Pete

Johnson City, TN

#94637 Aug 23, 2013
Overtaxed wrote:
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Now you indicate that a 30% deduction still leaves 70% costs, as if 30% ain't much....Somehow, I believe if you gave a 30% match on employee 401Ks you would think that EXTREMELY generous.
Your Medicare example is flawed as well. Your cost share fails to take into account the Medicare premiums deducted each month from recipient's Social Security checks.
If you think after half a lifetime in business I haven't had any employee who decided on their own to make themselves a "partner" in my funds, or any who failed to show up consistently and on time, or who failed to learn that the customer is always right,(even when they are wrong) you are at best WRONG and at worse a fool. I have been worked on by experts....and I have gotten pretty good at spotting a ringer when I see one. I learned some of what I know the hard way and I mean the HARD way.
On the IRS versus private insurance, over the years I have had dealings with both. One follows a set of fixed rules....some of which I haven't liked but they are the rules...the other has a vested interest in denying claims, no matter that the premium was timely paid. I have dealt with Medicare as my parents aged and I have dealt with my private for profit carrier. Once you have done both, you will see why Medicare is so popular with seniors.
I read your back and forth with "Dunlapian" on communications equipment and I am quite sure you know your stuff in that regard. I know nothing about that and you may have noticed....because of that I had no comment. I accept that you know much more in that regard than I. Your business experience is however a moving target, and I quote post 65531 on page 2972. "I have owned a large business in this area for over 40 years". Again...post that it is raining and I would have to step outside to check.
Good grief OT, I have owned part of a large business since I was six years old. That is the family business, and yes, I am the recipient of 5% of the shares of this business. My business, i.e. the one I own all the shares of, has been in existence since June, 2008. This one has nothing to do with the other one. However, the post you refer to was misleading in that I mislead "Lite-N-Lively" about how long I have known how FICA works. I implied I have known how this works for 40 years. I have only know how long FICA works for about 20 years. I also stated in this same post that "MY" business is highly successful. "My" business is, the family business is now a fraction of what it was. I apologize for the implication regarding how long I have known how FICA works. You are correct in implying that this was a misleading statement.

However, I am surprised you even mention this post in that this was my response to "Lite-N-Lively", aka SSS. You have chastised conservative posters many times for using different user names - allegedly. This post was proof positive that SSS uses different user names frequently, yet you say nothing about this. In the same day as the post you refer to, SSS used two different users names. But in the world of OT, that's ok because SSS is liberal.

I know your true colors OT. You are liberal first and foremost. You chastise Walmart for not paying for employees healthcare, yet you don't pay your employees' healthcare. In other words, it is of your opinion large businesses should front the social bill for small ones. I am not going to argue your flawed opinions on medicare or any other social cost any longer because you are simply liberal to the core no matter if it makes sense or not.

You once stated that you simply "get by" regarding the success of our business. Maybe if you were a better leader or less of an ideologist you could change that statement to one something like "I am very successful." In my opinion, if you are a business, you are either growing or dying. Which one is yours?
Honestly

Sparta, TN

#94639 Aug 23, 2013
The Original Amused wrote:
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If you want to split hairs about it, Jesus could have been considered a "community organizer."
No Jesus was and is our salvation to everlasting life. Obama was and is a community organizer who ideology is socialistic leading to the destruction of this country as we know it, including Christianity.

Believe I like the first option better.
Honestly

Sparta, TN

#94640 Aug 23, 2013
SexySassySenior wrote:
If any of you People want to really research it, you'll find that the TEApublicans are so much like Hitler's NAZI Party, that it will scare the beegeebers out of you! And I'm not kidding!
The TEApublicans ALWAYS try to defect the attention of what they are really trying to do, by accusing the Democrats of doing it.
The TEA Baggers learned that trick from the Republicans.
And if any of you TEA Baggers don't know the kind of Party you have affiliated yourselves with...and if you hated Hitler and the Nazi Party and what they did...you better wise up and realize that you are helping the American-version of Hitler's NAZI Party and don't even know it!
May God have mercy on your Souls for doing that, whether you know it or not!
The American People will not show you any mercy!
Good try Sas but people are not going to believe you no more. After 5 years and Obamacare threatening to put the country in a tailspin, the feds printing money which props up the stock market for a gigantic fall, I think even you will change your tune before the 2016 elections.
Honestly

