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Thought this was worthy of sharing.
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"On Tuesday, in Fort Walton Beach, Florida, the surviving Doolittle Raiders gathered publicly for the last time.
They once were among the most universally admired and revered men in the United States.
There were 80 of the Raiders in April 1942, when they carried out one of the most courageous and heart-stirring military operations in this nation's history. The mere mention of their unit's name, in those years, would bring tears to the eyes of grateful Americans.
Now only four survive.
After Japan's sneak attack on Pearl Harbor, with the United States reeling and wounded, something dramatic was needed to turn the war effort around.
Even though there were no friendly airfields close enough to Japan for the United States to launch a retaliation, a daring plan was devised. Sixteen B-25s were modified so that they could take off from the deck of an aircraft carrier. This had never before been tried -- sending such big, heavy bombers from a carrier.
The 16 five-man crews, under the command of Lt. Col. James Doolittle, who himself flew the lead plane off the USS Hornet, knew that they would not be able to return to the carrier. They would have to hit Japan and then hope to make it to China for a safe landing.
But on the day of the raid, the Japanese military caught wind of the plan. The Raiders were told that they would have to take off from much farther out in the Pacific Ocean than they had counted on. They were told that because of this they would not have enough fuel to make it to safety.
And those men went anyway.
They bombed Tokyo, and then flew as far as they could. Four planes crash-landed; 11 more crews bailed out, and three of the Raiders died. Eight more were captured; three were executed. Another died of starvation in a Japanese prison camp. One crew made it to Russia.
The Doolittle Raid sent a message from the United States to its enemies, and to the rest of the world: We will fight. And, no matter what it takes, we will win.
Of the 80 Raiders, 62 survived the war.
Beginning in 1946, the surviving Raiders have held a reunion each April. In 1959, the city of Tucson, Arizona, as a gesture of respect and gratitude, presented the Doolittle Raiders with a set of 80 silver goblets. Each goblet was engraved with the name of a Raider.
Every year, a wooden display case bearing all 80 g oblets is transported to the reunion city. Each time a Raider passes away, his goblet is turned upside down in the case at the next reunion, as his old friends bear solemn witness.
Also in the wooden case is a bottle of 1896 Hennessy Very Special cognac.
There has always been a plan: When there are only two surviving Raiders, they would open the bottle, at last drink from it, and toast their comrades who preceded them in death.
So now, out of the original 80, only four Raiders remain:
Dick Cole (Doolittle's co-pilot on the Tokyo raid), Robert Hite, Edward Saylor and David Thatcher.
All are in their 90s. They have decided that there are too few of them for the public reunions to continue.
The events in Fort Walton Beach this week will mark the end. It has come full circle; Florida's nearby Eglin Field was where the Raiders trained in secrecy for the Tokyo mission.
Do the men ever wonder if those of us for whom they helped save the country have tended to it in a way that is worthy of their sacrifice?
The men have decided that after this final public reunion they will wait until a later date -- some time this year -- to get together once more, informally and in absolute privacy. That is when they will open the bottle of brandy. The years are flowing by too swiftly now; they are not going to wait until there are only two of them. They will fill the four remaining upturned goblets. And raise them in a toast to those who are gone."
Thanks
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Thought this was worthy of sharing.
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"On Tuesday, in Fort Walton Beach, Florida, the surviving Doolittle Raiders gathered publicly for the last time.
They once were among the most universally admired and revered men in the United States.
There were 80 of the Raiders in April 1942, when they carried out one of the most courageous and heart-stirring military operations in this nation's history. The mere mention of their unit's name, in those years, would bring tears to the eyes of grateful Americans.
Now only four survive.
After Japan's sneak attack on Pearl Harbor, with the United States reeling and wounded, something dramatic was needed to turn the war effort around.
Even though there were no friendly airfields close enough to Japan for the United States to launch a retaliation, a daring plan was devised. Sixteen B-25s were modified so that they could take off from the deck of an aircraft carrier. This had never before been tried -- sending such big, heavy bombers from a carrier.
The 16 five-man crews, under the command of Lt. Col. James Doolittle, who himself flew the lead plane off the USS Hornet, knew that they would not be able to return to the carrier. They would have to hit Japan and then hope to make it to China for a safe landing.
But on the day of the raid, the Japanese military caught wind of the plan. The Raiders were told that they would have to take off from much farther out in the Pacific Ocean than they had counted on. They were told that because of this they would not have enough fuel to make it to safety.
And those men went anyway.
They bombed Tokyo, and then flew as far as they could. Four planes crash-landed; 11 more crews bailed out, and three of the Raiders died. Eight more were captured; three were executed. Another died of starvation in a Japanese prison camp. One crew made it to Russia.
The Doolittle Raid sent a message from the United States to its enemies, and to the rest of the world: We will fight. And, no matter what it takes, we will win.
Of the 80 Raiders, 62 survived the war.
Beginning in 1946, the surviving Raiders have held a reunion each April. In 1959, the city of Tucson, Arizona, as a gesture of respect and gratitude, presented the Doolittle Raiders with a set of 80 silver goblets. Each goblet was engraved with the name of a Raider.
Every year, a wooden display case bearing all 80 g oblets is transported to the reunion city. Each time a Raider passes away, his goblet is turned upside down in the case at the next reunion, as his old friends bear solemn witness.
Also in the wooden case is a bottle of 1896 Hennessy Very Special cognac.
There has always been a plan: When there are only two surviving Raiders, they would open the bottle, at last drink from it, and toast their comrades who preceded them in death.
So now, out of the original 80, only four Raiders remain:
Dick Cole (Doolittle's co-pilot on the Tokyo raid), Robert Hite, Edward Saylor and David Thatcher.
All are in their 90s. They have decided that there are too few of them for the public reunions to continue.
The events in Fort Walton Beach this week will mark the end. It has come full circle; Florida's nearby Eglin Field was where the Raiders trained in secrecy for the Tokyo mission.
Do the men ever wonder if those of us for whom they helped save the country have tended to it in a way that is worthy of their sacrifice?
The men have decided that after this final public reunion they will wait until a later date -- some time this year -- to get together once more, informally and in absolute privacy. That is when they will open the bottle of brandy. The years are flowing by too swiftly now; they are not going to wait until there are only two of them. They will fill the four remaining upturned goblets. And raise them in a toast to those who are gone."

