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Report: US Strikes on Iran Would Risk Major War

There are 171 comments on the ABC News story from Sep 12, 2012, titled Report: US Strikes on Iran Would Risk Major War. In it, ABC News reports that:

U.S. military strikes on Iran would shake the regime's political control and damage its ability to launch counterstrikes, but the Iranians probably would manage to retaliate, directly and through surrogates, in ways that risked igniting all-out war in the Middle East, according to an assessment of an attack's costs and benefits.

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Cassius Dio

Pittsfield, MA

#177 Sep 23, 2012
Amazingly the ground zero site was whisked away and both airliners were never reconstructed as all aircraft are after a crash. The forensics 'not completed' after such a crime is disturbing. So too the Israli shipping company with offices in the WTC closed down unexpectedly, paying a $50,000 early moving fee only a week or so prior to this disaster.
Why?

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#178 Sep 23, 2012
ana wrote:
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Yes there are some fools who use Islam and abuse the meaning of Islam
Unfortunately these very fools have been armed and supported by the west ...
I haven't really kept up with what is going on in Masr, and I am sad if Christians are being driven out and forced to convert to Islam, not acceptable and any Muslim who can justify that is not behaving as a Muslim in the eyes of Allah
I hated Mubarak but I am suspicious of the Muslim brotherhood
You are blind to the evil and violence that radical Muslims have brought to the world. The hatred and destruction is their own doing. Christians have suffered under the rule of Muslims for far too long and they will no longer be silent.The murders in Syria, the acceptance of terror in the name of Allah and the violence against women and children must end.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-09-20...

http://www.algemeiner.com/2012/09/10/the-tip-...

http://www.algemeiner.com/2012/09/19/the-rape...

http://www.algemeiner.com/2012/09/19/the-rape...

Indonesia: Muslim protesters forced a church to shut down during a Sunday worship on claims that it was operating without a permit, and hung a banner on the church's gate reading "We the people … hardily reject the use of this building … for religious activities." The church's committee secretary said the church has the necessarily permits to hold services," yet "the majority of the people still reject the church's activity."

Iran: Both the Central Assembly of God Church in Tehran and its summer campsite—once a popular site for Christian gatherings and conferences—were closed by authorities of the Islamic Republic, who also posted a large notice on the gates "warning of severe consequences should anyone try to enter the premises." These latest closures follow the official termination of Friday Persian language services and the compulsory cancellation of all Bible classes and the distribution of Christian literature. Also, as part of the crackdown on house churches, plainclothes agents of the Ministry of Islamic Guidance continued raiding, arresting, and "aggressively interrogating" assembled worshippers.

Lebanon: Ahead of the Maronite Patriarch's visit to Akker, flyers signed by the "Soldiers of the Great Prophet" threatened the Christians and churches in what has traditionally been the safest Mideast country for Christians, calling "on the infidels to stop their blasphemy ... We will start from the infidel's church in Akker and we won't stop ... this is not the end but the beginning," read the flyer.

Kenya: Seven Islamic jihadis launched simultaneous grenade and gunfire attacks on two churches, while the congregations were at prayer. Five militants attacked the Africa Inland Church, killing 17 people and wounding approximately 60, including many women and children. The other two Muslim terrorists attacked the nearby Catholic Church, wounding three.

Since: Jul 11

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#179 Sep 23, 2012
Jihad Death and Destruction

Nigeria: In what is described as an ongoing genocide of Christians over 65 people, including two politicians, were killed in a triple attacks on Christians. First, Muslims destroyed 43 Christian-owned farms. Nobody was arrested. Then they attacked nine Christian villages around the city of Jos, killing dozens of people. "They came in hundreds," said an official, "Some had police uniforms and some even had bulletproof vests." Muslims attacked the funeral for the victims of the village raids, killing several more people.

South Africa: The Islamic terror group Al Shabaab is accused of murdering 14 Christians, all Ethiopians, in the Western Cape. A Christian bishop, also a former police inspector, fears more of his flock will be targeted: "We want authorities to do something because we know this is the work of al-Shabaab. If nothing is done, the Ethiopian population will be depleted…[those who died are] holy martyrs who have died because they are Christians." Meanwhile, Father Mike Williams of the Anglican Catholic Church also revealed that members of his congregation have been targeted by gunmen "with connections to Muslim extremists," saying that "In July, we have lost seven members of our church."

