<quoted text>
Isn't this the story of when dumbass commissioners gave a total of $4 million to Broyhill when they threatened to move the company? After the money was received they laid workers off most of the workers and basically gutted the business.

“ We are not permanent”

Since: Oct 08

Gaston County

#35883 Feb 13, 2013
Mike Du wrote:
<quoted text>If you are already paying your employees nine an hour, then no increases needed.
Also, there are other ways to cut costs thus keep prices competitive.
I know you black and white people only think there are only two answers to a situation, but in the real world, there is grey.
Let me make this simpler for you and others

McDonalds (and many other fast food companies) hires many young employees at minimum wage.

What will a roughly $2 hourly increase do to the price of a Big Mac combo?

That's right, it will increase.

“ We are not permanent”

Since: Oct 08

Gaston County

#35884 Feb 13, 2013
TSF wrote:
<quoted text>That is exactly what I'm talking about. Calling them dumbass commissioners is being kind.
We're the same commissioners voted back in?

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#35885 Feb 13, 2013
Mike Du wrote:
<quoted text>Thanks for telling us what the conservative think tank believes.
Although the goals of the minimum wage are widely accepted as proper, there is great disagreement as to whether the minimum wage is effective in attaining its goals. From the time of their introduction, minimum wage laws have been highly controversial politically, and have received much less support from economists than from the general public. Despite decades of experience and economic research, debates about the costs and benefits of minimum wages continue today.[The classic exposition of the minimum wage's shortcomings in reducing poverty was provided by George Stigler in 1949:

Employment may fall more than in proportion to the wage increase, thereby reducing overall earnings;
As uncovered sectors of the economy absorb workers released from the covered sectors, the decrease in wages in the uncovered sectors may exceed the increase in wages in the covered ones;
The impact of the minimum wage on family income distribution may be negative unless the fewer but better jobs are allocated to members of needy families rather than to, for example, teenagers from families not in poverty;
Forbidding employers to pay less than a legal minimum is equivalent to forbidding workers to sell their labour for less than the minimum wage. The legal restriction that employers cannot pay less than a legislated wage is equivalent to the legal restriction that workers cannot work at all in the protected sector unless they can find employers willing to hire them at that wagehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wi ki/Minimum_wage
TSF

Kenly, NC

#35886 Feb 13, 2013
Because the deficit has actually been reduced over the past 2 years, Obama is planning to hold the deficit at the previous levels by spending the money contained in the reduction. Claiming it will cost nothing isn't exactly the truth because he is calling the reduction savings. IT AINT SO.. The actual DEBT has not declined a single year since Clinton was in office. Notice that both parties talk about deficit reduction and never talk about debt reduction. That is because it wpould be so painful for all, rich and poor, that reducing the debt is now almost politically impossible. But carrying debt and its interest burden makes all of us slaves to the banksters. If the interest ever reaches 50% of tax collections, sheding debt will not just be politically impossible, it will be mathematically impossible. Either something is done about the debt very soon, or we are screwed.
The Enemy Within wrote:
<quoted text>
Spend Spend Spend...you heard it too?
I heard him say "it will not cost a dime". However under his watch he has increased the national debt by $58.6 trillion dimes.
TSF

Kenly, NC

#35887 Feb 13, 2013
When state legislators and county commissioners give my tax money to millionaires and other special interests, the motivation is usually corruption although often they convince the public and even themselves that they are "creating jobs". Most of the time, those jobs never materialize , the companies close up , throw the taxpayers the keys and deposit the "incentives" in Cayman bank accounts.
When state legislators send back federal money (which was really ours to start with), they are simply being stupid.
Pro-American wrote:
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<quoted text>How can you make the first post then come back with the second? Sounds contradicting to me!
TSF

Kenly, NC

#35888 Feb 13, 2013
One was. But its the same horse , different saddle because they are all republikans, realtors and contrators. They all fall over themselves giving out money (incentives) claiming they are creating jobs. They play monopoly with the taxpayers money but never show a profit. For instance, they buy property to use as a water source for $1.6 million dollars AND THEN SELL IT FOR $600 THOUSAND DOLLARS. They don't run their own real estate companies like that, so you tell me what is happening.
The Enemy Within wrote:
<quoted text>
We're the same commissioners voted back in?
Allen

Penrose, NC

#35889 Feb 13, 2013
LuLu wrote:
<quoted text>I would love to read that, the Vatican has some of the most priceless artifacts in the world. Hard to imagine bankrupt.
http://www.bishop-accountability.org/bankrupt...

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