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Donald Rumsfeld to Diane Sawyer: 'It's Possible' Troop Decisions Were a Mistake in Iraq

There are 40 comments on the ABC News story from Feb 7, 2011, titled Donald Rumsfeld to Diane Sawyer: 'It's Possible' Troop Decisions Were a Mistake in Iraq. In it, ABC News reports that:

More than four years after leaving public life, former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld continues to believe the war in Iraq was worth the effort, and has no apologies for his decision-making in leading the campaigns in Afghanistan and Iraq.

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Bill

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#22 Feb 13, 2011
There is a big difference between "mistakes" and "crimes." "Troop decisions"?! What Donald Rumsfeld and his collaborators did was criminal, and they need to be prosecuted to the fullest extent.

The invasion and occupation of Afghanistan and Iraq were unprovoked wars of aggression, "essentially an evil thing...to initiate a war of aggression...is not only an international crime; it is the SUPREME international crime, differing only from other war crimes in that it contains within itself the accumulated evil of the whole." That last quote is from the Nuremberg Tribunal following World War II.

According to U.S. Prosecutor at Nuremberg, Chief Justice Robert H. Jackson:

"We must make clear to the Germans that the wrong for which their fallen leaders are on trial is not that they lost the war, but that they started it. And we must not allow ourselves to be drawn into a trial of the causes of the war, for our position is that no grievances or policies will justify resort to aggressive war. It is utterly renounced and condemned as an instrument of policy."

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"If certain acts of violation of treaties are crimes, they are crimes whether the United States does them or whether Germany does them, and we are not prepared to lay down a rule of criminal conduct against others which we would not be willing to have invoked against us."

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As one of the principle architects of the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq, Rumsfeld must be held accountable. If I recall correctly, a number of the leaders responsible for aggressive war were hung because of their crimes.

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#23 Dec 16, 2013
found any wmd's?

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#24 Dec 17, 2013
Donald Rumsfeld wrote:
Let's clear this up once and for all .......
It was I and not Hans Blix that found the weapons of mass destruction.
I was walking down a back street in Baghdad one day with a U.S. military officer when I suddenly looked down on the ground and found 11 paper clips and 4 rubber bands.
I quickly telephoned my findings to President George W. Bush in Washington and he immediately declared me a hero.
lmao!

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#25 Dec 20, 2013
"If certain acts of violation of treaties are crimes, they are crimes whether the United States does them or whether Germany does them, and we are not prepared to lay down a rule of criminal conduct against others which we would not be willing to have invoked against us."

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#26 Dec 30, 2013
Bill wrote:
There is a big difference between "mistakes" and "crimes." "Troop decisions"?! What Donald Rumsfeld and his collaborators did was criminal, and they need to be prosecuted to the fullest extent.
The invasion and occupation of Afghanistan and Iraq were unprovoked wars of aggression, "essentially an evil thing...to initiate a war of aggression...is not only an international crime; it is the SUPREME international crime, differing only from other war crimes in that it contains within itself the accumulated evil of the whole." That last quote is from the Nuremberg Tribunal following World War II.
According to U.S. Prosecutor at Nuremberg, Chief Justice Robert H. Jackson:
"We must make clear to the Germans that the wrong for which their fallen leaders are on trial is not that they lost the war, but that they started it. And we must not allow ourselves to be drawn into a trial of the causes of the war, for our position is that no grievances or policies will justify resort to aggressive war. It is utterly renounced and condemned as an instrument of policy."
AND
"If certain acts of violation of treaties are crimes, they are crimes whether the United States does them or whether Germany does them, and we are not prepared to lay down a rule of criminal conduct against others which we would not be willing to have invoked against us."
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As one of the principle architects of the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq, Rumsfeld must be held accountable. If I recall correctly, a number of the leaders responsible for aggressive war were hung because of their crimes.
Iraq and Afghanistan '03-America breaks its own rules-again!

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#27 Dec 31, 2013
"The third mistake, I think was one we repeated from Vietnam, we had to create a false rationale for going in to get public support. The books were cooked, in my mind. The intelligence was not there. I testified before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee one month before the war, and Senator Lugar asked me: "General Zinni, do you feel the threat from Saddam Hussein is imminent?" I said: "No, not at all. It was not an imminent threat. Not even close. Not grave, gathering, imminent, serious, severe, mildly upsetting, none of those."
http://www.cdi.org/program/document.cfm ...

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#28 Jan 23, 2014
swedenforever wrote:
"The third mistake, I think was one we repeated from Vietnam, we had to create a false rationale for going in to get public support. The books were cooked, in my mind. The intelligence was not there. I testified before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee one month before the war, and Senator Lugar asked me: "General Zinni, do you feel the threat from Saddam Hussein is imminent?" I said: "No, not at all. It was not an imminent threat. Not even close. Not grave, gathering, imminent, serious, severe, mildly upsetting, none of those."
http://www.cdi.org/program/document.cfm ...
The 3rd mistake?? lol!

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#29 Jan 25, 2014
The 3rd mistake??

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#30 Feb 3, 2014
#1 loosing a couple trillion dollars in the PentaGONE budget

#2 911 the biggest breach of US Security since Pearl Harbor a year into Shrubs 1st term

#3 Invading the wrong country for the wrong reasons

and four years later you said troop decisions could have been a mistake?

lmao!

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#31 Feb 15, 2014
"It is good that a war criminal like Cheney has his book published. Better to read about this cretin in the light of day rather than people like him just keeping their perverse values to himself. As for associating with him, I think those in prison who want "associate" with Dick Cheney should be able too. If only this country had the guts to prosecute him."

