Palestinians angry over Romney's culture remark

Jul. 30, 2012 - Mitt Romney enraged Palestinians by saying a better "culture" explains Israel's economic dominance in the latest remark on his overseas tour that critics are calling a gaffe. Full Story

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#1 Jul 30, 2012
you just cant make this stuff up.
priceless.

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#2 Jul 30, 2012
Palestinians angry ? no......i do not believe it!

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#3 Jul 30, 2012
It is time for the world to explain to the Palestinians what they are doing wrong. Their Hezbollah leaders are trying to make a big show by building factory and business buildings that have no tennants. What the hell? The world needs to quit feeding and fanning these people when the money goes for stupid stuff instead of its intended use.

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#4 Jul 30, 2012
seedtick wrote:
Their Hezbollah leaders are trying to make a big show by building factory and business buildings that have no tennants.
Perhaps the buildings would be more likely to have people and equipment and business in them if the Israeli occupation allowed Palestinians to travel freely across their land rather than stopping them every several miles by checkpoints or forcing them into long detours to bypass the walls surrounding their towns. Or if the occupation were not imposing prohibitive processes on Palestinians seeking permits to operate businesses.

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#5 Jul 31, 2012
In_the_Dark wrote:
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Perhaps the buildings would be more likely to have people and equipment and business in them if the Israeli occupation allowed Palestinians to travel freely across their land rather than stopping them every several miles by checkpoints or forcing them into long detours to bypass the walls surrounding their towns. Or if the occupation were not imposing prohibitive processes on Palestinians seeking permits to operate businesses.
Maybe, just maybe, the Israelis would allow Palestinians to "roam freely" if the Hezbollah terrorists were not around and the Iranians were prevented from furnishing rockets and other weapons to them. It is the hatred preached by the Islamists that fuel this situation.

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#6 Jul 31, 2012
seedtick wrote:
Maybe, just maybe, the Israelis would allow Palestinians to "roam freely" if the Hezbollah terrorists were not around ...
Maybe, just maybe an Israeli military presence in the West Bank would not be necessary if the Israeli government did not permit West Bank settlement development. There would be no need to secure Israeli-only settlements and the Israeli-only roads leading to them that are located all over the occupied West Bank mere yards from Palestininan towns. Maybe then Palestinians would not feel the need to balance the Israeli military presence they meet in their daily lives with militants of their own, to equalize what's now a very unequal relationship.

I can't support violence except in true self-defense, but you can't expect people to be surrounded by armed forces and not feel the need to take guard with arms of their own, much less build a thriving economy within those constraints.

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#7 Jul 31, 2012
In_the_Dark wrote:
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Maybe, just maybe an Israeli military presence in the West Bank would not be necessary if the Israeli government did not permit West Bank settlement development. There would be no need to secure Israeli-only settlements and the Israeli-only roads leading to them that are located all over the occupied West Bank mere yards from Palestininan towns. Maybe then Palestinians would not feel the need to balance the Israeli military presence they meet in their daily lives with militants of their own, to equalize what's now a very unequal relationship.
I can't support violence except in true self-defense, but you can't expect people to be surrounded by armed forces and not feel the need to take guard with arms of their own, much less build a thriving economy within those constraints.
For years the Palestinians lived side by side with the Israelis. They worked in Israli factories, farms, etc. The only reason for Israeli border security was caused by the attacks upon Israel by Muslims (not necessarily Palistenians)because they opposed Israel as a nation. The British planted the original seeds of hatred with their mandate and the way they handled the formation of Israel. Those in the Arab world who want to control Palestine will never allow Israel to live in peace. If Hezbollah were to disappear and the Syrians and Iranians were neutralized, a good beginning of peace would exist. But, with the Arab Spring, all hope for a stable Arab world is gone for now. So, you can expect Israel to hold a hard line to protect themselves. There is no need to "balance" the Israeli presence with terrorist attacks. If there are no attacks the Israelis will not take any forceful action.
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#8 Jul 31, 2012
The "Palestinians" having a rip-roaring celebration in the streets on 9/11, putting on fake funerals and "freely" electing Hamas to be their leadership is burnt indelibly into any cognizant current brain. The Arab inclination to destroy infrastructure given them simply because it was built by Jews is frosting. "Palestinian" TV indoctrinating pre-schoolers with "rocks will proclaim there's a Jew hiding behind me" puppet propaganda is disgusting, violence prone and evil. Those people, abandoned by their own States, are inherently sick. The Jews feed their worthless asses and still they complain.

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#9 Jul 31, 2012
seedtick wrote:
There is no need to "balance" the Israeli presence with terrorist attacks. If there are no attacks the Israelis will not take any forceful action.
I'll agree that outside influences do affect what happens in Israel and the Palestinian territories, and so does the past, and that Palestinians share the responsibility to maintain peace, but I fundamentally disagree on the question of balance. Palestinians are not Israelis and are not represented by Israelis. They are without a state. They are undemocratically occupied by Israel and its very strong military. Their lives are lived around the desires of the Israeli government and especially the wants of settlers across the West Bank. They have no effective vote on this situation. No, Palestinians are not treated as equal partners, and representing this, right in their faces, is the Israeli military.

