Ohio Slipping Out Of Romney's Reach

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OHIO NOW LEANS OBAMA: ABC News Political Director Amy Walter notes that today's New York Times-CBS News-Quinnipiac poll is the fourth non-partisan media poll in a row to show President Obama not only ahead by a significant margin, but at or above 50 percent of the vote. Full Story

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#3015 Nov 29, 2012
WasteWater wrote:
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Rite to work has nothing to do with communism.
Are you kidding me? Communism is dead.
BTW, Russia and China own the United States' debt. What's more, China is rapidly becoming the economic super power of the world. What is your point? Do you have one or are you just ranting?
true Communism has never existed & just like Capitalism.

Since: Aug 11

Santa Cruz, CA

#3016 Nov 29, 2012
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>true Communism has never existed & just like Capitalism.
Communism was thought by some to be an ideal. If failed. Talking about communism today is the same as talking about the tooth fairy.

What a Jackass.

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#3017 Nov 29, 2012
WasteWater wrote:
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Communism was thought by some to be an ideal. If failed. Talking about communism today is the same as talking about the tooth fairy.
What a Jackass.
Karl Marxs invented those Terms Socialism, Communism & Capitalism and Capitalism is what Karl Marxs spent most of his life writing, 20 years.
Blacktigershark

Edmonton, Canada

#3018 Nov 29, 2012
xxxrayted wrote:
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Let's see, DumBama is willing to let us go over the cliff because he wants to raise taxes on people he dislikes, but the Republicans don't want a tax increase for anybody. But it's the Republicans fault.
I would tell DumBama that if he wants to increase taxes on those who typically don't vote Democrat, get rid of Commie Care and we have a deal.
I REALLY have to laugh at your sense of economics, because you really don't have any. You are so stupid and reactionary, that you just don't get it, do you? Let me try to point it out to you, dumbass!

America is in debt to MANY countries...some of them are BIG players (Saudi Arabia, China, Japan, Russia, Venezuela, Jordan, Japan, Iran, Egypt, Libya). For DECADES, successive American governments have shirked their debts, and it has come to the point where America cannot squirm out of their debts anymore, and war with some of these nations (China, Russia) is NOT AN OPTION! America would LOSE!

Americans now have to pay for their previous administration's mistakes in not paying down their debts, and spending money like it grows on trees, xxxrayted! That means EVERY American, not just the poor, as unconscionable scum like Republicans would like to see. In order to do this, tax rates will have to be INCREASED for EVERY American, so that America can pay its debts down, and regain its stellar credit rating by credit financiers like S&P (Standard and Poor is it?). What Obama is trying to do is tax those in the higher tax brackets and wage earners, to see if garnering any monies from them will be able to offset financial ruin from plaguing America, while giving the other people in lower tax groups an opportunity to squirrel their monies together, as tax increases are set to hit them too, just not as immediately as Obama would like to give those in lower tax brackets a head start on what is eventually going to come, xxxrayted! Taxes in America will go up for ALL in America, xxxrayted...it is INEVITABLE! You just don't get complex tax, do you, xxxrayted...it blows your mind, doesn't it...and here you are crying tears for the rich, while you are fine with seeing many of the hard working middle class and poor get taxed to non-existence (that means that taxes will kill them, so they won't exist, or they will simply seek amnesty in another country). Without the working middle class and the working poor, xxxrayted, where do you think these rich people would be, that you are crying tears for? Flipping RepubliSCUM want their cake and eat it too! They want the working middle class and the poor to work for the rich, AND they want to tax them more, so that they can be taxed less! So if 1 trillion was the tax revenue for America, for example, and the rich paid half a trillion in tax, while they made 900 trillion in a year, and the rest paid half a trillion, while making only 9 trillion that same year, then the rich these Republicans would think that it would be more fair that they pay 100 billion a year the next time around, while making the same 900 trillion, while making the rest pay 900 billion a year, when they have only made 9 trillion a year...now, this may seem alright to you, UNTIL you consider that the other group that you want to RAISE the taxes on are the ones that have put their blood, sweat and tears into these products that MOST of these big businesses, corporations and rich people have made their HUGE incomes off of!