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#33 May 11, 2014
The 3rd mistake?
Swedenforever

Hyattsville, MD

#34 Aug 30, 2014
Ok Gingrich, one more wife and you can be convert to Mormon
Swedenforever

Silver Spring, MD

#35 Sep 30, 2014
Rummy
Swedenforever

Laurel, MD

#37 May 18, 2015
JohnInLa wrote:
Attention Diane Sawyer, you Ivory Tower Douchebag!!! When are you going to question the treasonous self-serving democRat gas-bags below?
Imagine yourself day in and day out roaming around the streets of Baghdad while the enemy is listening to the treasonous democRats below via Al Jazzera and being inspired to push on, to fight a little harder, the American people are getting weaker and weaker…
• Democrat John Kerry, Feb. 2007: "The simple fact is that sending in over 20,000 additional troops isn't the answer--in fact, it's a tragic mistake. It won't end the violence; it won't provide security; ...it won't turn back the clock and avoid the civil war that is already underway; it won't deter terrorists, who have a completely different agenda; it won't rein in the militias."
• Democrat Dennis Kucinich, Feb. 2007: "It has been proven time and time again that troop surges don't work."
• Democrat Harry Reid, Apr. 2007: "The war is lost... This surge is not accomplishing anything."
• Democrat Christopher Dodd, Apr. 2007: "We don't need a surge of troops in Iraq... there is no military solution in Iraq. To insist upon a surge is wrong."
• Democrat Barack Obama, Jul. 2007: "My assessment is that the surge has not worked."
• Democrat Dick Durbin, Aug. 2007: "By carefully manipulating the statistics, the Bush-Petraeus report will try to persuade us that violence in Iraq is decreasing and thus the surge is working. Even if the figures were right, the conclusion is wrong."
• Democrat Jan Schakowsky, Aug. 2007: "I believe overall the surge is a failure....It’s clear to me we cannot win..."
• Democrat Joe Biden, Sep. 2007: "We should stop the surge and start bringing our troops home...[When asked whether Iraq closer to political reconciliation than before the surge began, and would continuing the operation stop the killing between Sunnis, Shi'ites and Kurds?]...The answer to both those questions is no."
• Democrat John Kerry, Sep. 2007: ""The president's escalation ... has failed to achieve its goal of bringing about a resolution of the fundamental conflict between Sunni and Shi'ite."
• Democrat Chris Dodd, Sep. 2007: "It pains me to say that ... the surge tactic is a failure — and that failure is reconfirmed everyday by unfolding events in Iraq."
• Democrat Barack Obama, Oct. 2007: "[The surge is a] complete failure... Iraq’s leaders are not reconciling. They are not achieving political benchmarks."
• Democrat Harry Reid, Nov. 2007: "It is indisputable that the goals of the surge have failed."
• Democrat Joe Biden, Nov. 2007: "This whole notion that the surge is working is fantasy."
• Democrat Nancy Pelosi, Feb. 2008: "There haven't been gains [in Iraq]... The gains have not produced the desired effect, which is the reconciliation of Iraq. This is a failure. This is a failure."
• Democrat Carl Levin, Apr. 2008: "...the purpose of the surge as announced by President Bush last year... has not been achieved"
• Democrat Joe Biden, Apr. 2008: "The purpose of the surge was to bring violence in Iraq down so that its leaders could come together politically. Violence has come down, but the Iraqis have not come together... We Democrats understand that this war must end..."
• Democrat Bill Richardson, Jun. 2008: "[when asked if he was ready to concede that John McCain had been right in proposing the surge, said] "Absolutely not."
We told you so, the Reichwingers couldn't secure Iraq with 'Rommel' if he was still alive-pathetic
Swedenforever

Hyattsville, MD

#38 Feb 15, 2016
swedenforever wrote:
"The third mistake, I think was one we repeated from Vietnam, we had to create a false rationale for going in to get public support. The books were cooked, in my mind. The intelligence was not there. I testified before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee one month before the war, and Senator Lugar asked me: "General Zinni, do you feel the threat from Saddam Hussein is imminent?" I said: "No, not at all. It was not an imminent threat. Not even close. Not grave, gathering, imminent, serious, severe, mildly upsetting, none of those."
http://www.cdi.org/program/document.cfm ...
Trumping on!
Rummy

Baltimore, MD

#40 Sep 8, 2016
Sad
devils chessboard

Bradenton, FL

#41 Sep 9, 2016
In 1953 allen dulles , john foster dulles , kermit roosevelt and their israeli puppetmasters installed the SHAH in IRAN..........donald rumsfeld and paul bremmer and OBAMA are zionist stooges doing the bidding of tony dalsimer , sheldon adelson , robert mercer , Paul Wolfowitz and the kosher nostra CONGRESS .
INDICT PAM BONDI

Bradenton, FL

#42 Sep 9, 2016
swedenforever wrote:
"It is good that a war criminal like Cheney has his book published. Better to read about this cretin in the light of day rather than people like him just keeping their perverse values to himself. As for associating with him, I think those in prison who want "associate" with Dick Cheney should be able too. If only this country had the guts to prosecute him."
..........Paul Wolfowitz , sheldon adelson , peter becht , mike milken , Mark Ciavarella , avigdor Cemoleech , joe lieberman , douglas feith , rupert murdoch and the kosher nostra zionist fifth column ordered boy george bush to attack IRAQ.
Geezer

Washington, DC

#43 Sep 16, 2016
Life in poverty made me Consetvative
Geezer

Washington, DC

#44 Sep 16, 2016
Constipated

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