A bit of History that is uplifting.......

thanks!!
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Informed Opinion wrote:
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Another bit of wisdom from the Right Wing Taliban friends who can't stand the democratically elected government working.

suppose you tell me how dead people voting is democratic.......

Oh wait, maybe you mean brain dead like yourself.
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How organized labor can bankrupt a pension fund......

"How much each person received is not known. But available records suggest that the trustees approving the payments did not discriminate; nearly everybody in the plan received them. Most of the trustees on Detroit's two pension boards represent organized labor, and for years they could outvote anyone who challenged the payments. "


http://www.cnbc.com/id/101064165
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NEWS FLASH.. NEWS FLASH.. NEWS

"Who", "What", "Why", "Where", "How", "It", "When", "Whatever", "Bill", "Fran" and "Ollie" announce:

Having posted 157 posts demonstrating that Obama's policies are mostly Right Wing duplicates of Bush the Beloved";
and
Having posted 182 posts demonstrating Obama is no friend of Organized Labor;
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Having posted 66 posts demonstrating Obama kills more Muslims with drone strikes every Thursday than other Right Wing Administration killed in 8 years;
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Having posted 123 posts demonstrating that 3264 more Americans were killed by terrorists under other Right Wing Administrations than under Obama's;
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Having posted 214 posts demonstrating Obama's administration has run a deficit less than half the other Right Wing Administration;
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Having posted 413 posts demonstrating Obama's Administration is demanding an end to welfare provided to freeloading deadbeats who won't buy insurance to pay their medical bills;
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Having posted 218 posts demonstrating the people of America democratically elected Obama to the Presidency, and for Democrats to control the Senate; office, and in fact, the majority of voters voted for Democratic control of the House too;

Hereby:

Proudly declare their allegiance and support for President Obama, and Right Wing,(Bush + Brain), Conservative Agenda.

