Did Romney's Sons Serve In Iraq or Afghanistan? Will They In Iran?

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NOT ONE of Romney's 5 sons served their nation following 9/11 in Iraq or Afghanistan -while the middle and lower class of America sent their sons and daughters off to war during the past 10 yearsa .

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Our military is volunteer. Plus you want to serve under a Commander in Chief that loves the country today. We don't have that now. At dinner recently there were young teens asking my husbad about the military, and he suggested they get an education first, because the current leaders in Congress and at the top are anti military, and the C in C has sent our military into areas there they are needlessly killed.

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I think its funny you guys are equating "deferments" legal, with "draft dodging" not legal. Like Clinton, Mitt got deferments, educational and religious, when he got back and was eligible again, they changed the draft from a number system to a lottery system, in which his number never came up. He did nothing illegal, and if his number had come up after 1970 he probably would have gone. Clinton got deferments, and he started a war in Serbia, bombed Iraq, and shot missiles all over the world. What qualified him? He was the president, that's all. What do you think qualifies Obama to make all these drone strikes? He is the president, that's all. Romney did not go to Viet Nam but he didn't smoke pot and do coke during that time either. What is going to qualify him to make military decisions if he wins the election? He will be president, that's all, and really, that's all you need to to be.
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Wall Street Government wrote:
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Obama didn't cause the depression, Bush did.
The worst depression since the 30's but teabaggers think it all started Jan. 21st 2008.
The way teabaggers and Mitt are acting we won't be out of middle east or the depression for another decade.
I haven't trusted our government since Vietnam.
Don't think I'll start anytime soon either.
No matter who wins.
To put that into perspective, when President George W. Bush took office, our national debt was $5.768 trillion. By the time Bush left office, it had nearly doubled, to $10.626 trillion. So Bush's record on deficit spending was not good at all: During his presidency, the national debt rose by an average of $607 billion a year. How does that compare to Obama? During Obama's presidency to date, the national debt has risen by an average of $1.723 trillion a year or by a jaw-dropping $1.116 trillion more, per year, than it rose even under Bush.

Obama, of course, has said the economy made him do it. But the average inflation-adjusted deficits through Obama's first two fiscal years will be more than ten times higher than the average inflation-adjusted deficit during the Great Depression. Even as a percentage of the gross domestic product, the average deficits in Obama's first two fiscal years will more than three times higher the average deficit during the Great Depression. The fact that Obama's deficits have, by any standard, more than tripled those of the Great Depression, cannot convincingly be blamed on the current recession.

And none of this even takes into account Obamacare, which the Congressional Budget Office says would increase spending by more than $2 trillion in its real first decade (2014 to 2023) and which, even under very rosy projections, the CBO says would increase the national debt by $341 billion by the end of 2019.
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OregonSUX wrote:
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No one cares what you think. You are a useless bum like Romney. You are the 47% like Romney refusing to pay taxes but using all the services of the country.
GET OUT. Leave and do not come back.
I care what he thinks!!
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OregonSUX wrote:
<quoted text>No one cares what you think. You are a useless bum like Romney. You are the 47% like Romney refusing to pay taxes but using all the services of the country.

GET OUT. Leave and do not come back.
yes many people do. I am sure that you don't after I prove you are an idiot. Pity. And I think I will stick around.
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Wall Street Government wrote:
<quoted text>Nitwit?

Proved wrong?

The very first comment DUMBASS:

CNN, the employer of trashy women, I've had a few of your slutty news reporters, they are tramps who like to suck a mean one, but I won't identify them. Hint, they were all former employees of your communist news agency. How about a topic of President Obama's family members patriotic acts. BTW, nobody sent their sons or daughters off to war. The government sent them to conflicts that need to be resolved. But, the government would rather send soldiers to the region, rather than saturation bomb the place. I can assure you that relentless bombing of the region would be more effective than what is currently taking place. Besides, our economy would improve just from the production of massive amounts of military explosive ordnance believe it or not. If you can identify a CNN reporter, kick their ass. They are traitors to the nation. They also specialize in performing crimes against nature.