Syria: Syrian "freedom fighters" continue showing their true colors as they destroy churches and kill Christians, which has resulted in the mass migration of tens of thousands of Christians, including practically the entire populations of Homs and Qusayr. Surrounding nations that once might have offered refuge—Iraq, Turkey, even now Lebanon—are also increasingly inhospitable to Christians. One Christian girl who escaped said: "They sermonized on Fridays in the mosques that it was a sacred duty to drive us [Christians] away…. Christians had to pay bribes to the jihadists repeatedly in order to avoid getting killed." After making the sign of the cross, her grandmother added: "Anyone who believes in this cross suffers."

Turkey: An article titled "Who Ordered the Murder of Christians?" asserts that a Muslim undercover agent who had worked for the government "penetrated the Christian community and gathered a lot of information, while he was pretending to be a missionary. He became a church leader, and upon receiving another order, he became 'Muslim' again and launched a campaign against missionaries across the country," which culminated in the massacre of Christians.

Dhimmitude
[General Abuse, Debasement, and Suppression of Non-Muslims as "Tolerated" Citizens]

Egypt: After a Christian laundry worker burned the shirt of a Muslim man, several quarrels ensued and culminated with the death of a Muslim. Accordingly, thousands of Muslims rampaged the village, causing 120 Christian families to flee. They looted Christian businesses and homes "despite hundreds of security forces being deployed in the village. Eyewitnesses reported that security forces did not protect most Coptic property." Family members of the deceased Muslim insist that the Christians must still pay with their lives. Also, during Ramadan, several Christians were attacked and beaten. Dr. Yassir al-Burhami, a prominent figure in Egypt's Salafi movement issued a fatwa forbidding Muslim taxi-drivers and bus-drivers from transporting Coptic Christian priests to their churches, which he depicted as "more forbidden than taking someone to a liquor bar." And a charitable medical center that performs free heart operations on both Muslim and Christian children is under threat from some Muslims, who want it closed down because it was founded by a Christian surgeon.
ana

London, UK

#180 Sep 23, 2012
waleed sadat wrote:
Jihad Death and Destruction

Nigeria: In what is described as an ongoing genocide of Christians over 65 people, including two politicians, were killed in a triple attacks on Christians. First, Muslims destroyed 43 Christian-owned farms. Nobody was arrested. Then they attacked nine Christian villages around the city of Jos, killing dozens of people. "They came in hundreds," said an official, "Some had police uniforms and some even had bulletproof vests." Muslims attacked the funeral for the victims of the village raids, killing several more people.

South Africa: The Islamic terror group Al Shabaab is accused of murdering 14 Christians, all Ethiopians, in the Western Cape. A Christian bishop, also a former police inspector, fears more of his flock will be targeted: "We want authorities to do something because we know this is the work of al-Shabaab. If nothing is done, the Ethiopian population will be depletedÂ…[those who died are] holy martyrs who have died because they are Christians." Meanwhile, Father Mike Williams of the Anglican Catholic Church also revealed that members of his congregation have been targeted by gunmen "with connections to Muslim extremists," saying that "In July, we have lost seven members of our church."

Syria: Syrian "freedom fighters" continue showing their true colors as they destroy churches and kill Christians, which has resulted in the mass migration of tens of thousands of Christians, including practically the entire populations of Homs and Qusayr. Surrounding nations that once might have offered refuge—Iraq, Turkey, even now Lebanon—are also increasingly inhospitable to Christians. One Christian girl who escaped said: "They sermonized on Fridays in the mosques that it was a sacred duty to drive us [Christians] away…. Christians had to pay bribes to the jihadists repeatedly in order to avoid getting killed." After making the sign of the cross, her grandmother added: "Anyone who believes in this cross suffers."

Turkey: An article titled "Who Ordered the Murder of Christians?" asserts that a Muslim undercover agent who had worked for the government "penetrated the Christian community and gathered a lot of information, while he was pretending to be a missionary. He became a church leader, and upon receiving another order, he became 'Muslim' again and launched a campaign against missionaries across the country," which culminated in the massacre of Christians.

Dhimmitude
[General Abuse, Debasement, and Suppression of Non-Muslims as "Tolerated" Citizens]

Egypt: After a Christian laundry worker burned the shirt of a Muslim man, several quarrels ensued and culminated with the death of a Muslim. Accordingly, thousands of Muslims rampaged the village, causing 120 Christian families to flee. They looted Christian businesses and homes "despite hundreds of security forces being deployed in the village. Eyewitnesses reported that security forces did not protect most Coptic property." Family members of the deceased Muslim insist that the Christians must still pay with their lives. Also, during Ramadan, several Christians were attacked and beaten. Dr. Yassir al-Burhami, a prominent figure in Egypt's Salafi movement issued a fatwa forbidding Muslim taxi-drivers and bus-drivers from transporting Coptic Christian priests to their churches, which he depicted as "more forbidden than taking someone to a liquor bar." And a charitable medical center that performs free heart operations on both Muslim and Christian children is under threat from some Muslims, who want it closed down because it was founded by a Christian surgeon.
What about the Christian crusades in Spain and the horrible things Christians have done to others through out history .....
ana

