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Informed Opinion

Sunapee, NH

#17427 Jul 6, 2013
Oh my wrote:
<quoted text>I suspect that there are many "kinds" of people who "push those silly judgment icons" as their only response to what they consider an inane post not worthy of reply. I also suspect there are people who post negative judgments based solely on their dislike for the poster irrespective of what was posted. It is very possible that those who provide negative judgments are jealous of the poster's ability to articulate a thought, or angery because their foolishness has been demonstrated via cut and paste, or simply fed up with being constantly reminded that they voted and supported such an obvious liar.

Then, there is Fox News, you know, the network that never dared to question or criticize the Dear Leader, Bush.

You are right, the term hero is over used, or maybe it's just a matter of being told who the heroes are, as if we couldn't see the heroism in others for ourselves. Giving one's life for another is a selfless act of heroism, just as taking an unpopular stand is a sign of courage which is another aspect of heroism. But when these acts of courage are performed in the political arena it should be expected that such acts will have their supporters and detractors, both of whom may use "those silly judgment icons" as a response to a post.
Manning, Assange, and Snowden risked their very lives to reveal the government's illegal and Unconstitutional violations of Americans basic rights.

Now those are heroes.

But, notice how quickly the very people who benefited from their sacrifices attack them.

That's sad.
danger zone

Lithonia, GA

#17428 Jul 6, 2013
The Brits are just loving socialized medicine...

http://frontpagemag.com/2012/arnold-ahlert/wh...
danger zone

Lithonia, GA

#17429 Jul 6, 2013
The patients are feeling the pain, alright...

http://www.forbes.com/sites/sallypipes/2011/1...

Since: Jan 10

Location hidden

#17430 Jul 6, 2013
danger zone wrote:
<quoted text>
You are one brainless example of the Obama fanbase. This post proves just how distracted & uninformed you are.
+1

There's many more examples by the clueless and uneducated in this thread on a daily basis. Heck, depending on who is posting, it's sometimes hourly...
danger zone

Lithonia, GA

#17431 Jul 6, 2013
The chart on recent medical innovations & their origin is MOST interesting.

http://www.ncpa.org/pub/ba649

Since: Jan 10

Location hidden

#17432 Jul 6, 2013
danger zone wrote:
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I don't care who you support or where you get your info. Your opinion of me means absolutely nothing. NADA. I was supporting Aggie in her statement about someone stooping so low to judge her comment about the good samaritan becoming paralyzed, then dying after rescuing the child from drowning... You think you're a psychic (and a very bad one, indeed) by so boldly stating I get my news, "from sources designed to make you happy" & what I don't know about the republican party. I could say the same about you, not knowing anything about Obama & his corrupt administration. You have no idea where I get my news. If you were a regular poster, you'd KNOW I post more liberal links than conservative links, to prevent anyone from making a STUPID accusation as to where I get my news. Read back a few hundred pages & CATCH UP, you're way, way behind.... If it's a personal thing, you can whine, whine some more, & keep on whining, I ain't going anywhere. Just so ya know.
+1

"You think you're a psychic (and a very bad one, indeed) by so boldly stating I get my news, "from sources designed to make you happy" & what I don't know about the republican party."

We have several posters (you already know who they are) that appear to think they're omnipotent, when, in reality, they're just impotent, thinking-wise and "other" wise...
What

Broken Arrow, OK

#17433 Jul 6, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
<quoted text>
Why do Right Wingers never tell the "whole truth"
Having been to England a half dozen times myself - I noted that people in England love the government run National Health Service.
If you want to commit career suicide as a politician in England - just propose doing away with the National Health Service.
Why not tell Americans how much the countries with government run health services love them and would never give them up ?
Wait ..... never mind.

And why do left wingers not even know the truth.

I trust my friends judgement more than yours.

I think the below gives the best explanation of why patients seek medical care in different places. Note that most come here because of "The availability of advanced medical technology and sophisticated training of physicians are cited as driving motivators for growth in foreigners traveling to the U.S. for medical care."