Nothing about Mitt in there, Obama sure is.
what are you rambling about? Your post proves my superiority over you.
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Wall Street Government wrote:
<quoted text>Your very first comment:

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<quoted text>They weren't the ones beating the "War" drum.

Mittens sure is.
sure Clinton was. In fact Hillary voted for it.

Nothing in there about Mitt.

Clinton sure is.

Lying is in the teabagger DNA.

Just listen to FOX.
again what are you talking about nitwit? My post was to prove both Clinton's supported the Iraq war. It wasn't intended to show anything about Romney. Again I own you.
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What is that about? Some idiot thinks he has the right to tell you to go away? Who gave him the authority? Those idiot Obama people are so arrogant, and they have nothing to be arrogant about. I have a black Bombay cat smarter then their President. And I have a sign on the fridge that proclaims just that.
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Wall Street Government wrote:
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I didn't.
Just pointing out facts not hyperbole (fighting for our freedom).
Oh my another war for oil idiot. You should actually check some facts numbnuts. How much oil do we get from Iraq??? Your arguement doesnt hold any water.
I was in Iraq and i can tell you I WISH we did get a benifit for oil after FREEING that contry from a radical dictator. Guess what we dont.
The U.S. gets less oil today from Iraq than before 9/11
In 2001, the U.S. imported 298 million barrels of oil from Iraq. This was the peak year over the past 10 years. Compare that peak to every year since 2001. The amount of oil imported has gone down and fluctuated, but has averaged at around 190 million barrels a year.

The biggest contributors of crude oil to the United States are:

United States - 27.40%
Canada - 13.48%
Saudi Arabia - 8.44%
Mexico - 7.78%
Venezuela - 7.38%
Nigeria - 6.74%
Algeria - 3.30%
Iraq - 2.77%
Angola - 2.53%
Sure we went to war for oil...

Now go get a napkin cause you just got served
-24MEU 0311
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Are You Kidding wrote:
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To put that into perspective, when President George W. Bush took office, our national debt was $5.768 trillion. By the time Bush left office, it had nearly doubled, to $10.626 trillion. So Bush's record on deficit spending was not good at all: During his presidency, the national debt rose by an average of $607 billion a year. How does that compare to Obama? During Obama's presidency to date, the national debt has risen by an average of $1.723 trillion a year or by a jaw-dropping $1.116 trillion more, per year, than it rose even under Bush.
Obama, of course, has said the economy made him do it. But the average inflation-adjusted deficits through Obama's first two fiscal years will be more than ten times higher than the average inflation-adjusted deficit during the Great Depression. Even as a percentage of the gross domestic product, the average deficits in Obama's first two fiscal years will more than three times higher the average deficit during the Great Depression. The fact that Obama's deficits have, by any standard, more than tripled those of the Great Depression, cannot convincingly be blamed on the current recession.
And none of this even takes into account Obamacare, which the Congressional Budget Office says would increase spending by more than $2 trillion in its real first decade (2014 to 2023) and which, even under very rosy projections, the CBO says would increase the national debt by $341 billion by the end of 2019.
Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney on Monday ratcheted up his campaign to cast President Barack Obama as a weak steward of U.S. power, but offered few specific clues about how he would handle world crises differently.

Romney, hearkening back to the "peace through strength" doctrine of President Ronald Reagan, a Republican icon, gave his most extensive remarks of the campaign on foreign policy -although he focused almost entirely on the Muslim world.

Romney barely mentioned Russia, which he described just months ago as the top U.S. geopolitical foe, or China, which he has threatened to label a currency manipulator if elected to office. He said little or nothing about Latin America, North Korea and unstable, nuclear-armed Pakistan.

The Republican challenger also promised to restore a permanent U.S. aircraft carrier presence to both the Eastern Mediterranean and the Gulf - a U.S. aircraft carrier task force now usually rotates through the Gulf region - and to build 15 new ships per year, including three submarines, but did not say how he would pay for them.

Romney characterized the U.S. Navy fleet as "at levels not seen since 1916." In fact, the size of the fleet - 285 active ships last year - has been roughly stable since 2005, long before Obama took office, according to Navy data.
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again what are you talking about nitwit? My post was to prove both Clinton's supported the Iraq war. It wasn't intended to show anything about Romney. Again I own you.


