Coyote Killing Contest Sparks Outrage...

Coyote Killing Contest Sparks Outrage in New Mexico

There are 1270 comments on the ABC News story from Nov 17, 2012, titled Coyote Killing Contest Sparks Outrage in New Mexico. In it, ABC News reports that:

A gun store-sponsored competition in which hunters shoot and kill as many coyotes as they can has sparked outrage among activists in New Mexico who have called it a "heinous killing contest." Animal Protection of New Mexico posted a petition on its website, rallying against the contest, which is sponsored by Gunhawk Firearms of Los Lunas.

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“Why call 911? 1911 is faster”

Since: Feb 08

Wesley Chapel, FL

#336 Nov 23, 2012
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
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"But the again suppose by some miracle I catch a childs puppy. What they dont know dont affect them."
Churm, This is the worst untruth you have ever said on the net that I know of! Not knowing what has happened to a beloved pet is FAR WORSE than knowing they are dead! I could not even imagine the pain of always wondering if they are hurt somewhere, trapped, lost, frightened, hungry, lonely, being abused by somebody, searching for home, etc.. At least knowing they are with God can give some closure.
I've lost all my dogs to cancer and as hard as that was, I was able to deal with it and go on. If I lost one of my dogs in the wild, my life as I know it would end! I envision laying awake every night for the rest of my life just listening and hoping and praying and crying! But then I don't expect you to understand the love a human can feel for a dog.
If you put hope in one hand and a prayer in the other, what do you get?

Your life as you know it would end at the loss of a dog? Really? You’re an emotional train wreck.

“Why call 911? 1911 is faster”

Since: Feb 08

Wesley Chapel, FL

#337 Nov 23, 2012
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
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You don't have the proper habitat for ivory bills, so no need to worry about that.
I would welcome any endangered species. This way I know I could do my part to help them survive. In addition, I wouldn't tell anybody about it, so the Gestapo can't take over my land or tell me what I can or can't do with it. They don't do that so much anymore because they know alot of people think that way. They will reimburse people for lost profits too.
BTW, Alot of people are willing to pay alot of money to see an Ivory-bill. You could use that to your advantage.
You just gave me a splendid idea. We’ll relocate all the coyotes, opossum and raccoons to your property. You could save them all.

“Why call 911? 1911 is faster”

Since: Feb 08

Wesley Chapel, FL

#338 Nov 23, 2012
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
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How do you know a turtle will travel 100 miles to get home? Have you tagged one and seen it again?
The box turtle is just one example which will travel long distances to return home. Churmedgeon appears to be posting from Arkansas where the box turtle is common which is why my focus here is on the box turtle.

When a box turtle is removed from its home range and relocated, it will generally not stay in a new, unfamiliar location. Instead, the displaced turtle will travel long distances in order to relocate their original home. Source: http://crowleyapes.wiki.lovett.org/Questions+...

You actually know very little about wildlife.

“O'er the land of the free ? ”

Since: Jan 09

Don't Tread On Me

#339 Nov 23, 2012
Hey EC when you get a second check out this thread , I think I am going to buy this as one of two carry pieces.

http://www.topix.com/forum/guns/TQOOUJLFFNOBE...

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#340 Nov 23, 2012
Where Is My America wrote:
<quoted text>This is not a joke :
In the Netherlands they are going to have a DNA database on all dogs and cats and if you don't clean up after your pet they are going to take a sample and compare it to the database and send you a fine.
When I'm in an area where people or other pets walk, I always clean up after my dogs. If not, they are animals and all animals deficate. It's totally natural and it decomposes, so I don't worry about it. I would not pay any fine. I wouldn't live in the Netherlands either.