Say, xxxrayted...if you didn't drop off your load to its destination, then what would the big man do? Do it himself? NO! He has many things to monitor...he just can't get off his butt and do one person's job. The rich NEED the poor...so in knowing that, they shouldn't complain about paying an extra 2% in tax to the government, so that these poor people can have their little castles also, and be able to afford to come into work the next day, so that they can keep them and America afloat!
Blacktigershark

Edmonton, Canada

#3019 Nov 29, 2012
You TRULY are a retard, xxxrayted! YOU don't make 200,000 a year, do you? I'm betting on NO, since you can't even net a profit (by your own claim) from a rental property! If you want to talk about what the government is trying to take from the rich, then maybe you should understand tax forms, and see what exemptions and standard deductions are given to EVERY American, much less the more deductions and exemptions that rich people can get away with when they do their taxes. If you had a true understanding of all these tax breaks that the rich get, you wouldn't be so quick to cry for them.

It makes no sense that someone that earns 180,000 is paying MORE tax than someone making 270,000, does it, xxxrayted? Again, you still don't get it, but how could you, if you don't know the slightest about 401K's, charity tax amnesties, capital gains/losses deductions, business exemptions and deductions, etc. A business may get so many tax dollars back, that they actually turn out to be the beneficiaries of these 'hand-outs' that you are talking about, to the tune of MILLIONS and BILLIONS of dollars, though you are SO focussed on the taxes that you believe that should be paid by those that can't afford to pay any more tax to the government, without losing practically everything they have, xxxrayted...so tell me, xxxrayted...if we flip it around, as Republicans would like to do, and tax the poor, instead of the rich, of which we know what will happen to the poor if taxes are raised on them at this point of stagnant growth in America xxxrayted...so, if taxes are raised on you, xxxrayted, considering that you don't make 250,000 a year, are YOU willing to pay an extra 1, 2, 3, 10% in tax to the government, so that the rich are protected, while hoping that while you have paid extra in tax to the government, that the rich will end up 'trickling down' these monies to you, in order to bail you out from total financial implosion, xxxrayted? I think that the government has given the rich enough opportunities to do this, and what it has resulted in is the big business of off-shore accounts, xxxrayted! Just wait until FATCA comes into play in January of 2013...you will finally see what the rich have been doing with the privileges that the American government has given them for decades...you will see how LITTLE the rich care about you or America, when the government has given them these financial breaks for decades...though you continue to sob for them, as if they care about you, and have done things like reduce the interest you are paying on your mortgages, or your car payment, or on your banking transactions for example, xxxrayted.

You TRULY are the perfect poster boy idiot for the rich...to preach to the masses that the rich are the victims here, and that the masses should work more, work harder and pay more taxes, so that the rich can kick back and enjoy their tax breaks, while not giving back anything to America or the masses! That is the Republican ideal, isn't it? Truly pathetic!
xxxrayted wrote:
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That's what we Republicans have been saying all along. DumBama won because he is the hand-out President. He bought the election because Americans have become so greedy they found their Robin Hood that will take from the wealthy and give to them.
No kidding people say they want the wealthy to pay more tax! If somebody said that we are going to tax Cuz and give to me, I would vote for that too!
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#3020 Nov 29, 2012
WasteWater wrote:
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So in other word you just talk shit and don't do crap to improve anything. I got it. I actually hire people so I do create jobs. You have no idea what you are talking about son.
Who did you hire? Your paper boy?

It's amazing how many libs come to this forum that work for themselves or have companies. Me? I'm the only worker here.

It's funny how on the internet, you can be anything you wish to be. Just make it up.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#3021 Nov 29, 2012
emperorjohn wrote:
<quoted text> The tax rates on the rich was much higher in the 1950s and that era was the one that had the highest productivity. I am not asking for a return to 50s tax rate but merely that of the 1990s.
Republicans are more than willing to go along with those plans provided we have the spending that we had in the 90's as well. I don't think DumBama is going to go for it.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#3022 Nov 29, 2012
emperorjohn wrote:
<quoted text> When O took office in 2008, we were losing 800k a month. Now we are gaining 100k a month.
That would be nice except for the fact that in order to keep up with population, we need at least 125,000 per month.