And this peace reigns throughout all of TOPIX.
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Sen. Ted Cruz very well may have not stopped Obama and his gang of RINOs, from striping the defunding of Obamacare, out of the House Bill.... But what he did do, is expose the trainwreck that is Obamacare, and expose alot of the cowardly RINOs that are helping Obama. I know we have two of the biggest RINOs right here in Ga. representing us. Johnny Isakson's statements were the worst that I had the displeasure to listen to, out of all the the RINOs yesterday. McCains sorry a$$ was a close second. Saxby Chambliss has always been stupid as hell, so no suprise to me that all he said was stupid sh*t. Thanks Ted Cruz for your patriotic service to this country. I know I will never forget your courage. And thank you for exposing the RINOs helping Obama. I will do everything that I can, to make sure the two in Ga. are removed from office in the next election. God Bless America!
http://personalliberty.com/2013/09/27/republi...
Impeach Obama Today!
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Aggie23 wrote:
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http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
And the laughs just keep coming. Now that Just Saying, Synergy, Now and I have all have shown beyond a shadow of a doubt that while Congress and their staffers will be getting a subsidy for their premiums on the exchanges that no other American gets - meaning they are E-X-E-M-P-T from the subsidy formulas that apply to everyone else - you try and say we claimed they were exempt for the exchanges themselves. Sorry, dear - everyone knows that isn't true and is only your futile way to try and retain relevance. Fail.
You really are making a fool of yourself.
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How Now Brown Cow offered these insights,
without a word of protest from Aggie23:
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
Pay no attention to the pilferer. His post was horsecrap as usual...
factcheck dot org is nothing but a liberal biased website sponsored by APPC, itself sponsored by the Annenberg Foundation.

The same foundation that sponsored the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, Obama was Chairman of the Chicago Challenge and Bill Ayers was co-chair and grant writer for it's two operating arms.
Oh we'll claim their exempt until questioned, then we didn't really mean what we said cause we're just so misunderstood.

http://www.factcheck.org/2013/08/no-special-s...
...Congress isn’t “exempt” from the law. It wasn’t exempt back in 2010, when we first debunked such a claim; nor were lawmakers exempt in May when the bogus bit surfaced again. Three months later, they’re still not exempt.

"first debunked such a claim"
"the bogus bit surfaced again"
"they’re still not exempt"
"twisted reading of the legislation"

"Congress was supposedly “exempt” when members couldn’t participate in the exchanges, and now that they are required to do so, they’re still somehow “exempt” from the law. Neither of these convoluted claims is true."

"a radio interview in which their disregard for the facts was nothing short of absurd"

"questions from Huckabee and answers from Pittenger were bursting with political mendacity"

"Huckabee and Pittenger offered listeners a distorted view"
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Let's turn back the pages to the days of yore, it was a different day, it was a different discussion, you know everything was just different then....

Oh my asked:
Uhmmmm, so factcheck.org is now an approved site, perhaps you can tell us specifically what aspects of the site lead to its approval rating.
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Aggie 23 responded:
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
"The site has gained recognition and won numerous awards for its contributions to political journalism. In 2006, TIME magazine named FactCheck.org one of the “25 Sites We Can’t Live Without.”[13] In 2008, PC Magazine called it one of the “20 Best Political Websites.”[14] Between 2008 and 2012, the site won four Webby Awards in the Politics category, in 2008, 2010, 2011, and 2012; as well as four People’s Voice Awards in Politics, in 2008, 2009, 2010, and 2012.[15] FactCheck.org also won a 2010 Sigma Delta Chi Award from the Society of Professional Journalists for reporting on deceptive claims made about the federal health care legislation.[16]"

http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8...
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2329086,...
https://www.spj.org/sdxa10.asp
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FactCheck.org
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Bill in Dville gave a +1 to the masterful debunking:
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...

Bill in Dville lavished still more praise:
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
+1 (again)
In other words, you blew that post out of the water...
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How Now Brown Cow Who What When Why never said a word in protest about the source, in fact, no one questioned the source.