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#341 Nov 23, 2012
uen Victoria wrote:
We must allow the coyote to predominate over humans for political reasons.
It is far better to allow coyotes and wolves to predate upon our cows and sheep than to allow humans to eat meat.
Humans must not be allowed to eat meat.
It is far better to slaughter an unborn child in the womb than to allow the inevitable progression of matter , the dialectic of Marx, to be impeded by such niceties of thought such as ,"humans have value."
Now, in our brave new age, we have nothing to do but eschew the dictum:
Superbium Initium Omnis Peccati
Oh grow up! Nobody said we can't or shouldn't eat meat or that the coyote or wolf should predominate over man!

God created all creatures and put them all here on earth to share the land. We've tried that elimimating the predators thing and it didn't turn out so well.

Man can protect his livestock from the offenders, but he has no rights to seek out and eradicate animals that are not threatening, unless it's for his very survival. We will survive and eat meat even with coyotes and wolves in the world!

This earth needs a healthy balance of both predators and prey to sustain a healathy ecosystem. And the planet consists of more than just humans ad cows.

If you want mice, rats, and other small mammals to take over the world, eliminate the predators.

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#342 Nov 23, 2012
eternal cynic wrote:
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Your argument is so weak you felt it necessary to bring a child into the debate. Where I live it’s illegal to allow your dog outside unrestrained by leash or fence. I too will deal with a dog on my property in a manner I deem appropriate.
My yard IS fenced. Maybe you missed the part about the meter reader leaving the gate open. The point still remains, the dog does not deserve death for walking on someone's property, no matter how special you think you are.

What you consider a weak argument is a very real scenerio.

Another time, we had guests who brought their 4 year old grandchild over. The kid wanted to play with the dog. He tried opening the gate even after I told him that was absolutely out of the question. When I turned away, he tried opening it again. Needless to say, the third time it happened I was not so nice in my correcting him. If I had been at work, what would have happened?

Sometimes dogs get out. Big deal. That's why God gave most humans a heart and a brain.

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#343 Nov 23, 2012
eternal cynic wrote:
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Have you ever seen the damage done by raccoons? What about the damage Opossum do?
Same right to life we do? Who gave them that right? Your invisible boogie man? Do find where in your bible animals are given rights by your deity of choice.
Have you ever seen the damage deer can do? What about humans? Do you advocate elimination of those species too?

I once had squirrels chew a hole in my roof and get into my attic. I made sure all of them were out and fixed my roof. They haven't tried getting back in...yet...that I know of. But I don't advocate going into the wild and killing all squirrels either just because they do damage, or have the ability to do damage.

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#344 Nov 23, 2012
eternal cynic wrote:
<quoted text>
If you put hope in one hand and a prayer in the other, what do you get?
Your life as you know it would end at the loss of a dog? Really? You’re an emotional train wreck.
No, I'm not. I just have feelings for things other than myself. And I wouldn't change that for anything.

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#345 Nov 23, 2012
eternal cynic wrote:
<quoted text>
You just gave me a splendid idea. We’ll relocate all the coyotes, opossum and raccoons to your property. You could save them all.
What part did you miss about a "healthy ecosystem?" I already have the raccoons and opossums that my half acre can sustain. This is a picture of my raccoon friend. She has raised no fewer than eight babies in my yard.
http://www.naturecardsforyou.com/Documents/Ra...

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#346 Nov 23, 2012
eternal cynic wrote:
<quoted text>
The box turtle is just one example which will travel long distances to return home. Churmedgeon appears to be posting from Arkansas where the box turtle is common which is why my focus here is on the box turtle.
When a box turtle is removed from its home range and relocated, it will generally not stay in a new, unfamiliar location. Instead, the displaced turtle will travel long distances in order to relocate their original home. Source: http://crowleyapes.wiki.lovett.org/Questions+...
You actually know very little about wildlife.
I know a whole lot more about wildlife than what you think I know! Nature photograthy is my hobby and my passion. A nature photographer has to know their subjects very well. I have lots of experience with raccoons and many different forms of wildlife, though my specialty is birds.