Sparta, TN

#94641 Aug 23, 2013
SexySassySenior wrote:
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I don't like it, either, Dunlapian. But, I wonder if he was given that verdict because of the Children that he killed in their sleep.
I also wonder if he will, quietly, have his sentence commuted, like Lt. Calley did, at the end of Obama's Term in Office.
I find it hard to believe that he will actually serve Life in prison, especially with his brain concussions and his exhausting Tours of Duty. But, with the volatility in the Middle East right now, it doesn't surprise me that he was given Life...I just don't believe that he will be incarcerated that long. But, we will see!
As for the Ft. Hood Muslim Psychiatrist, I'm expecting him to get the Death Penalty and for it to be carried out, which is what he wants and deserves. I'm all for granting him his wish...the quicker , the better, as far as I'm concerned!
You still don't understand do you?/

/" As for the Ft. Hood Muslim Psychiatrist, I'm expecting him to get the Death Penalty and for it to be carried out, which is what he wants and deserves. I'm all for granting him his wish...the quicker , the better, as far as I'm concerned!"

They want death---it is in their religion to die a warrior (Jehad) for the profit Muhammad. To rot in prison is the worse thing we can do to him.

Since: Feb 13

Location hidden

#94642 Aug 23, 2013
Pete wrote:
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Good grief OT, I have owned part of a large business since I was six years old. That is the family business, and yes, I am the recipient of 5% of the shares of this business. My business, i.e. the one I own all the shares of, has been in existence since June, 2008. This one has nothing to do with the other one. However, the post you refer to was misleading in that I mislead "Lite-N-Lively" about how long I have known how FICA works. I implied I have known how this works for 40 years. I have only know how long FICA works for about 20 years. I also stated in this same post that "MY" business is highly successful. "My" business is, the family business is now a fraction of what it was. I apologize for the implication regarding how long I have known how FICA works. You are correct in implying that this was a misleading statement.
However, I am surprised you even mention this post in that this was my response to "Lite-N-Lively", aka SSS. You have chastised conservative posters many times for using different user names - allegedly. This post was proof positive that SSS uses different user names frequently, yet you say nothing about this. In the same day as the post you refer to, SSS used two different users names. But in the world of OT, that's ok because SSS is liberal.
I know your true colors OT. You are liberal first and foremost. You chastise Walmart for not paying for employees healthcare, yet you don't pay your employees' healthcare. In other words, it is of your opinion large businesses should front the social bill for small ones. I am not going to argue your flawed opinions on medicare or any other social cost any longer because you are simply liberal to the core no matter if it makes sense or not.
You once stated that you simply "get by" regarding the success of our business. Maybe if you were a better leader or less of an ideologist you could change that statement to one something like "I am very successful." In my opinion, if you are a business, you are either growing or dying. Which one is yours?
You need to go back and play "Mr. Business Owner" in the sandbox Mommie and Daddy provided for you and let the Grown-Ups talk, without you interrupting!
Honestly

Sparta, TN

#94643 Aug 23, 2013
NTMD8OR wrote:
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Great post.
Thanks

Since: Feb 13

Location hidden

#94644 Aug 23, 2013
"NSA Says Some Analysts Willfully Violated Spying Authority."

Click here:
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/08/2...

“IMNTBHO”

Since: Dec 10

Smyrna, TN

#94645 Aug 23, 2013
The Original Amused wrote:
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You must logically have the utmost admiration and respect for George Soros as well, right?
Never met him.
Honestly

Sparta, TN

#94646 Aug 23, 2013
NTMD8OR wrote:
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So, Boehner, along with 188 other Republicans AND 200 Democrats, are being run over and stopped at every turn by 45 Tea Party members. OK
Wellllllllll....... if this is true, then we need more teabaggers in there. we got a bunch of weak reps in there right now.

