Vatican Denies Pope's Dirty War' Past

Vatican Denies Pope's Dirty War' Past

There are 23 comments on the go.com story from Mar 15, 2013, titled Vatican Denies Pope's Dirty War' Past. In it, go.com reports that:

Argentina's Cardinal Jorge Bergoglio gives a Mass outside the San Cayetano church where an Argentine flag hangs behind in Buenos Aires, Aug.

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“Boot to the Head”

Since: Jul 08

Mogadore, OH

#23 May 2, 2013
Ella wrote:
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THE ONLY CHURCH???? The Vatican has all of these parish priests who were exposed for their sexual crimes against innocent children they were entrusted to shepherd and train up in the ways of the Lord. The Vatican comes up with a 'brilliant' solution: 1) rather than removing the perpetrators of the sexual abuse, you simply move them to another parish and what? hope they don't get caught the next time. 2) to address damage control you erect billboards and signs, and take out ads in newspapers telling former Catholics,'come back and we will welcome you with open arms', Come on!! How stupid do you think people really are? People don't want to attend churches were their family members may be at risk. Trust has been broken. Integrity has been stripped away. The veil of deception still remains. And what about the innocent lives of those children (some now adults) whom your priests committed those sexual crimes against? Did you think your 'hush money' to the victims will undo the grievous physical, emotional, social, financial and spiritual WOUNDS they must now bare (some for the rest of their lives)? Lastly, what about the gospel message? Don't you think that the Vatican's solutions and their priests actions have mocked God and His Word and branded those Catholics who are seriously embracing their belief and walk with the Lord? Not to mention those currently in seminary. How does the Vatican justify and rationalize this? How will priests now address their contributions to society's ills from their pulpits? These are grievous WOUNDS committed against God, man, local communities and society at large! They cannot be swept under the rug.
You are confusing the accepted psychological theory of the 1970's and 1980's with the new evangelization of the 21st century.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#24 May 3, 2013
Ella wrote:
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THE ONLY CHURCH???? The Vatican has all of these parish priests who were exposed for their sexual crimes against innocent children they were entrusted to shepherd and train up in the ways of the Lord. The Vatican comes up with a 'brilliant' solution: 1) rather than removing the perpetrators of the sexual abuse, you simply move them to another parish and what? hope they don't get caught the next time. 2) to address damage control you erect billboards and signs, and take out ads in newspapers telling former Catholics,'come back and we will welcome you with open arms', Come on!! How stupid do you think people really are? People don't want to attend churches were their family members may be at risk. Trust has been broken. Integrity has been stripped away. The veil of deception still remains. And what about the innocent lives of those children (some now adults) whom your priests committed those sexual crimes against? Did you think your 'hush money' to the victims will undo the grievous physical, emotional, social, financial and spiritual WOUNDS they must now bare (some for the rest of their lives)? Lastly, what about the gospel message? Don't you think that the Vatican's solutions and their priests actions have mocked God and His Word and branded those Catholics who are seriously embracing their belief and walk with the Lord? Not to mention those currently in seminary. How does the Vatican justify and rationalize this? How will priests now address their contributions to society's ills from their pulpits? These are grievous WOUNDS committed against God, man, local communities and society at large! They cannot be swept under the rug.
And, we get another usage of the de facto "Godwin's Law" for any discussion of Catholicism. The sex scandal.

Ella is now on record as being bereft of an argument on the issue at hand.

“Don't Tread on Me!”

Since: Apr 10

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#25 May 3, 2013
Cathoholic wrote:
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Among other things, this is one of my favorite outright lies. Not that I blame you for buying into it. It is a common misconception (like many that you listed).
1) Easter is an english word from the month when spring starts. Also named for a pagan fertility goddess.
2) Easter is not the name that the Catholic Church uses for the day or season when the Ressurection of our Lord is celebrated. It is an English word.
3) The English language (as well as some others) contains many other such words taken from pagan worship. Primarily the names of most of the days of the week.(Woden's day, Thor's day, Freya's day)
You can say that, and my misselettes all said EASTER in them, As in 1st Week of Easter, 2nd Week of Easter, etc. I already know about the origins of the days of the week. What you can't deny is the pagan traditions, even 'Easter Egg hunts'; embraced by the church in relation to celebrating this holiday. The moved the Sabbath for Pete's sake, to SUNday, which honors the sun god, Apollo. Christ was actually born in the spring time, but we have the church setting the date on the pagan solstice festival with the usual pagan traditions of that holiday incorporated into our Christmas celebration. This is just barely scratching the surface.
Judge a tree by the fruit it produces. I see in your post prior to this one; yet another explanation from a catholic, acknowledging more sinful and reprehensible behavior by the church, and the assurance that 'reform' has since taken place and it's all good now. How many times have we catholics had to do that???? lol

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