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Oh my wrote:
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Oh we'll claim their exempt until questioned, then we didn't really mean what we said cause we're just so misunderstood.
http://www.factcheck.org/2013/08/no-special-s...
...Congress isn’t “exempt” from the law. It wasn’t exempt back in 2010, when we first debunked such a claim; nor were lawmakers exempt in May when the bogus bit surfaced again. Three months later, they’re still not exempt.
"first debunked such a claim"
"the bogus bit surfaced again"
"they’re still not exempt"
"twisted reading of the legislation"
"Congress was supposedly “exempt” when members couldn’t participate in the exchanges, and now that they are required to do so, they’re still somehow “exempt” from the law. Neither of these convoluted claims is true."
"a radio interview in which their disregard for the facts was nothing short of absurd"
"questions from Huckabee and answers from Pittenger were bursting with political mendacity"
"Huckabee and Pittenger offered listeners a distorted view"
..........
Let's turn back the pages to the days of yore, it was a different day, it was a different discussion, you know everything was just different then....
Oh my asked:
Uhmmmm, so factcheck.org is now an approved site, perhaps you can tell us specifically what aspects of the site lead to its approval rating.
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Aggie 23 responded:
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
"The site has gained recognition and won numerous awards for its contributions to political journalism. In 2006, TIME magazine named FactCheck.org one of the “25 Sites We Can’t Live Without.”[13] In 2008, PC Magazine called it one of the “20 Best Political Websites.”[14] Between 2008 and 2012, the site won four Webby Awards in the Politics category, in 2008, 2010, 2011, and 2012; as well as four People’s Voice Awards in Politics, in 2008, 2009, 2010, and 2012.[15] FactCheck.org also won a 2010 Sigma Delta Chi Award from the Society of Professional Journalists for reporting on deceptive claims made about the federal health care legislation.[16]"
http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8...
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2329086,...
https://www.spj.org/sdxa10.asp
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FactCheck.org
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Bill in Dville gave a +1 to the masterful debunking:
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
Bill in Dville lavished still more praise:
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
+1 (again)
In other words, you blew that post out of the water...
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How Now Brown Cow Who What When Why never said a word in protest about the source, in fact, no one questioned the source.
And just staying out of the way..........

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How organized labor can bankrupt a pension fund......
"How much each person received is not known. But available records suggest that the trustees approving the payments did not discriminate; nearly everybody in the plan received them. Most of the trustees on Detroit's two pension boards represent organized labor, and for years they could outvote anyone who challenged the payments. "
http://www.cnbc.com/id/101064165
Admittedly I skimmed it, but the only mention of court that I saw was that the city might sue the pension fund. Probably needs to be done, but the "defense money" will probably also come from the pension fund. And the unions will fight tooth and nail to stop future pension benefits for retirees or current employee paychecks from being reduced to try and recoup some of the money illegally handed out to those individuals who benefitted.

I just want to know that criminal charges will be filed and that people will be held accountable - and some will go to jail - fat chance. These people were no less responsible for their financial malfeasance than Bernie Madoff was of his. And they harmed far more people through their arrogance and stupidity.
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Oh my wrote:
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How Now Brown Cow Who What When Why never said a word in protest about the source, in fact, no one questioned the source.

Factcheck sucks, as do you.
so now you're whining again about sources, who does and and who does not question the source......well, the sites themselves are the sources, all one need do is dig deep which you are incapable of doing.

exemption = the process of freeing or state of being free from an obligation or liability imposed on others.

Using the convoluted or innocuous meaning above appears to be a tripwire for libroid socialists, or maybe a wire to hang themselves or tie them into knots.

A spade was a spade before the libroids got a hold of it. A gay was a condition of being merry or laughing until the libroids got a hold of it. A democrat was a good citizen until the libroids got a hold of it.

An Oh my was an explanation of sudden revelation, until the poster Oh my got a hold of it and turned it into a bowl of mush, a depression upon others when seen, and a fine example of a hairbrained, with a lot of loose nuts rambling around, sometimes making a complete azz of himself.

OMTE

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RINOs are more dangerous to this country than Obama is.(IMO) They are lying hypocrites that stand for nothing. Obama is their king and McCain is their queen.:(
http://www.redstate.com/2013/09/27/lies-damn-...
Impeach Obama and ALL RINOs Today!
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Aggie23 wrote:
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Admittedly I skimmed it, but the only mention of court that I saw was that the city might sue the pension fund. Probably needs to be done, but the "defense money" will probably also come from the pension fund. And the unions will fight tooth and nail to stop future pension benefits for retirees or current employee paychecks from being reduced to try and recoup some of the money illegally handed out to those individuals who benefitted.
I just want to know that criminal charges will be filed and that people will be held accountable - and some will go to jail - fat chance. These people were no less responsible for their financial malfeasance than Bernie Madoff was of his. And they harmed far more people through their arrogance and stupidity.