Since: Feb 13

Location hidden

#94647 Aug 23, 2013
Topix is literally filled with Fake Christians and Phony Business Owners...and all of them are TEA Baggers! Imagine that!
Honestly

Sparta, TN

#94648 Aug 23, 2013
Dunlapian wrote:
<quoted text>Yeah they are having us taxpayers pay for their employees health insurance, and using that money to put other Mom and Pop stores out of business.
Yes I know you consider the NEA a powerful Union, but the truth is they can't strike which takes the fire out of them as a Union.
Think you had better think on that a little bit more. They may not be able to strike but their union is one of the most powerful in the state, country. Just think,,,, how many jobs do you hand out that you have no control over or cannot fire readily. Of course you have ideal employees and never need to motivate them to be good employees..........
Pete

Johnson City, TN

#94649 Aug 23, 2013
Overtaxed wrote:
<quoted text>
On the IRS versus private insurance, over the years I have had dealings with both. One follows a set of fixed rules....some of which I haven't liked but they are the rules...the other has a vested interest in denying claims, no matter that the premium was timely paid. I have dealt with Medicare as my parents aged and I have dealt with my private for profit carrier. Once you have done both, you will see why Medicare is so popular with seniors.
This is a great example of your flawed logic. Currently, insured individuals pay their premium directly to insurance companies. Under the ACA, insured individuals pay their premium to the IRS, who in turn pays the insurance companies.

Which one of these processes do you think is more efficient? Name me one circumstance where you can insert a third party into purchasing process and the actual process becomes more efficient or cheaper?

Under your logic, you would never fire an employee because that would be cutting the employee off from their ability to feed, house or cloth themselves. In other words, the needs of the employee are prioritized over and above the needs of the business, even if the employee is behaving in a manner detrimental to the business. What that does is jeopardize the business, and hence, all the jobs this business provides. Guess what, political ideologies never trump common sense.

If, and this is a big if, you are indeed a business owner, you are so small that costs such as workman's comp, social security, unemployment and healthcare benefits don't mean a whole lot. Maybe you are a sole proprietor. In this case, you don't provide enough jobs to the community to mean a whole lot. Don't get me wrong, this is not a negative by any means. All businesses, large and small provide immense benefits to any community. However, your opinions regarding larger businesses are extremely flawed and outright incorrect in that you simply don't have enough experience to know what true social costs are and what privatized costs are. You can pose as an astute intellectual all you want, but I know better and I am willing to bet you know better as well. This may sound harsh, but it is simply reality, you are in a county with 6,000 people. How on earth can you possibly know what practices and policies provide substantial employment and which ones don't? Quite simply, you don't.

I challenge you to provide an answer to this one simple question. Where has any government where the government has been the largest employer, the sole insurer, the largest regulator and the sole determining factor on what and how much wages are paid succeeded? You want medicare for everyone. Who is going to pay for medicare for everyone? Is it you? Is it Hancock County? Levying this expense on all businesses is a recipe for catastrophe to our economy. This will never happen in our lifetime and this is something that most Americans do not want.
Honestly

Sparta, TN

#94650 Aug 23, 2013
SexySassySenior wrote:
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You tell us...when did you stop beating your Wife?
never laid a hand on her, don't believe in it. Women ( good women) is to be put upon a pedestal and taken care of.
Honestly

Sparta, TN

#94651 Aug 23, 2013
SexySassySenior wrote:
"NSA Says Some Analysts Willfully Violated Spying Authority."
Click here:
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/08/2...
I thought you liberals was all for the pying game the NSA is doing. It gives you info you need to tweak us into changing our vote. Obama is already trying to use if the truth ever gets out, you'll see I am right.
torr

Waynesboro, TN

#94652 Aug 23, 2013
SexySassySenior wrote:
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You tell us...when did you stop beating your Wife?
He didn't.
torr

Waynesboro, TN

#94654 Aug 23, 2013
Honestly wrote:
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Think you had better think on that a little bit more. They may not be able to strike but their union is one of the most powerful in the state, country. Just think,,,, how many jobs do you hand out that you have no control over or cannot fire readily. Of course you have ideal employees and never need to motivate them to be good employees..........
Without the ability to strike the union has very little leverage to get anything done. They are more like a paper tiger. As for the ability to fire, the union only insures the dismissal is justified and not done on a whim like many other employers do. In Tennessee an employer can fire simply because they don't like you without reguard for your work ethic or job performance.
Pete

Johnson City, TN

#94655 Aug 23, 2013
SexySassySenior wrote:
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You need to go back and play "Mr. Business Owner" in the sandbox Mommie and Daddy provided for you and let the Grown-Ups talk, without you interrupting!
Snagging male playmates, accusing everyone of being your stalker, pointing out all the lawsuits you have been in, posting under multiple usernames and aliases and simply posting "FU" to anyone who point out your falsehoods is not letting the grown-ups talk.