London, UK

#181 Sep 23, 2012
waleed sadat wrote:
Jihad Death and Destruction

Nigeria: In what is described as an ongoing genocide of Christians over 65 people, including two politicians, were killed in a triple attacks on Christians. First, Muslims destroyed 43 Christian-owned farms. Nobody was arrested. Then they attacked nine Christian villages around the city of Jos, killing dozens of people. "They came in hundreds," said an official, "Some had police uniforms and some even had bulletproof vests." Muslims attacked the funeral for the victims of the village raids, killing several more people.

South Africa: The Islamic terror group Al Shabaab is accused of murdering 14 Christians, all Ethiopians, in the Western Cape. A Christian bishop, also a former police inspector, fears more of his flock will be targeted: "We want authorities to do something because we know this is the work of al-Shabaab. If nothing is done, the Ethiopian population will be depletedÂ…[those who died are] holy martyrs who have died because they are Christians." Meanwhile, Father Mike Williams of the Anglican Catholic Church also revealed that members of his congregation have been targeted by gunmen "with connections to Muslim extremists," saying that "In July, we have lost seven members of our church."

Syria: Syrian "freedom fighters" continue showing their true colors as they destroy churches and kill Christians, which has resulted in the mass migration of tens of thousands of Christians, including practically the entire populations of Homs and Qusayr. Surrounding nations that once might have offered refuge—Iraq, Turkey, even now Lebanon—are also increasingly inhospitable to Christians. One Christian girl who escaped said: "They sermonized on Fridays in the mosques that it was a sacred duty to drive us [Christians] away…. Christians had to pay bribes to the jihadists repeatedly in order to avoid getting killed." After making the sign of the cross, her grandmother added: "Anyone who believes in this cross suffers."

Turkey: An article titled "Who Ordered the Murder of Christians?" asserts that a Muslim undercover agent who had worked for the government "penetrated the Christian community and gathered a lot of information, while he was pretending to be a missionary. He became a church leader, and upon receiving another order, he became 'Muslim' again and launched a campaign against missionaries across the country," which culminated in the massacre of Christians.

Dhimmitude
[General Abuse, Debasement, and Suppression of Non-Muslims as "Tolerated" Citizens]

Egypt: After a Christian laundry worker burned the shirt of a Muslim man, several quarrels ensued and culminated with the death of a Muslim. Accordingly, thousands of Muslims rampaged the village, causing 120 Christian families to flee. They looted Christian businesses and homes "despite hundreds of security forces being deployed in the village. Eyewitnesses reported that security forces did not protect most Coptic property." Family members of the deceased Muslim insist that the Christians must still pay with their lives. Also, during Ramadan, several Christians were attacked and beaten. Dr. Yassir al-Burhami, a prominent figure in Egypt's Salafi movement issued a fatwa forbidding Muslim taxi-drivers and bus-drivers from transporting Coptic Christian priests to their churches, which he depicted as "more forbidden than taking someone to a liquor bar." And a charitable medical center that performs free heart operations on both Muslim and Christian children is under threat from some Muslims, who want it closed down because it was founded by a Christian surgeon.
There are many instances of Christians and such like persecuting Christians

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamophobic_i...

It's morons like you who fuel the fire so to speak... Shame on you , I presumed you were an Arab because of your name maybe not, before you are a Christian you are a human, then an Arab - if you are one, then a Christian
The Worlds Biggest Lie

Pittsfield, MA

#182 Sep 23, 2012
ana wrote:
<quoted text>
What about the Christian crusades in Spain and the horrible things Christians have done to others through out history .....
What about the Bolshevik Revolution where about 60 million Christains were annihalated. Nearly all of which was orchestrated and financed by _____.
The Worlds Biggest Lie

Pittsfield, MA

#183 Sep 23, 2012
The federal reserve created in 1913 and the USA was broke in less than 20 years with two world wars that really have never ended.

Of Puppets and Strings To Oily Things
Down Down Down

There will come a day
ana

London, UK

#184 Sep 23, 2012
The Worlds Biggest Lie wrote:
<quoted text>What about the Bolshevik Revolution where about 60 million Christains were annihalated. Nearly all of which was orchestrated and financed by _____.
Listen I am not one to value a life over a life... It is petty and childish ... I was merely answering to a reproach from another who likes provocation, try not to be suckered in

The Bolshevik revolution was not a Muslim or Christian crusade as far as I know...