Your post was off topic rambling teabagger B.S.
Wall Street Government

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again what are you talking about nitwit? My post was to prove both Clinton's supported the Iraq war. It wasn't intended to show anything about Romney. Again I own you.
Of course it had nothing to do with the subject.

It's a teabaggers job to change it, unless the subject is Obama.
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Wall Street Government wrote:
<quoted text>Your post was off topic rambling teabagger B.S.
no I was responding to someone who was lying. My post was directly in response to another post.
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<quoted text>Oh my another war for oil idiot. You should actually check some facts numbnuts. How much oil do we get from Iraq??? Your arguement doesnt hold any water.
I was in Iraq and i can tell you I WISH we did get a benifit for oil after FREEING that contry from a radical dictator. Guess what we dont.
The U.S. gets less oil today from Iraq than before 9/11
In 2001, the U.S. imported 298 million barrels of oil from Iraq. This was the peak year over the past 10 years. Compare that peak to every year since 2001. The amount of oil imported has gone down and fluctuated, but has averaged at around 190 million barrels a year.
The biggest contributors of crude oil to the United States are:
United States - 27.40%
Canada - 13.48%
Saudi Arabia - 8.44%
Mexico - 7.78%
Venezuela - 7.38%
Nigeria - 6.74%
Algeria - 3.30%
Iraq - 2.77%
Angola - 2.53%
Sure we went to war for oil...
Now go get a napkin cause you just got served
-24MEU 0311
The Iraqi government is to award a series of key oil contracts to British and US companies later today, fuelling criticism that the Iraq war was largely about oil.

The successful companies are expected to include Shell, BP, Exxon Mobil, Chevron and Total.

Non-Western companies, notably those in Russia, are expected to lose out.

The technical support contracts will give the companies access to Iraq's vast untapped oil fields. Oil production in Iraq is at its highest level since the invasion in 2003. The Iraqi government wants to increase production by 20%, as the country has an estimated 115bn barrels of crude reserves.

BP Plc and Exxon Mobil Corp. took the best deal they could get in Iraq last year when they won the largest oil contracts since addam Hussein was toppled in 2003. Oil companies may wait a long time to get a better one.

A group led by BP, which vies with Shell as Europe's largest oil company, will receive $2 billion per year in fees to develop the Rumaila field. A Shell-led group will get $913 million and a group led by Exxon, the largest U.S. oil company, will receive $1.6 billion per year. Each calculation is based on the agreed-to per-barrel fee times the maximum production level.

Didn't indicate the oil was bound for the U.S..

Just like Keystone it goes on the world market.

Too bad you were over there fighting for oil company contracts.

I'm sure it wasn't in the brochure, I bet "freedom" was.

Keep your napkin and add a hanky.

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our ambassador's weren't murdered in Russia or China. When you kill someone all bets are off, also Romney is throwing out ideas, like Obama did when he was running. There wont be 15 ships a year and you know what, there doesn't need to be, doesn't make him shaky on foreign policy. Maybe he doesn't like the way Bush left the Navy either, AS for the permanent carrier presence in the Eastern Med, nothing wrong with that, prolly should have left one there this whole time.

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So you are saying that TODAY Iraq is handing out oil contracts? I don't know where you copied and pasted this from but as of now Iraq is set to double production, and most oil contracts have gone to state owned oil companies, Western interests are not represented in Iraq's oil production, you shoudl probably do some basic research and not post stupidshit to further your blowing of Obama. We get it, you drink the kool aide.

