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<quoted text> "Farmers' Almanac" WOW! Have you read a chickens' entrails yet? What did they predict?:)

They say it's really gonna be REAL cold. You dont have to worry though, you being a enuch and all.
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OMTE wrote:
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You're a liar. Ya dumb queer muslim.:(
The level of your rebuttal is simply amazing.

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Yeah, the evils of Socialism, a favorite whipping post of the clueless and uninformed.
Now, why are they burning...
http://www.fs.fed.us/projects/four-threats/qu...
Q: Wild fires burned nearly 9 million acres in 2006. What contributed to this catastrophe?
A: Forest managers and natural resource experts are in agreement that many decades of successful fire suppression is part of the reason, although large brush fires in Texas and Oklahoma in the winter months were also a factor. Fires can exact a heavy toll on the ecosystem and the economy of rural communities. Last year, fires disrupted hundreds of communities and forced thousands of people from their homes in the south and the western US, where the largest fires occurred.
Q: If fire suppression leads to bigger fires, why not just let them burn?
A: Where lightning fires are burning within desired parameters, those incidents can be managed for the beneficial effects of fire. However, that is not appropriate to every situation. The growth of the wildland-urban interface in the last 50 years means that lives and homes are at stake if a forest catches fire. The Forest Service does not “just let them burn”, every fire receives an appropriate management response. Fire will burn when conditions in the forest and the weather are right for it. However, fire is important part of the forest ecosystem. Some oaks and pines, for example, need fire to crack their seeds and regenerate. Suppressing fires had the unintended consequence of building up vegetation, debris, and other flammable materials on the forest floor. Add to this mix, drought and the crowded conditions in the forests. Once ignited, severe forest fires can occur. Unnaturally dense forests contribute to big fires. For instance, where 50 years ago only a few hundred trees grew on an acre, today thousands of trees are crowded in the same space. Multiply that by millions of acres of forests and you get the “combustible” picture. For another, many urban areas are being situated closer and closer to forested landscapes for their aesthetic and economic values. There is inherent danger in building homes in or near forestlands. People are not the only victims of forest fires: wildlife loses their habitat, hillsides erode into and silt up rivers, burnt mountains allow floods and floods wash away homes and businesses.
Q: What needs to be done?
A: Treatments to reduce fuels and restore ecosystems involve various techniques, including thinning, prescribed burning, and clearing the forest of debris. Post-fire rehabilitation includes restoring burned habitat and landscapes, repairing damaged roads and rivers, replanting trees, and preventing erosion.
Somehow not surprised that you left out a huge factor in the rise in extreme wildfires and the difficulty in fighting them - environmental extremism and government kowtowing to it.

For decades environmental groups opposed allowing logging companies to go in and thin forest and remove dead tress. Too many took the ignorant position that the best way to protect our forests is to place them off limits to all human intervention, logging mainly, but also including any attempts to clear undergrowth that fuels fires, clearing dead or diseased tress, clearing roadways to allow access for any of the above purposes, etc. Thus many of our forests have became powder kegs just waiting to explode with underbrush and dead trees just sitting there to help spread the fires. Those fires tend to burn hotter and can destroy the soil so that regrowth is hindered.
And then we can always look to the government for its own "contribution". Link below is illustrative.

David A. Ridenour | Wildfires: Environmentalism-driven policy endangers forests — and lives
Read more here: http://www.centredaily.com/2012/09/24/3347315...
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Oh my wrote:
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The level of your rebuttal is simply amazing.
You're welcome, dummy.*smilin*
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How wrote:
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As ugly eve would say, your "compression skills are lacking."
Nowhere did I say what you input. What I did say was our founding Fathers, many who were Christians, included in the constitution the same ideals as Jesus, that all men are equal under the law, from their understanding that all men are equal under the eyes of God.
The founding Fathers used the same concepts of equality, fairness, and justice that Jesus used, and without those teachings of Jesus, I do not believe man would have been capable or have the understanding to include those in the Constitution.
You are a liar, here is what you posted...