If a foreign power's armed forces presented themselves to me in my home region, I would certainly feel threatened and consider arming myself for self-defense. I can't support violence, especially against humans, but some others would be quite willing to show them who's boss of the land by carrying out violent acts. Likewise, Palestinians have little recourse in their undemocratic, stateless situation but either to shut up and take it or to "balance" the powerful Israeli military might with their own demonstrations of power. What else can they do?

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#10 Jul 31, 2012
In_the_Dark wrote:
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I'll agree that outside influences do affect what happens in Israel and the Palestinian territories, and so does the past, and that Palestinians share the responsibility to maintain peace, but I fundamentally disagree on the question of balance. Palestinians are not Israelis and are not represented by Israelis. They are without a state. They are undemocratically occupied by Israel and its very strong military. Their lives are lived around the desires of the Israeli government and especially the wants of settlers across the West Bank. They have no effective vote on this situation. No, Palestinians are not treated as equal partners, and representing this, right in their faces, is the Israeli military.
If a foreign power's armed forces presented themselves to me in my home region, I would certainly feel threatened and consider arming myself for self-defense. I can't support violence, especially against humans, but some others would be quite willing to show them who's boss of the land by carrying out violent acts. Likewise, Palestinians have little recourse in their undemocratic, stateless situation but either to shut up and take it or to "balance" the powerful Israeli military might with their own demonstrations of power. What else can they do?
Consider this:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/738064...
Look at the maps and see what has been done. When threatened the Israeli Army has always responded forcefully. They must do so because their country is so small. The Palestinians have always had the backing of the Arab world. All the Israelis ask for is to be left to exist peacefully. But, the hatred for anything Jewish is front and center all the time. If, for one moment, you believe Israel could remove its security forces from the border areas and feel safe, you are sadly mistaken. Like I said before, if Hezbollah were to vanish from Palestine and Lebanon, peace would have a chance. And, I have not mentioned the hate that is taught to Palestinian school children.

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#11 Jul 31, 2012
seedtick wrote:
Consider this:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/738064...
Look at the maps and see what has been done. When threatened the Israeli Army has always responded forcefully. They must do so because their country is so small. The Palestinians have always had the backing of the Arab world. All the Israelis ask for is to be left to exist peacefully....
I'm not suggesting that Israel cease defending its borders. Israel should be allowed to be left alone in peace and safety.

But where does that leave the Palestinians? Must they remain stateless and controlled by Israel? Must they constantly defer to the settlers and their "needs" (wants, really), on land that the 1947 and 1949 maps you cite indicate was never meant to be Israel's at all? Must they rely on foreign militaries for their defense, militaries that represent foreign interests and not Palestinians'? Must they never, ever become a sovereign people with a democratic vote?

We can talk at length about who's responsible for what and events of the past, but Israelis and Palestinians have to move on. How? I can see they will never get anywhere so long as Palestinians cannot freely cross the West Bank, Nablus to Hebron and points between and beyond, without encountering checkpoints, walls, and other Israeli military installations established for the sole benefit of non-Palestinians, especially settlers. Israel can practice as much border self-defense as it needs, but why treat every acre of that 20-to-40-mile-wide West Bank as a defended border when it precludes the freedom and prosperity of the Palestinians?

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#12 Aug 1, 2012
In_the_Dark wrote:
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I'm not suggesting that Israel cease defending its borders. Israel should be allowed to be left alone in peace and safety.
But where does that leave the Palestinians? Must they remain stateless and controlled by Israel? Must they constantly defer to the settlers and their "needs" (wants, really), on land that the 1947 and 1949 maps you cite indicate was never meant to be Israel's at all? Must they rely on foreign militaries for their defense, militaries that represent foreign interests and not Palestinians'? Must they never, ever become a sovereign people with a democratic vote?
We can talk at length about who's responsible for what and events of the past, but Israelis and Palestinians have to move on. How? I can see they will never get anywhere so long as Palestinians cannot freely cross the West Bank, Nablus to Hebron and points between and beyond, without encountering checkpoints, walls, and other Israeli military installations established for the sole benefit of non-Palestinians, especially settlers. Israel can practice as much border self-defense as it needs, but why treat every acre of that 20-to-40-mile-wide West Bank as a defended border when it precludes the freedom and prosperity of the Palestinians?
I am very sympathetic to the plight of the Palestinians. But, at present they are held hostage by outside terrorists. And, if it was not for munitions smuggling there would be much more freedom of movement for them. They could have already had their own defined and recognized nation if these thugs were not there. But, these Islamist thugs are there...and they are teaching the children of Palestine to hate. These children know little of the outside world...only what they see in the media and much of that is controlled by the likes of Al Jezera.

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Brewster, NY

#14 Aug 1, 2012
Israel has a more Intelligent culture.

If anything Israel is even more scummy.

Israeli Mafias, prostitution, fraud & manipulation are out of control.

Jews are sneaky scum.

Jews have planned terrorism against the U.S like the Lavon affair & wanted to blame it on Egypt!

Then Jews bombed the U.S.S Liberty!

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#15 Aug 1, 2012
Everyone should think about this:
When a social reformer or liberal hears the word "culture" they immediately think of race and ethnicity.
When a business executive or economist is talking about the economy or a budget he/she often refers to the "culture" of a business or government.
These are two absolutely different things.

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