Also note most americans travel abroad for cheaper rates, "whereas the low costs for hospital stays and major/complex procedures at Western-accredited medical facilities abroad are cited as major motivators for American travelers."


So if you want cheap medical care, go abroad. If you want the best medical care, come to America.


"A McKinsey and Co. report from 2008 found that between 60,000 to 85,000 medical tourists were traveling to the United States for the purpose of receiving in-patient medical care.[79] The same McKinsey study estimated that 750,000 American medical tourists traveled from the United States to other countries in 2007 (up from 500,000 in 2006).[80] The availability of advanced medical technology and sophisticated training of physicians are cited as driving motivators for growth in foreigners traveling to the U.S. for medical care,[79] whereas the low costs for hospital stays and major/complex procedures at Western-accredited medical facilities abroad are cited as major motivators for American travelers.[80] Also, the decline in value of the U.S. dollar is offering additional incentive for foreign travel to the U.S., although cost differences between the US and many locations in Asia are larger than any currency fluctuations.

Several major medical centers and teaching hospitals offer international patient centers that cater to patients from foreign countries who seek medical treatment in the U.S.[81] Many of these organizations offer service coordinators to assist international patients with arrangements for medical care, accommodations, finances and transportation including air ambulance services."
Fools Galore

Broken Arrow, OK

#17434 Jul 6, 2013
folks like you wrote:
<quoted text>
The economy is recovering from the Bush years and Obama will be gone, we will again prosper in spite of folks like you.

ROFL.
Sorry dude, but America is now past it's greatness. We are now in a downward spiral.$16-20 trillion will never be paid off.
Most all mfg is now offshore, we produce nothing and our education systems are failing.
You'll be a poor man all your life, get used to it because it's not going to change.
Informed Opinion

North Fort Myers, FL

#17435 Jul 6, 2013
danger zone wrote:
The Brits are just loving socialized medicine...

http://frontpagemag.com/2012/arnold-ahlert/wh...
Getty
By Andrew Gregory | 5 Jul 2013 00:00
When the NHS was born 65 years ago today it promised free health care for all – regardless of whether you had enough money to pay the doctor.

... Our poll today reveals the definitive verdict on the NHS on the anniversary of its creation by Labour Minister of Health Aneurin Bevan, in 1948.

Overall, 85% are happy with care they receive, compared to 7% who are unhappy.

Our poll of 1,000 people this week also revealed most feel GPs, hospital consultants and medics are paid fairly for what they do, but 57% say nurses – who start on £21,000 – are not paid enough.

"This poll shows that people are, broadly speaking, satisfied with the care they have received.

Here's the facts,

and

65 years - no effort to return to an idiotic let's profit from sick people system.

Yes. Government run medical care works ... Works well ... And people who have it ... Love it.

Just those pesky facts.
What

Broken Arrow, OK

#17436 Jul 6, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
<quoted text>
Has it ever entered your mind that, logically speaking, 90% of the Republicans cannot be "RINOs" ?
Rather,for better or worse, the remaining 10% must be the "RINOs".
Just sayin...
You wake up ignorant every day, how do you stand it?
What

Broken Arrow, OK

#17437 Jul 6, 2013
danger zone wrote:
The Brits are just loving socialized medicine...
http://frontpagemag.com/2012/arnold-ahlert/wh...

Further supports my post to IO about his ignorance of socialized medicine in socialists countries.

Since: Jan 10

Location hidden

#17438 Jul 6, 2013
danger zone wrote:
The Brits are just loving socialized medicine...
http://frontpagemag.com/2012/arnold-ahlert/wh...
One of my good friends is a "dual" doctor (MD and PhD) and is very well respected in his field (he was the "lead" person in the development and launching of a drug used to treat a serious condition, sits on several medical boards and other boards) who was born in, grew up in, and trained in, the UK.

He's been in practice in the US for many years. I asked him one time why he was here, instead of where he grew up, he laughed and said something like, "As poor (his word) as the US healthcare system is, it's the best place to be, and not just for the money a doctor can earn. You can better treat your patients here. It's very frustrating in the UK."