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
...The Constitution came as close as man can come to fulfilling the Ideals expressed by the Bible as we know it today. The Constitution was an effort, by man, to instill the ideals of Christianity established by Jesus, who fulfilled the Old Testament Law, given to man by God.
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No where in the US Constitution does it mention the coming of a messiah to fulfill Old Testament Law. No where in the US Constitution does it speak of the resurrections or a belief in Jesus to attain everlasting life. And as far as the equality of man before the eyes of God, Jesus' message was for the Jews, it was his later followers who took it to the Gentiles.

Besides you ignore the concepts of equality, fairness, and justice that are present in other religions which would have also been know to many of the founding fathers.

You are a known liar and perverter of history, it is clear that only perversion comes from your mouth.

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If Christianity had never taken root and flourished,(although that is inconceivable), we have no way of knowing what type of government we would be living under. But knowing man as I do, it would most likely be an oppressive government, similar to what most libroids want.
Just look to the most recent governments that are/were hostile to religion in general: the Soviet Union. Communist China, Cambodia's Khmer Rouge. Lovely examples of what happens when men think Man has all the answers.
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Aggie23 wrote:
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Somehow not surprised that you left out a huge factor in the rise in extreme wildfires and the difficulty in fighting them - environmental extremism and government kowtowing to it....
Looks like they've been moving to controlled burns for some time...

Forest fire strategy: Just let it go
Updated 11/7/2006
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/nation/20...

...Hescock's satisfaction reflects a shift in how the federal government approaches fire management. That shift began in earnest a decade ago and is gaining momentum. Land managers at the U.S. Forest Service and other agencies are becoming more comfortable co-existing with fire rather than reflexively trying to stomp it out with all the men and materiel at their command.

Their reasoning is that fire is a natural part of the landscape that clears out underbrush and small trees and creates forest openings in a mosaic pattern. Such conditions help keep small fires from growing into the kind of large, catastrophic blazes that have become increasingly common in recent years. They now say that decades of aggressively fighting fires was a mistake because it allowed forests to become overcrowded and ripe for fires nearly impossible to control.

"The mentality is changing," says Greg Aplet, a Denver-based fire scientist with The Wilderness Society, a national environmental group. As fires have burned more acres in recent years and the cost of fighting them has soared, "the obvious answer is not to fight fires we don't need to fight," Aplet says. Almost 9.5 million acres have burned so far in 2006.

The shift in thinking was formalized in a 1995 statement of federal fire policy, and strengthened in a 2001 revision. The policy recognizes that fire is "an essential ecological process," and that decades of trying to keep fires from burning have led, ironically, to "larger and more severe" conflagrations because of the buildup of underbrush and other fuel.

"The task before us — reintroducing fire — is both urgent and enormous," the 1995 policy concludes.
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Aggie23 wrote:
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Just look to the most recent governments that are/were hostile to religion in general: the Soviet Union. Communist China, Cambodia's Khmer Rouge. Lovely examples of what happens when men think Man has all the answers.
Yeah, who could imagine what mere humans could do without sanctioning an official religion.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/pream...
We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
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How wrote:
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How Now Brown Cow:
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
He's the first one to hyper-ventilate and blow a gasket. I would've thought I O.
Just following the new standard YOU set over the weekend.

Now the question becomes were you just hyper-ventilating, blowing off steam thru a blown gasket, not to be taken seriously as you spout your perverted hyperbole, or does your diseased mind seep thru and reveal it self in your every post.

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
Folks, this is what you get when a certified nutcase is allowed access to a computer. Lies, more Lies, and dam lies, courtesy of a poster ignorant of history and dependent on left wing socialist websites for information, whose sole purpose is to discredit our country, our founding fathers, and our Constitution along with the Bill of Rights.

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
A Perverter is a Pervert.

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
I’m not surprised by this perverts attempts to tear down the founding fathers. Why I be when the pervert approves, and most likely participates, in adult/child sexual relations.
He’s most likely on the local Sheriff’s list of “child molesters” who must register with local Police authorities.

