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Since: Nov 12

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#12558 May 21, 2013
Oh my wrote:
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You might recall that your original statement was that none of the failed to pass gun laws would have stopped the Sandy Hook shooting, and this is certainly true since we can undo the past. But laws are written to curtail future behavior.
Since you brought up automobiles let's look at some of the laws that curtailed future behavior or mitigated damage from auto accidents.
Drunk driving laws were strengthened and blood alcohol threshold has been lowered which has reduced the number of deaths from drunk drives behind the wheel. It is now not only irresponsible to drink and drive, but also socially unacceptable.
Safety features have been added to cars, some voluntary, some mandatory, that have reduced the level of injury and deaths from auto accidents. Did people still die from lack of seat belts, sure, but eventually the majority of those cars were replaced thru attrition.
None of these laws had the slightest impact on events in the past, but all had an impact on events in the future.
Your comparison is a poor one. Drunk driving has always been illegal, the problem was (as you alluded to) more of a societal wink-wink, nudge-nudge when it came to actually punishing those who got caught. Juries tended to take the "there but for the grace of God go I" and let the drivers off. We can thank organizations like MADD for helping make people aware that those who broke the law needed to be treated as though they broke the law and these changing attitudes also led to the lower thresholds and stronger laws you mentioned.

And again, the laws that the Left tried to pass by shamelessly using the children of Sandy Hook as political cudgels, would have made NO difference in the Sandy Hook shooting. If you look at the most recent mass shootings, the problem appears to be one of mental health - none of the proposed gun laws have addressed this issue - and given that the current climate prefers to err on the side of the rights of the mentally ill versus the rights of the community,(I am not making a judgement here, simply stating a fact) I don't see that changing anytime soon. But the whole situation of public mass shooting needs to be put in perspective. Even one shooting that kills one victim is a tragedy, but the coverage of each one would make one think we are all in imminent danger of being a victim.

According to a Congressional Research Service Report released a few months ago, the actual number of public mass shootings since 1983 stands at 78 - and those shootings claimed 547 lives. Public mass shootings being defined as: an incident involving four or more deaths and involving a gunman who selects victims somewhat indiscriminately. As precious as each of those lives are, 3 times more Americans have been killed by lightning in that same time period.

As the Daily Beast's Megan McCardle noted in December 2013, "It is beyond horrible to suggest that even a small number of attacks are largely unavoidable. I don't like saying it. Unfortunately, I think it's true." More laws are not going to change that, they will simply make it more difficult for law abiding citizens to "keep and bear arms" while doing nothing about those who are already more than willing to break any laws in order to get whatever firearms they wish to have.
Bored

Cornelia, GA

#12559 May 21, 2013
columbus native wrote:
<quoted text>Good comment, but good luck getting any sense out of these republicans. The only problem with giving to the Red Cross is that these vultures are known to come in during times of tragedy, then collect millions from donors, yet very little of the money gets to the source. Look at Haiti and New Orleans, they collected millions from donors but why did so little get to the intended people. In the 1990's they were paying Bob Dole's wife 400,000 dollars a year to be their leader. I don't know how much they pay their top CEO's now but this is suppose to be a Non-Profit organization.
Why are you on topix while your fellow Oklahomans are in need of help.
Get of your azz and go to Moore and help them instead of bi*ching about the red cross.

Since: Jan 10

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#12560 May 21, 2013
Oh my wrote:
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None of these laws had the slightest impact on events in the past, but all had an impact on events in the future.
Not that I disagree, but you can't be 100% sure, nor can you know for sure, unless you can predict the future. But, as you've indicated before, you're omnipotent and can tell the future...

Can you tell me what the next PowerBall numbers will be?

Jus' Sayin'
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United States

#12561 May 21, 2013
columbus native wrote:
Now see there folks what I been saying about these hardcore republicans? There's Angie, Synergy, Bill from somewhere, and a few others. They never apologize to the rest of the voting population about allowing their putrid piece of human feces in the form of a man, named bush, who caused permenate damage to our country. They want us all to zero in on some serious temporary matters, like IRS, Benghazi, and picking on their piss (tea) party. Now these should be addressed but 1 trillion and counting in Iraq, allowing their golden calves(Rich) to get unequal advantage in tax breaks, huge over expenditures in the defence industry, Patriot Act which was the greatest threat to privacy. I have no respect nor do I consider them nothing less than weirdos, terrorists to our own people and quite frankly like those with AIDS or any other highly contagious diseases those to whom I would not want any contact with. Their party is falling apart as well as most if not all of them. Let's just never forget bush nor these oddballs come next election. The other side is not much choice but let us never again return to the bush era.
They are "objectivists" or pseudo 'objectivists'- They may not admit it but they take their whole meme from Rand and her sophomoric novel Atlas Shrugged. They worship greed. Funny thing is that even the religious fundamentalists among them idolize Rand. She hated them and they still cling to the leftover remnants of a cult that never had any credence from the get go. They are few in number and think that being loud suffices for being correct. They see the world in black and white,'takers' and 'makers'. They are a dwindling and pitiful lot. Their modern heros are little more than clowns. Bachman, Palin, beck, Santorum, Paul etc.
Bored

Cornelia, GA

#12562 May 21, 2013
columbus native wrote:
<quoted text>Totally agree! These republicans are fantasizing about some big watergate scandel and the American people(They think) will demand Obama's departure. Any independent voter like me sees very little comparison, but sit back and watch them come unravelled.