Creating 100,000 jobs is worth boasting about if you didn't lose 105,000. That's how we end up with the same amount of people working as before he took office.
Blacktigershark

Edmonton, Canada

#3023 Nov 29, 2012
Here's an idea...all you Republican faithful that want to pay more money to save the afflicted rich should make up an emergency ledger, saying that you all are willing to pay 10% more to the government come this year, so that you can protect your precious rich class. If you are willing to do this, then maybe Obama will look at how much you Republican faithful are willing to contribute on top of what you are going to be taxed this fiscal year, and maybe after looking at what you all are willing to contribute, and what all this money you faithful Republicans are willing to give to the government is sufficient enough to afford the rich a tax break. If it IS, xxxrayted, then Obama wouldn't have to raise the taxes on the rich, he would just raise it on idiotic Republican faithful like yourself, if that is what will net at least the same amount of revenue that the government needs in order to avoid going over the fiscal cliff, xxxrayted! From there, you can get on your knees, and pray for something that apathetic Republican faithful have been praying for...FOR YEARS...which is that the Republican party isn't lying and poking Republican faithful in the bum with their broken promises and lies, where it comes to 'trickling down' monies in order to keep the American business economy going. So far, these prayers have gone unanswered, xxxrayted...but feel free to round up your Republican faithful, so that you can dive on the sword for the rich that you figure will pay for your healthcare treatment, when you all do jump on that sword for them, thus saving their lives, while hoping that that favour is returned when you are laying in a hospital bed, half-dead, hoping that the Republican candidates and the rich people that you saved are going to repay your loyalty, by not letting you die in that hospital bed, simply because you lobbied against 'Obamacare', and now you don't have the benefit of having what you call 'Commie Care' to save you from your foolish self, while the rich and these scumbag Republicans laugh at your sacrifice for their own benefit, xxxrayted...

All laughing aside, though, xxxrayted...IT IS TIME FOR ACTION! Stop talking about how disappointed you are...TAKE ACTION! I suggest you make a new thread on here, called "Republican faithful for the amnesty of the rich", and see how many of these other Republican faithful that want to sign up to pay 10% MORE in taxes this year, in order to save the rich from higher taxes...from there, I would like to see how much you Republican faithful are willing to pay 10% more in taxes, in order to save the rich, while saving America from going over the fiscal cliff at the same time, with the HOPES of having the rich TRICKLE DOWN their wealth to the nation and to you faithful Republicans, that have sacrificed yourselves for them and the nation! How much you want to bet that YOU wouldn't even volunteer YOUR money to save the rich, yet you believe that DECREASING taxes for all will stimulate the economy, even though this has been done before, and it didn't really work, right xxxrayted? Give your head a shake, dumbass!
xxxrayted wrote:
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And how many jobs has DumBama created? No, I don't mean the jobs he claims, I'm talking about the actual amount of people working today.
Four years, and we have less people working today than when he took office. We have around the same amount of unemployment. We have record poverty levels. And you want to blame Bush and Reagan?
The top 10% of wage earners in this country pay 71% of all collected federal taxes. If that's not enough, then what is? Give me a number. Is it 80% 85%, 90%? What percentage should the top 10% pay for the rest of us 90%?
There is no solution by taxing couples making over $250,000 per year. It's one thing if we could solve a problem or two, but quite another when it doesn't do one bit of good. We have plenty of money to run the government. Our problem is what we spend.

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#3024 Nov 29, 2012
xxxrayted wrote:
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Who did you hire? Your paper boy?
It's amazing how many libs come to this forum that work for themselves or have companies. Me? I'm the only worker here.
It's funny how on the internet, you can be anything you wish to be. Just make it up.
You are not the ONLY worker here, smartass.
Everybodys' got to serve somebody.
Duke for Mayor

Massillon, OH

#3025 Nov 29, 2012
xxxrayted wrote:
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Who did you hire? Your paper boy?
It's amazing how many libs come to this forum that work for themselves or have companies. Me? I'm the only worker here.
It's funny how on the internet, you can be anything you wish to be. Just make it up.
Its amazing how envious you are of others.

woof

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#3026 Nov 29, 2012
xxxrayted wrote:
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That would be nice except for the fact that in order to keep up with population, we need at least 125,000 per month.
Creating 100,000 jobs is worth boasting about if you didn't lose 105,000. That's how we end up with the same amount of people working as before he took office.
The wedges between productivity and median compensation growth ... www.epi.org/publication/ib330-productivity-vs...