When you are broke, hate the world, being jealous of those more successful than you and sit in your house all day slinging insults at everyone not liberal, chances are your life has not been a very successful one. And when you are deranged enough to think that anyone of your lesser stature is going to listen to you, you are simply hallucinating.

Somehow and by some means, a poster posted an image of your house. I saw your house. If this was my house, I would spend more time repairing the front steps, painting the front door, cleaning the car and making my abode a little more acceptable in the community I lived in. If for nothing else than personal pride. You have no personal pride so all of your shortcomings are blanketed all over this thread. Exactly what kind of results do you expect to receive from this activity? You are simply a menace to society and will be continued to be treated as such. The Amish call it getting "shunned." You have been shunned to the max yet you don't seem to know it. Maybe it is a result of a mental disorder or just plain psychosis. Whatever it is, you simply degrade yourself with every post. In other words, most posters on here simply sit back and laugh at your posts because they are so far removed from reality, they are basically a fiction story trying to be posed as some sort of intellectual insight. The truth is you are not smart enough to have any insight on anything other than anger, spite, psychotic tendencies and socio-pathic behavior. In other words, you are this thread's weirdo. And you reaffirm these beliefs daily. You will post something so eccentric, most people who read it simply sit back and pity you. Is pity what you seek or do you desire a response back from one of your insults simply to have a dialogue with someone. Is this the life you expected to live 20 years ago? Probably not.
torr

Waynesboro, TN

#94656 Aug 23, 2013
Honestly wrote:
<quoted text>
No Jesus was and is our salvation to everlasting life. Obama was and is a community organizer who ideology is socialistic leading to the destruction of this country as we know it, including Christianity.
Believe I like the first option better.
Maybe the country as you know it, you mean ?
Honestly

Sparta, TN

#94657 Aug 23, 2013
Pete wrote:
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..........Levying this expense on all businesses is a recipe for catastrophe to our economy. This will never happen in our lifetime and this is something that most Americans do not want.
Great piece Pete:

I am afraid, the last sentence may be flawed."This will never happen in our lifetime and this is something that most Americans do not want."

I do not think he cares about the economy as it is and he certainly does not care what most Americans want. As long as he can placate the liberal middle, far left, Hispanics and the blacks; he could care less what you and I think.

Rem, the first rule of the military is to tear you completely down and then rebuild you. This is his path for the nation and he has not deviated from it since day one.

If the 2014 elections do not change the senate over to the conservatives, it may very well happen and even with that said, it still could happen then..All it would take is for the fed to quit printing money and the stock market would crash. add a few other things in the mix and you have a total collapse. With the country in a tail spin, he would be able to call for Martial Law and advert any elections that might remove him. Again with all the liberals, blacks and Hispanics backing him, he might just pull it off. With all that firepower of Homeland security and ability to confiscate just about anything, he would have the ability to pull it off. Rem: his remarks during his first election campaign was that he wanted a citizen security force that was as large, well equipment and trained as the Armed forces are. Well Homeland security has this already. With the IRS in your money and now your healthcare and the NSA spying on everyone----oh, wellll.......... Germany 1939 again.

I hope it never comes to that in my lifetime or my grand-childrens lifetime but ..........
torr

Waynesboro, TN

#94658 Aug 23, 2013
Honestly wrote:
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never laid a hand on her, don't believe in it. Women ( good women) is to be put upon a pedestal and taken care of.
Most women these days don't want to be worshipped. They just want equal recognition and equal treatment. Something the GOP is firmly against, per their many proposed anti female laws across the country.

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