And the problem appears to be happening in many gubmint pension accounts. gubmint has put the foxes in the henhouse with pension oversight, and taxpayers will eventually foot the bill.

Private citizens who lose out on the 401k investments have no recourse, but gubmint pensions which get robbed, always raise taxes to get their "higher than private citizens" pensions.

Everyone wants to work for gubmint..........

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Factcheck sucks, as do you.
so now you're whining again about sources, who does and and who does not question the source......well, the sites themselves are the sources, all one need do is dig deep which you are incapable of doing.
exemption = the process of freeing or state of being free from an obligation or liability imposed on others.
Using the convoluted or innocuous meaning above appears to be a tripwire for libroid socialists, or maybe a wire to hang themselves or tie them into knots.
A spade was a spade before the libroids got a hold of it. A gay was a condition of being merry or laughing until the libroids got a hold of it. A democrat was a good citizen until the libroids got a hold of it.
An Oh my was an explanation of sudden revelation, until the poster Oh my got a hold of it and turned it into a bowl of mush, a depression upon others when seen, and a fine example of a hairbrained, with a lot of loose nuts rambling around, sometimes making a complete azz of himself.
What I really love is that being the good liberal she is, her opinion of a source depends on if she is using it or not. I pretty much don't care anymore where a person's info comes from - its either accurate or not and can be investigated by looking at other sources. She is the one who loves to attack sources.

She shows her own flip flopping in the post she just made where she quotes HERSELF denigrating factcheck.org and then quotes my response.

" Oh my asked:
Uhmmmm, so factcheck.org is now an approved site, perhaps you can tell us specifically what aspects of the site lead to its approval rating."
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Then in the congressional subsidy exemption she uses factcheck for her own purposes. I wonder how many times a day her head spins. Sometimes factcheck gets it right and sometimes factcheck shows its bias - as it did in the congressional exemption article. They played the same word games she tried to in order to deny that Congress and their staffers were exempted from the subsidy calculations applicable to everyone else on the exchanges and were instead granted guaranteed subsidies they will receive-regardless of their income level.
just sayin

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And the problem appears to be happening in many gubmint pension accounts. gubmint has put the foxes in the henhouse with pension oversight, and taxpayers will eventually foot the bill.
Private citizens who lose out on the 401k investments have no recourse, but gubmint pensions which get robbed, always raise taxes to get their "higher than private citizens" pensions.
Everyone wants to work for gubmint..........
The majority of the stimulus was given to states because the retirement funds were insolvent.
just sayin

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clueless and uneducated
you sound like a broken record
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just sayin wrote:
<quoted text>The majority of the stimulus was given to states because the retirement funds were insolvent.

This I did not know.....
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What I really love is that being the good liberal she is, her opinion of a source depends on if she is using it or not. I pretty much don't care anymore where a person's info comes from - its either accurate or not and can be investigated by looking at other sources. She is the one who loves to attack sources.
She shows her own flip flopping in the post she just made where she quotes HERSELF denigrating factcheck.org and then quotes my response.
" Oh my asked:
Uhmmmm, so factcheck.org is now an approved site, perhaps you can tell us specifically what aspects of the site lead to its approval rating."
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Then in the congressional subsidy exemption she uses factcheck for her own purposes. I wonder how many times a day her head spins. Sometimes factcheck gets it right and sometimes factcheck shows its bias - as it did in the congressional exemption article. They played the same word games she tried to in order to deny that Congress and their staffers were exempted from the subsidy calculations applicable to everyone else on the exchanges and were instead granted guaranteed subsidies they will receive-regardless of their income level.
It has become rather sad, hasn't it? We've watched Oh my meltdown over the past couple of weeks. She just hangs on and on.
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It has become rather sad, hasn't it? We've watched Oh my meltdown over the past couple of weeks. She just hangs on and on.
Try not to be hard on Oh my or I.O. either. You see, they both suffer from Ocular Agendus Spinneriasus, a degenerative eye disease that only affects Liberals. They are able to see things their way or spin everything to fit their agenda. This is also why they idolize people like Obama, Pelosi, Reid, Michael Moore and others. They simply cannot help themselves. This is why Oh my will argue into the night as he/she cannot ever see the obvious. In other words, if you were to say, "The sky is blue", he she would spend whatever time it might take to try and prove you wrong.

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