http://www.marketplace.org/topics/world/repor...
Wall Street Government wrote:
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The Iraqi government is to award a series of key oil contracts to British and US companies later today, fuelling criticism that the Iraq war was largely about oil.
The successful companies are expected to include Shell, BP, Exxon Mobil, Chevron and Total.
Non-Western companies, notably those in Russia, are expected to lose out.
The technical support contracts will give the companies access to Iraq's vast untapped oil fields. Oil production in Iraq is at its highest level since the invasion in 2003. The Iraqi government wants to increase production by 20%, as the country has an estimated 115bn barrels of crude reserves.
BP Plc and Exxon Mobil Corp. took the best deal they could get in Iraq last year when they won the largest oil contracts since addam Hussein was toppled in 2003. Oil companies may wait a long time to get a better one.
A group led by BP, which vies with Shell as Europe's largest oil company, will receive $2 billion per year in fees to develop the Rumaila field. A Shell-led group will get $913 million and a group led by Exxon, the largest U.S. oil company, will receive $1.6 billion per year. Each calculation is based on the agreed-to per-barrel fee times the maximum production level.
Didn't indicate the oil was bound for the U.S..
Just like Keystone it goes on the world market.
Too bad you were over there fighting for oil company contracts.
I'm sure it wasn't in the brochure, I bet "freedom" was.
Keep your napkin and add a hanky.
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So you are saying that TODAY Iraq is handing out oil contracts? I don't know where you copied and pasted this from but as of now Iraq is set to double production, and most oil contracts have gone to state owned oil companies, Western interests are not represented in Iraq's oil production, you shoudl probably do some basic research and not post stupidshit to further your blowing of Obama. We get it, you drink the kool aide.
http://www.marketplace.org/topics/world/repor...
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No, they were given out in 2009.

Maybe YOU should do some BASIC research and not post crap, the Iraq government run oil companies DO NOT enter competitive bids. DUMBSHIT.

2/14/2009

Iraq has proposed to sweeten the terms of the service contract it is offering to international oil firms to boost output at its biggest producing oilfields. The following lists some of the changes in the 20-year contracts proposed during a three-day workshop Iraqi officials hosted for oil firms in Istanbul that ended on Saturday.

Iraq has changed the ownership structure of the joint field operating units that will be established to run the fields and boost output. Iraq will own 25 percent of the units, while international oil companies will own the rest. The initial split was 49-51 percent.

The stake change will make no difference to investment for oil firms, as they were expected to invest for the Iraq unit and carry the cost.

You need to stop blowing George, Mitt's getting jealous but kool-aide is kool-aid to a teabagger.

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Wall Street Government wrote:
<quoted text>No, they were given out in 2009.

Maybe YOU should do some BASIC research and not post crap, the Iraq government run oil companies DO NOT enter competitive bids. DUMBSHIT.

2/14/2009

Iraq has proposed to sweeten the terms of the service contract it is offering to international oil firms to boost output at its biggest producing oilfields. The following lists some of the changes in the 20-year contracts proposed during a three-day workshop Iraqi officials hosted for oil firms in Istanbul that ended on Saturday.

Iraq has changed the ownership structure of the joint field operating units that will be established to run the fields and boost output. Iraq will own 25 percent of the units, while international oil companies will own the rest. The initial split was 49-51 percent.

The stake change will make no difference to investment for oil firms, as they were expected to invest for the Iraq unit and carry the cost.

You need to stop blowing George, Mitt's getting jealous but kool-aide is kool-aid to a teabagger.
You are a fuckingidiot who knows nothing of the world stage. The info you posted is almost 4 years old, things change and national strategies change. The west has limited stake in Iraq, but go ahead, keep spewing the party line. You never stop showing what a douchebag you are
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You are a fuckingidiot who knows nothing of the world stage. The info you posted is almost 4 years old, things change and national strategies change. The west has limited stake in Iraq, but go ahead, keep spewing the party line. You never stop showing what a douchebag you are
"Knows nothing of the world stage"?

You just proved you didn't.

"Info is 4 years old"?

That's when the contracts were signed, for a period of 20 YEARS.

"The west has a limited stake in Iraq"?

You said they didn't have ANY stake.

It really must suck to be that stupid.

And arrogant about it.

Poor teabagger.

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Wall Street Government wrote:
<quoted text>"Knows nothing of the world stage"?

You just proved you didn't.

"Info is 4 years old"?

That's when the contracts were signed, for a period of 20 YEARS.

"The west has a limited stake in Iraq"?

You said they didn't have ANY stake.

It really must suck to be that stupid.

And arrogant about it.

Poor teabagger.
You are an idiot that keeps spewingshit out of your pie hole. I laugh at your ineptitude, fuckinpuke

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