You wish dummy.

"Top IRS official will invoke the Fifth Amendment in congressional hearing about tea party targeting program."


And now that the scent of blood is in the air, the hunt has just begun.
Bored

Cornelia, GA

#12563 May 21, 2013
columbus native wrote:
Even on a rainy day it is exciting watching these republicans on this forum get more and more worked up. Come on now republicans we got almost 4 more years to run and most of you are already flipping out. How does it feel? Now you know what all of us had to go thru when your lord and master bush was tearing up our country. Atleast this president is getting some money back to the people and not just the corporate wealthy. You all are a Curse and a Shame to our country and most of us non-republicans are'nt leeberrals.


ha-ha-ha, 2014 is only next year dumbo. Obama and his programs are dead in the water.


“Liberals are closet raaacists!”

Since: Nov 08

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#12564 May 21, 2013
ChicknButt wrote:
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Synergy, sometimes you're NOT out of your mind.
Today hasn't been one of those times.
As opposed to you whom is pretty much ALWAYS out of yours.
Do you HONESTLY think that his people aren't telling him what he should do in regard to this tragedy and how it will help the situation(s) of last week? SERIOUSLY? It's politics! Get a clue!
columbus native

Edmond, OK

#12565 May 21, 2013
As one who has lived here the past two years but returning soon to Pine Mountain, this mass detruction on one area of the country(OKLA) could very well be linked to the woman republican governor who refused to meet OUR(America's) President when he came here last year to help the oil pipeline from Canada go thru. She has also refused much needed healthcare funds from OUR government. Now you know this slut has good healthcare paid for by (state)government but to hell with middle class and poor. Also this is a hypocritic republican majority state and most are anti-Obama. Now why else would God spank his children soooo hard? Be careful there repubs, I think HE is quite upset with your tunnel vision and maybe trying to wake you all up! Terrible destructive tornado but Obama will be much more of a man than bush and send federal assistance to this state unlike prick bush who did'nt help New Orleans. Thank You God for a Non-republican President and he is'nt perfect but sure beats romney.
Bored

Cornelia, GA

#12566 May 21, 2013
Synergy wrote:
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Another of the TOPIX loonie liberals MO. They cherry pick from articles and if they're REALLY trying to hide other info, they won't post the link. They've been called out several times.

The other loonies are randomly caught in their hyprocrisy by the links they post. Oh my post links that clarify what we conservatives post even, though he doesn't realize it until we tell him and then he gets all huffy and puffy.

“Liberals are closet raaacists!”

Since: Nov 08

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#12567 May 21, 2013
columbus native wrote:
Now see there folks what I been saying about these hardcore republicans? There's Angie, Synergy, Bill from somewhere, and a few others. They never apologize to the rest of the voting population about allowing their putrid piece of human feces in the form of a man, named bush, who caused permenate damage to our country. They want us all to zero in on some serious temporary matters, like IRS, Benghazi, and picking on their piss (tea) party. Now these should be addressed but 1 trillion and counting in Iraq, allowing their golden calves(Rich) to get unequal advantage in tax breaks, huge over expenditures in the defence industry, Patriot Act which was the greatest threat to privacy. I have no respect nor do I consider them nothing less than weirdos, terrorists to our own people and quite frankly like those with AIDS or any other highly contagious diseases those to whom I would not want any contact with. Their party is falling apart as well as most if not all of them. Let's just never forget bush nor these oddballs come next election. The other side is not much choice but let us never again return to the bush era.
And YOUR opinion really counts?????? You give yourself entirely too much credit. As I posted earlier, if it weren't for low class, you wouldn't have any class at all.
Simply

Abbeville, GA

#12568 May 21, 2013
Synergy wrote:
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And you loonie liberals have Obama and swastikas to advertise your devotion to communism.
There aren't communists. Fascists yes, but not communists.
formerresident

Decatur, GA

#12569 May 21, 2013
What studies are you referencing? I would like to see your source for this data.
Bored

Cornelia, GA

#12570 May 21, 2013
Oh my wrote:
<quoted text>
You might recall that your original statement was that none of the failed to pass gun laws would have stopped the Sandy Hook shooting, and this is certainly true since we can undo the past. But laws are written to curtail future behavior.
Since you brought up automobiles let's look at some of the laws that curtailed future behavior or mitigated damage from auto accidents.
Drunk driving laws were strengthened and blood alcohol threshold has been lowered which has reduced the number of deaths from drunk drives behind the wheel. It is now not only irresponsible to drink and drive, but also socially unacceptable.
Safety features have been added to cars, some voluntary, some mandatory, that have reduced the level of injury and deaths from auto accidents. Did people still die from lack of seat belts, sure, but eventually the majority of those cars were replaced thru attrition.
None of these laws had the slightest impact on events in the past, but all had an impact on events in the future.