Guy knows what he's talking about. He's done it.
What

Broken Arrow, OK

#17439 Jul 6, 2013
danger zone wrote:
The patients are feeling the pain, alright...
http://www.forbes.com/sites/sallypipes/2011/1...

The poor slobs backing Obamacare will have their reckoning day, coming soon to a day of medical care at the local garbage dump.




What

Broken Arrow, OK

#17440 Jul 6, 2013
Bill in Dville wrote:
<quoted text>
+1
There's many more examples by the clueless and uneducated in this thread on a daily basis. Heck, depending on who is posting, it's sometimes hourly...

And sometimes minutely.
What

Broken Arrow, OK

#17441 Jul 6, 2013
danger zone wrote:
The chart on recent medical innovations & their origin is MOST interesting.
http://www.ncpa.org/pub/ba649

Good link for any left winger to chew their cud on.
danger zone

Lithonia, GA

#17442 Jul 6, 2013
danger zone wrote:
The chart on recent medical innovations & their origin is MOST interesting.
http://www.ncpa.org/pub/ba649
IO, what do you have to say about US breast & prostate cancer mortality rates in comparison to Britain's mortality rates??
Informed Opinion

North Fort Myers, FL

#17443 Jul 6, 2013
Bill in Dville wrote:
<quoted text>One of my good friends is a "dual" doctor (MD and PhD) and is very well respected in his field (he was the "lead" person in the development and launching of a drug used to treat a serious condition, sits on several medical boards and other boards) who was born in, grew up in, and trained in, the UK.

He's been in practice in the US for many years. I asked him one time why he was here, instead of where he grew up, he laughed and said something like, "As poor (his word) as the US healthcare system is, it's the best place to be, and not just for the money a doctor can earn. You can better treat your patients here. It's very frustrating in the UK."

Guy knows what he's talking about. He's done it.
I'm shocked !

Shocked!

A doctor in a system that makes the doctors and health care providers among the richest people in the world- says its a great system.

Doctors in other industrialized countries, who provide just as good of services as here, are paid less than here.

I bet they would also love to make more money by turning out sick children into a source of profit for them.

What next ?

MRI salesmen who say we should have more MRIs ?

CAT Scan salesmen who say we should have more CATs ?

Cardiac Surgeons who say we should do more heart surgeries ?
Informed Opinion

North Fort Myers, FL

#17444 Jul 6, 2013
Two great books:

Catastrophic Care: "How American Health Care Killed My Father - And How We Can Fix it"

by David Goldhill

and

Bitter Pill: Why Medical Bills Are Killing Us"
by Steven Brill - NY Times Magazine

Both are on CSPAN this week discussing how to the government must intervene in medical care because there cannot ever be a "Free Market" in medical care.
danger zone

Lithonia, GA

#17445 Jul 6, 2013
Fools Galore wrote:
<quoted text>
ROFL.
Sorry dude, but America is now past it's greatness. We are now in a downward spiral.$16-20 trillion will never be paid off.
Most all mfg is now offshore, we produce nothing and our education systems are failing.
You'll be a poor man all your life, get used to it because it's not going to change.
And figure in the ONE TRILLION per year spent on Hispanic welfare-- that trillion doesn't include direct services, public education & provided services to UNLAWFUL immigrants. Downward spiral -death spin is absolutley right.

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#17446 Jul 6, 2013
What wrote:
Looks like Bush has turned into another rhino republican, or maybe he's been one all the time.
"George W. Bush to Speak on Immigration Reform."
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/...
I will always respect Bush because I believe he is a decent man who believed what he was doing was best for the country that he truly does love, unlike our current president who can't wait for any opportunity to blame this country for something.(and "fundamentally transform" it into something our Founders would not recognize) Unfortunately, he was not the fiscal conservative the country needed and he was squishy on issues like immigration.

Speaking of our Founders, apparently Obama doesn't like the term "Founding Fathers" - I guess he thinks "Founding Founders" - yes, he actually said it - is more "inclusive". Sorry, Mr President, it just makes you sound like an idiot. And that's how the administration is referring to them as well.

"how the spirit of our Founding Founders did more than just create a nation"
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/re...

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/351031/w...

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