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Most likely in the dempster dumpster, where all the other garbage is thrown.

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
you got your azz kicked with truth, tied up with barb wire, and pronounced on a public forum to show everyone the fool you are, and continue to be.

How Now Brown Cow enlists a sock puppet:
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
Well mr perverter:

Madison, nor Jefferson ever proposed the BS that IO is trying to pass off History .

Therefore you are a pervert of another nature, in addition to other pervert natures.

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
A lie upon a lie upon multiple lies do not add up to the truth. It only shows a fool will never learn.

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Oh my wrote:
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Yeah, who could imagine what mere humans could do without sanctioning an official religion.
http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/pream...
We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

Try again, I said nothing about sanctioning an official religion, my point was the nature of those governments hostile to religion. However, while recognizing that a "state religion" was not the ideal, most of the founders were religious men - some Christian, some Deist, some Theist - most all knew the folly of ignoring the logical conclusion that there was a Creator.
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Oh my wrote:
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Just following the new standard YOU set over the weekend.
Now the question becomes were you just hyper-ventilating, blowing off steam thru a blown gasket, not to be taken seriously as you spout your perverted hyperbole, or does your diseased mind seep thru and reveal it self in your every post.
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
Folks, this is what you get when a certified nutcase is allowed access to a computer. Lies, more Lies, and dam lies, courtesy of a poster ignorant of history and dependent on left wing socialist websites for information, whose sole purpose is to discredit our country, our founding fathers, and our Constitution along with the Bill of Rights.
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
A Perverter is a Pervert.
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
I’m not surprised by this perverts attempts to tear down the founding fathers. Why I be when the pervert approves, and most likely participates, in adult/child sexual relations.
He’s most likely on the local Sheriff’s list of “child molesters” who must register with local Police authorities.
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
Most likely in the dempster dumpster, where all the other garbage is thrown.
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
you got your azz kicked with truth, tied up with barb wire, and pronounced on a public forum to show everyone the fool you are, and continue to be.
How Now Brown Cow enlists a sock puppet:
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
Well mr perverter:
Madison, nor Jefferson ever proposed the BS that IO is trying to pass off History .
Therefore you are a pervert of another nature, in addition to other pervert natures.
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
A lie upon a lie upon multiple lies do not add up to the truth. It only shows a fool will never learn.
Bless your tiny little heart! ;) Ya'll muslims are so special...
http://www.irreligion.org/wp-content/uploads/...
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Oh my wrote:
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No, you perverted perverter...
The Hebrews got their religion from others who were established before them, the early Old Testament coming from the Sumerians. Later, upon their return from Babylon, they actually begin to write something down from their oral tradition, course by that time they were influenced by the Perisans, and the later Old Testament was heavily influnced by the Zorastorians.
And of course you limit the Religions of the World to those coming out of the Middle East while ignoring Hinduism, &#8206;Confucianism, Taoism, and Buddhism.
Better stick to what you actually know, namely, posting links from your favorite perverted right wing sites.
Ah the bizarre veiws of universalism.

