Mexico bishop inspires, infuriates wi...

Mexico bishop inspires, infuriates with activism

There are 17 comments on the New Jersey Herald story from Dec 25, 2012, titled Mexico bishop inspires, infuriates with activism. In it, New Jersey Herald reports that:

The white-haired bishop stepped before some 7,000 faithful gathered in a baseball stadium in this violence-plagued northern border state.

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Concerned

Chihuahua, Mexico

#1 Dec 25, 2012
A man with conviction, guts, honesty and willing to stand up and talk about it. I know what goes on here as well as the Mexican people. The problem is if you speak up as an individual or a leader you are signing your own death warrant.

Either the government or the criminals will kill him. One and the same.

They need the whole country in Unison to do something and all at once. They cannot kill all the people. But who is going to lead this march, that is the problem.

I wish him well and hopefully a long life!! Activists for human rights do not live long in Mexico.

Since: Dec 08

El Paso, TX

#2 Dec 25, 2012
A good man, thanks for the article.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#3 Dec 25, 2012
The guy is still anti-gay.

He's edging to be appointed Cardinal.
Ermine Collared Cleric

Croydon, PA

#4 Dec 25, 2012
He looks fabulous in his fine, white smock, but he really needs to use condoms with those altar boys.
juan marquez

United States

#5 Dec 25, 2012
Catholic church should to support people and proffesionals that want to help poor people insted to support parties that like to spend money that belong to the poor workers and poor students.@
juan marquez

United States

#6 Dec 25, 2012
The PRI (party) and Mexico, also need more sons and good nietos. I hope the president Enrique be a good Nieto because I love Mexico. With all my respect to the Mexican president and clarify Iam a son and nieto of the Mexican Country.
AzAdam

Coleman Falls, VA

#7 Dec 26, 2012
If this man is killed, it will re-affirm that there is no god.
SLIF

Brampton, Canada

#8 Dec 26, 2012
juan marquez wrote:
Catholic church should to support people and proffesionals that want to help poor people insted to support parties that like to spend money that belong to the poor workers and poor students.@
Catholic churches should had out free birth control and condoms to all of those poor,diplomaless,(stright) people,so they don't have kids that they can't afford.

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#9 Dec 26, 2012
"Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me."
Matthew 5:11

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#10 Dec 26, 2012
snyper wrote:
The guy is still anti-gay.
He's edging to be appointed Cardinal.
Why do you say that when he endorsed SSM?

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#11 Dec 27, 2012
DNF wrote:
<quoted text>Why do you say that when he endorsed SSM?
He didn't.

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#12 Dec 27, 2012
snyper wrote:
<quoted text>
He didn't.
so you're saying the article is wrong?

"In late 2007, Mexico City's Human Rights Commission denounced death threats against Vera and a burglary of the diocese's human rights offices. The following year, after Coahuila became the first Mexican state to allow civil unions for gay couples, a move the bishop endorsed, Vera was invited to speak at a U.S.-based conference for a Catholic gay and lesbian organization. In 2010, he was awarded a human rights prize in Norway."

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#13 Dec 27, 2012
DNF wrote:
<quoted text>so you're saying the article is wrong?
"In late 2007, Mexico City's Human Rights Commission denounced death threats against Vera and a burglary of the diocese's human rights offices. The following year, after Coahuila became the first Mexican state to allow civil unions for gay couples, a move the bishop endorsed, Vera was invited to speak at a U.S.-based conference for a Catholic gay and lesbian organization. In 2010, he was awarded a human rights prize in Norway."
Civil Unions, not Marriage.

OK. So "anti-gay" was too strong.

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#14 Dec 27, 2012
snyper wrote:
<quoted text>
Civil Unions, not Marriage.
OK. So "anti-gay" was too strong.
Looks like we both needed to rephrase our statements.

Thanks for pointing out he advocated Civil Unions and not actual marriage.

Since: Dec 08

El Paso, TX

#15 Dec 27, 2012
There are two types of marriage in Mexico. One is called a civil union because it is recognized by the government. Religious marriages are not recognized by the state so two part weddings are quite common, church and state. A common part of the weddings are comprised of signing two registries with witnesses present.

We've attended a good number of such wedding and I signed as a witness for one of them.
snyper wrote:
<quoted text>
Civil Unions, not Marriage.
OK. So "anti-gay" was too strong.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#16 Dec 27, 2012
TomInElPaso wrote:
There are two types of marriage in Mexico. One is called a civil union because it is recognized by the government. Religious marriages are not recognized by the state so two part weddings are quite common, church and state. A common part of the weddings are comprised of signing two registries with witnesses present.
We've attended a good number of such wedding and I signed as a witness for one of them.
<quoted text>
That's the case, and it isn't just a confusion of translation, then I retract.

“laugh until your belly hurts”

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#17 Dec 27, 2012
TomInElPaso wrote:
There are two types of marriage in Mexico. One is called a civil union because it is recognized by the government. Religious marriages are not recognized by the state so two part weddings are quite common, church and state. A common part of the weddings are comprised of signing two registries with witnesses present.
We've attended a good number of such wedding and I signed as a witness for one of them.
<quoted text>
same thing here. civil marriages for gays and lesbians are now legal in our state and many others here... but in brasil, unlike the u.s., if it's legally recognised in any state, then the federal gov't also recognises it.

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