There is no justification what so ever for mindless murder.... That includes Muslims, Christians, Jews, atheists, Sikhs, Buddhists,......... And even scientologists ...

Too much money, effort and lives lost during conflict and war as people we seem to not learn from past events throughout history...

often religion isn't the cause... But religion is misused to manipulate naive, inward or out right bad people to coerce them to commit wrong deeds to others. The motivation often being greed, power, wealth...

Contempt breeds contempt sad but true
ana

London, UK

#185 Sep 23, 2012
The Worlds Biggest Lie wrote:
The federal reserve created in 1913 and the USA was broke in less than 20 years with two world wars that really have never ended.

Of Puppets and Strings To Oily Things
Down Down Down

There will come a day
Lol
Gray

Taylor, MI

#187 Sep 24, 2012
Faith wrote:
Give me the address of the Hasbara HQ. I want to get paid for this sh*t.
And, indeed "sh*t" it is!

Did you loose your pay stub....AGAIN?

Your paymasters are clearly identified in your New Hasbara Handbook!

And, remember: ".... to give the appearance of rational debate whilst avoiding genuine discussion.”

"The Pro-Israel Propaganda Handbook"
HASBARA HANDBOOK
http://www.middle-east-info.org/take/wujshasb ...

"Guides for Activists" , explains that it is often better to score points than to engage in actual arguments, and offers an explanation for how, in its own words, "to score points whilst avoiding debate."
Page 8 Communication Styles:
“Point Scoring communication ought to give the appearance of rational debate whilst avoiding genuine discussion.”
The Handbook:“,,,,,offers an explanation for how, in its own words, "to score points whilst avoiding debate."
Page 31 “Just walk away: When Not To Engage”:
-“When they don’t know enough” or “over your head”
PROPAGANDA HANDBOOK CONTINUED

Now, run along and "save some little, Non Chosen, Palestinian "Animals"....I mean..."Cockroaches"

"Yitzak Rabin. New York Times, 1/25/1988&#8232;&#8232 ;&#8232;"The Palestinians" would be crushed like grasshoppers ...

heads smashed against the boulders and walls."&#8232;Isreali Prime Minister, Yitzhak Shamir, in a speech to Jewish settlers New York Times April 1, 1988&#8232;

"The (israeli) army will follow a policy of might, power and beatings"

"We have to kill all the Palestinians unless they are resigned to live here as slaves." Chairman Heilbrun of the Committee for the Re-election of General Shlomo Lahat, the mayor of Tel Aviv, October 1983.

Vultures of a Feather......

“NAZI SUPPORT OF ZIONISM”
http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/antisemitis...
“Theodor Herzl (1860-1904), the founder of modern Zionism, recognized that anti-Semitism would further his cause, the creation of a separate state for Jews. To solve the Jewish Question, he maintained “we must, above all, make it an international political issue.”[1]Herzl wrote that Zionism offered the world a welcome “final solution of the Jewish question.”[2]In his “Diaries”, page 19, Herzl stated “Anti-Semites will become our surest friends, anti-Semitic countries our allies.”

“How Israel was Founded”
http://www.eutimes.net/2008/04/israel-founded...
EXCERPT “After leaders of the Third Reich committed atrocities against the Jews during World War II, they were tried, hanged and buried, both physically and under the contempt of humanity.

The opposite happened to the bloody and arrogant terrorists of Israel. Ben-Gurion, Begin, Shamir, and Sharon were all elected to leadership of the nation. This reflected the anti-Palestinian, terrorism-friendly mentality of many Israeli voters.

19 The Encyclopedia of the Palestine Problem documents, from United Nations records, more than 650 attacks by Jewish settlers and the Israeli military against Arabs between 1948 and 1998.”CONTINUED

Herzl’s anti-Semitic ideas were well articulated in an article he wrote in the “deutsche Zeitung”… in which he depicted Jews as villains and was quoted saying;

“The wealthy Jews control the world, in their hands lies the fate of governments and nations. They set governments one against the other. When the wealthy jews play, the nations and the rulers dance. One way or the other, they get rich”

Somehow I doubt that you "save little animals" except to have their: "...... heads smashed against the boulders and walls"

Now, let's hear either an honest, on topic, rebuttal

OR....

....more simple minded, insults....

Remember, I'm just here to help!

“Uzi Does It”

Since: Nov 08

UZILAND

#188 Sep 25, 2012
LOL, nuclear handgrenades taking down the world trade center, just goes to show how awful sick in the head most Obama voters are.

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