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Oh my wrote:
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Looks like they've been moving to controlled burns for some time...
Forest fire strategy: Just let it go
Updated 11/7/2006
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/nation/20...
...Hescock's satisfaction reflects a shift in how the federal government approaches fire management. That shift began in earnest a decade ago and is gaining momentum. Land managers at the U.S. Forest Service and other agencies are becoming more comfortable co-existing with fire rather than reflexively trying to stomp it out with all the men and materiel at their command.
Their reasoning is that fire is a natural part of the landscape that clears out underbrush and small trees and creates forest openings in a mosaic pattern. Such conditions help keep small fires from growing into the kind of large, catastrophic blazes that have become increasingly common in recent years. They now say that decades of aggressively fighting fires was a mistake because it allowed forests to become overcrowded and ripe for fires nearly impossible to control.
"The mentality is changing," says Greg Aplet, a Denver-based fire scientist with The Wilderness Society, a national environmental group. As fires have burned more acres in recent years and the cost of fighting them has soared, "the obvious answer is not to fight fires we don't need to fight," Aplet says. Almost 9.5 million acres have burned so far in 2006.
The shift in thinking was formalized in a 1995 statement of federal fire policy, and strengthened in a 2001 revision. The policy recognizes that fire is "an essential ecological process," and that decades of trying to keep fires from burning have led, ironically, to "larger and more severe" conflagrations because of the buildup of underbrush and other fuel.
"The task before us — reintroducing fire — is both urgent and enormous," the 1995 policy concludes.
While most of those groups realized that their initial policies were disastrous (not least from a public relations standpoint) and so have "seen the light" when it comes to allowing some naturally occurring fire to burn. However, any fire, be it naturally caused or "controlled" must deal with the decades of undergrowth and dead trees and other debris that make ANY fire far more difficult to control and contain. And, when it comes to controlled burns, their change in position is more lip service than anything. Permits requested to allow controlled burns are often met with protests and litigation from environmental groups. And as always, as mentioned earlier, the government is involved. That means bureaucracy and slow motion.

http://www.thenewamerican.com/tech/environmen...
http://www.wctv.tv/home/headlines/56792477.ht...
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Aggie23 wrote:
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Just look to the most recent governments that are/were hostile to religion in general: the Soviet Union. Communist China, Cambodia's Khmer Rouge. Lovely examples of what happens when men think Man has all the answers.
Aggie, the Cambodian Khmer Rouge were not hostile to all religions. In fact, they drew many of their ideals from the Buddhist culture.
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Aggie23 wrote:
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http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
...Try again, I said nothing about sanctioning an official religion, my point was the nature of those governments hostile to religion. However, while recognizing that a "state religion" was not the ideal, most of the founders were religious men - some Christian, some Deist, some Theist - most all knew the folly of ignoring the logical conclusion that there was a Creator.
Well let's look at what your point was before you found the need to modify it...

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
Lovely examples of what happens when men think Man has all the answers.

Now let's look again at the actual document that established our secular government...

http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/pream...
We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

And let's look at the rest of the statement, while there are natrual rights flowing from the Creator, to whom do we turn to secure those rights....

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,..."

Just another example "of what happens when men think Man has all the answers".
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Really wrote:
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Ah the bizarre veiws of universalism.
Nope, just recognition of history without a cultural prejudice.
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Aggie23 wrote:
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While most of those groups realized that their initial policies were disastrous (not least from a public relations standpoint) and so have "seen the light" when it comes to allowing some naturally occurring fire to burn. However, any fire, be it naturally caused or "controlled" must deal with the decades of undergrowth and dead trees and other debris that make ANY fire far more difficult to control and contain. And, when it comes to controlled burns, their change in position is more lip service than anything. Permits requested to allow controlled burns are often met with protests and litigation from environmental groups. And as always, as mentioned earlier, the government is involved. That means bureaucracy and slow motion.
http://www.thenewamerican.com/tech/environmen...
http://www.wctv.tv/home/headlines/56792477.ht...
The fires burning now in the west, were set by Mexican Drug Cartels. They've been infesting our national forests for years. Now they are burning them down. We are being attacked by mexico and no one cares. Obama is letting them, because he wants to destroy this country.(IMO)Impeach Obama Today!
http://www.aolnews.com/2011/04/22/expert-sylv...
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Interesting article.
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/news/mexican...

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<quoted text>Aggie, the Cambodian Khmer Rouge were not hostile to all religions. In fact, they drew many of their ideals from the Buddhist culture.
I admittedly have no idea if the Khmer Rouge tried to "adopt" some Buddhist tenets into their ideology, but they definitely tried to wipe out Buddhism as a philosophy from the Cambodian culture. They persecuted adherents, murdered monks and destroyed temples.

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That was an extremely disturbing article, but why am I not in the least surprised that the former head of the Trans-Border Institute disputed the seriousness of the claims and instead suggested law enforcement was exaggerating the problem.

P.S. I am not ready to concede your position that the fires out west can be blamed on the cartels, but I am not denying it is possible.

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