Apr 26, 2012 ... Income inequality has grown over the last 30 years or more driven by three dynamics: rising inequality of labor income (wages and compensation), rising ... of unpublished total economy data from Bureau of Labor Statistics,...

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#3027 Nov 29, 2012
xxxrayted wrote:
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That would be nice except for the fact that in order to keep up with population, we need at least 125,000 per month.
Creating 100,000 jobs is worth boasting about if you didn't lose 105,000. That's how we end up with the same amount of people working as before he took office.
Give it up XX. Nobody's buying it anymore, cept you and Kennesaw.

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Acworth, GA

#3028 Nov 29, 2012
Duke for Mayor wrote:
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Its amazing how envious you are of others.
woof
ROFLMAO..... Look who's talking!

Since: Aug 11

Santa Cruz, CA

#3029 Nov 29, 2012
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>Karl Marxs invented those Terms Socialism, Communism & Capitalism and Capitalism is what Karl Marxs spent most of his life writing, 20 years.
Karl Marx theories were a big failure. For example, he defined labor as the basis of wealth. This would mean a person raking and blowing leaves would be the same value as a person with higher skills using tools and equipment to do more work. Actually, labor is losing value every day. It is resources which are the basis of wealth. Thought you might like to know that.

Since: Aug 11

Santa Cruz, CA

#3030 Nov 29, 2012
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>Karl Marxs invented those Terms Socialism, Communism & Capitalism and Capitalism is what Karl Marxs spent most of his life writing, 20 years.
BTW, Karl Marx is pretty much irrelevant to anything useful. His theories didn't work. He was a useless intellectual. In today's world a leaf raker would be more valuable than Karl Marx.

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#3031 Nov 29, 2012
WasteWater wrote:
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BTW, Karl Marx is pretty much irrelevant to anything useful. His theories didn't work. He was a useless intellectual. In today's world a leaf raker would be more valuable than Karl Marx.
problem is Karl Marx's writing are the bases of Leninism, Trotskyism, Stalinism, Maoism, and even here in the US which American Capitalism is nothing more than a hybird form of Socialism and besides what Karl Marxs would call the US economy a Mixed Economy because the US mixes parts of all three economical systems tries to incorporated them and the US is proving Karls Marxs right when he said Mixed economies will fail.
UIdiotRaceMakeWo rldPeace

United States

#3032 Nov 29, 2012
Finally a Place of thinkers!

Since: Aug 11

Santa Cruz, CA

#3033 Nov 29, 2012
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>problem is Karl Marx's writing are the bases of Leninism, Trotskyism, Stalinism, Maoism, and even here in the US which American Capitalism is nothing more than a hybird form of Socialism and besides what Karl Marxs would call the US economy a Mixed Economy because the US mixes parts of all three economical systems tries to incorporated them and the US is proving Karls Marxs right when he said Mixed economies will fail.
All those things have come and gone. The fact of the matter is Russia and China are holding all our debt. China is rapidly becoming the economic powerhouse of the world. What were you saying about economics? Do you have a point?

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#3034 Nov 29, 2012
WasteWater wrote:
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Karl Marx theories were a big failure. For example, he defined labor as the basis of wealth. This would mean a person raking and blowing leaves would be the same value as a person with higher skills using tools and equipment to do more work. Actually, labor is losing value every day. It is resources which are the basis of wealth. Thought you might like to know that.
Labor is what creates wealth initially by producing objects with use value but that is communism your describing when the higher skilled worker is paid the same as the lower skill worker that is the classless society which they are both equal economically but applying it in Society, I cant even see true communism working either and Karl Marxs got that wrong, Society never gave up the Class Society.

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