We are waiting with anticipation for you to post the laws in regards to the dangers of hairpins, long fingernails, and false hairpieces that can smother a person.



Since: Nov 12

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#12571 May 21, 2013
guest wrote:
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They are "objectivists" or pseudo 'objectivists'- They may not admit it but they take their whole meme from Rand and her sophomoric novel Atlas Shrugged. They worship greed. Funny thing is that even the religious fundamentalists among them idolize Rand. She hated them and they still cling to the leftover remnants of a cult that never had any credence from the get go. They are few in number and think that being loud suffices for being correct. They see the world in black and white,'takers' and 'makers'. They are a dwindling and pitiful lot. Their modern heros are little more than clowns. Bachman, Palin, beck, Santorum, Paul etc.
Sorry, but every time you post you just proclaim your ignorance from the mountaintops. You on the Left are the ones who keep on bringing up Ayn Rand.
formerresident

Decatur, GA

#12572 May 21, 2013
Aggie, that post is to you.

“Liberals are closet raaacists!”

Since: Nov 08

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#12573 May 21, 2013
Aggie23 wrote:
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Your comparison is a poor one. Drunk driving has always been illegal, the problem was (as you alluded to) more of a societal wink-wink, nudge-nudge when it came to actually punishing those who got caught. Juries tended to take the "there but for the grace of God go I" and let the drivers off. We can thank organizations like MADD for helping make people aware that those who broke the law needed to be treated as though they broke the law and these changing attitudes also led to the lower thresholds and stronger laws you mentioned.
And again, the laws that the Left tried to pass by shamelessly using the children of Sandy Hook as political cudgels, would have made NO difference in the Sandy Hook shooting. If you look at the most recent mass shootings, the problem appears to be one of mental health - none of the proposed gun laws have addressed this issue - and given that the current climate prefers to err on the side of the rights of the mentally ill versus the rights of the community,(I am not making a judgement here, simply stating a fact) I don't see that changing anytime soon. But the whole situation of public mass shooting needs to be put in perspective. Even one shooting that kills one victim is a tragedy, but the coverage of each one would make one think we are all in imminent danger of being a victim.
According to a Congressional Research Service Report released a few months ago, the actual number of public mass shootings since 1983 stands at 78 - and those shootings claimed 547 lives. Public mass shootings being defined as: an incident involving four or more deaths and involving a gunman who selects victims somewhat indiscriminately. As precious as each of those lives are, 3 times more Americans have been killed by lightning in that same time period.
As the Daily Beast's Megan McCardle noted in December 2013, "It is beyond horrible to suggest that even a small number of attacks are largely unavoidable. I don't like saying it. Unfortunately, I think it's true." More laws are not going to change that, they will simply make it more difficult for law abiding citizens to "keep and bear arms" while doing nothing about those who are already more than willing to break any laws in order to get whatever firearms they wish to have.
+1 Great post. I don't understand why the democrats find that so difficult to understand. The law abiding citizens will be the only ones hung out to dry.

“Liberals are closet raaacists!”

Since: Nov 08

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#12574 May 21, 2013
Aggie23 wrote:
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If your beloved unions are so great, why is membership in the private sector below 7%?
He got his. He doesn't care about the rest of his union "brothers". Unions are drying up. They aren't needed nor wanted.

“Liberals are closet raaacists!”

Since: Nov 08

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#12575 May 21, 2013
Bill in Dville wrote:
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Not that I disagree, but you can't be 100% sure, nor can you know for sure, unless you can predict the future. But, as you've indicated before, you're omnipotent and can tell the future...
Can you tell me what the next PowerBall numbers will be?
Jus' Sayin'
You haven't heard. The left wing loonies are all knowing. They speak with such authority and have nothing to back it up. Hiilarious.
Bored

Cornelia, GA

#12576 May 21, 2013
Synergy wrote:
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You don't have to worry. Those people will be cared for IN SPITE of your hatred and lies. It's not about YOU. It's about getting help those people so despately need and they'll get it.
Of course, you "didn't know" (where have we heard that over and over) about the Sandy Relief. It didn't support your lies, so there ya go.

The dummy was complaining about the sequester money FEMA didn't get, like many other departments. He doesn't get a pay raise this year and his medication prescription has expired.

He's not only dull himself, he is the cause of dullness in others, witness the other liberaces here.


Bored

Cornelia, GA

#12577 May 21, 2013
Synergy wrote:
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Not sure what you are referring to. How about a link. This is a legitimate request.

He's referring to the fact he's probably gonna lose his medicaid.

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