I ask these questions because I want that person to site their source of information. I've found too many people just repeat myths and old wives' tales that have passed from one generation to the next about wildlife.

What I try to do is get at the truth after years of actual studies performed by experts, and present that to people who still believe falsities and kill animals unnecessarily under those false beliefs.

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#347 Nov 23, 2012
*photography*
This

Santa Fe, NM

#348 Nov 23, 2012
brian wrote:
<quoted text>

?
looney toon is giving himself props. what a nut!
Tray

Oxford, MS

#349 Nov 23, 2012
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh grow up! Nobody said we can't or shouldn't eat meat or that the coyote or wolf should predominate over man!
God created all creatures and put them all here on earth to share the land. We've tried that elimimating the predators thing and it didn't turn out so well.
Man can protect his livestock from the offenders, but he has no rights to seek out and eradicate animals that are not threatening, unless it's for his very survival. We will survive and eat meat even with coyotes and wolves in the world!
This earth needs a healthy balance of both predators and prey to sustain a healathy ecosystem. And the planet consists of more than just humans ad cows.
If you want mice, rats, and other small mammals to take over the world, eliminate the predators.
But we are trying to help the coyote by killing them so their numbers can increase.
toadmann

Pittsburgh, PA

#350 Nov 23, 2012
youtube.com/watch... …… Elf Rants are mad? why?
Churmudgeon

Horseshoe Bend, AR

#351 Nov 23, 2012
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
<quoted text>
My yard IS fenced. Maybe you missed the part about the meter reader leaving the gate open. The point still remains, the dog does not deserve death for walking on someone's property, no matter how special you think you are.
What you consider a weak argument is a very real scenerio.
Another time, we had guests who brought their 4 year old grandchild over. The kid wanted to play with the dog. He tried opening the gate even after I told him that was absolutely out of the question. When I turned away, he tried opening it again. Needless to say, the third time it happened I was not so nice in my correcting him. If I had been at work, what would have happened?
Sometimes dogs get out. Big deal. That's why God gave most humans a heart and a brain.
Been up since before daylight. Ive just come in for some noon turkey day leftovers. It rained last nite and apparently after it stopped the varmits where active. I made a very respectable catch. any how when you use words like deserve ect it has no validity. I my opinion there isnt much difference between deserve and fair share. If a dog is tresspassing and the land owner believes its about to? then it can be legally destroyed. Heck in Texas you can legally kill human tresspassers. to keep others from opening your gate you could do like me and put a padlock on it. I will continue to do what I can legally.
Churmudgeon

Horseshoe Bend, AR

#352 Nov 23, 2012
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
<quoted text>
I know a whole lot more about wildlife than what you think I know! Nature photograthy is my hobby and my passion. A nature photographer has to know their subjects very well. I have lots of experience with raccoons and many different forms of wildlife, though my specialty is birds.
I ask these questions because I want that person to site their source of information. I've found too many people just repeat myths and old wives' tales that have passed from one generation to the next about wildlife.
What I try to do is get at the truth after years of actual studies performed by experts, and present that to people who still believe falsities and kill animals unnecessarily under those false beliefs.
You can be content with the fact that as old as I am ill olny be actively doing my part for another 10 maybe 15 years. However I might find a interested youngster with sufficient talent to take over for me.
Didja

Santa Fe, NM

#353 Nov 23, 2012
Churmudgeon wrote:
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I got a male coyote a large racoon & two opossum..
get a boner?
Certainly

Santa Fe, NM

#354 Nov 23, 2012
Churmudgeon wrote:
<quoted text> You can be content with the fact that as old as I am ill olny be actively doing my part for another 10 maybe 15 years. However I might find a interested youngster with sufficient talent to take over for me.
you could find someone who hasn't developed ethically past the middle school level.

Try middle school.
Tray

Oxford, MS

#355 Nov 23, 2012
Didja wrote:
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get a boner?
they all have bones, what's your point?

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