Gabrielle Giffords, husband Mark Kell...

Gabrielle Giffords, husband Mark Kelly launch anti-gun violence group

There are 28 comments on the The Washington Post story from Jan 8, 2013, titled Gabrielle Giffords, husband Mark Kelly launch anti-gun violence group. In it, The Washington Post reports that:

Former congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords and her husband, astronaut Mark Kelly, launched a campaign Tuesday that they said would push for stricter gun laws and counter the political influence of the National Rifle Association.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at The Washington Post.

First Prev
of 2
Next Last
Besara

Des Moines, IA

#1 Jan 8, 2013
Never let a tragedy go to waster. Right out of the Saul Alinsky book.

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

Manchester, KY

#3 Jan 8, 2013
Besara wrote:
Never let a tragedy go to waster. Right out of the Saul Alinsky book.
Absolutely ... The fact that people with guns save more lives each year than people with guns kill each year is never brought up...

The push now is on semi automatic rifles with either a look or that hold more than 10 rounds.... So let's have some facts about these deadly rifles...

in 2011... there were 1,694 murders using Knives, there were 726 murders using hands and feet, there were 496 murders using Hammers and there were only 323 using Rifles of All Types (So called Assault Rifles were only 123) so let's be honest about what the problem is...

Of the Gun Violence issues you will find that 94% occur in cities with populations above 250,000 where the existing Gun Laws are strict already... Where this last event happened so called Assault Weapons were already banned.... In 90% of all Gun Murders in the US the person committing the murders were already Banned from having the gun in the first place...
Say the Truth

Eatontown, NJ

#4 Jan 8, 2013
Why don't they launch a campaign to get nutcases off the streets?

“My Life Is A Shell Game”

Since: May 07

Lapeer, MI

#5 Jan 8, 2013
Ms. Giffords needs to be stopped. Yes, we all feel her pain but we all don't share her stupidity. Sorry, lady.

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

Manchester, KY

#6 Jan 8, 2013
Say the Truth wrote:
Why don't they launch a campaign to get nutcases off the streets?
It's not just nut cases as they actually make up a Very small percentage of the problem... If you want to know what the problem is just look at the stats ... In a word "Dependency" ... When a group of people become dependent they become violent within the group.. Even as an Individual just about all the murders are committed by people that are dependent on Drugs, Booze, Mother/Father, government for them to make it through life....

“ROCK ON ROCKERS!!”

Since: Mar 11

Rockin' USA ;)

#7 Jan 8, 2013
NOW, he's doing it..OMG!!
Say the Truth

Eatontown, NJ

#8 Jan 8, 2013
Quantummist wrote:
<quoted text>
It's not just nut cases as they actually make up a Very small percentage of the problem... If you want to know what the problem is just look at the stats ... In a word "Dependency" ... When a group of people become dependent they become violent within the group.. Even as an Individual just about all the murders are committed by people that are dependent on Drugs, Booze, Mother/Father, government for them to make it through life....
Well, maybe, but I and others have noticed that the bulk of these situations had the perpetrators on some kind of psych meds.
Far Away

Anchorage, AK

#9 Jan 8, 2013
They want to start a violent group of anti-gun nuts?

To story headline writers: you need another hyphen to make the headline mean what you intended, i.e., "anti-gun-violence group".

“squuuze me”

Since: Feb 09

Florida, USA

#10 Jan 8, 2013
Quantummist wrote:
<quoted text>
Absolutely ... The fact that people with guns save more lives each year than people with guns kill each year is never brought up...
The push now is on semi automatic rifles with either a look or that hold more than 10 rounds.... So let's have some facts about these deadly rifles...
in 2011... there were 1,694 murders using Knives, there were 726 murders using hands and feet, there were 496 murders using Hammers and there were only 323 using Rifles of All Types (So called Assault Rifles were only 123) so let's be honest about what the problem is...
Of the Gun Violence issues you will find that 94% occur in cities with populations above 250,000 where the existing Gun Laws are strict already... Where this last event happened so called Assault Weapons were already banned.... In 90% of all Gun Murders in the US the person committing the murders were already Banned from having the gun in the first place...
This is good intelligence, if only you would of backed it up with source information ...cus sure as shootin somebody's gonna ask for it.

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

Manchester, KY

#11 Jan 8, 2013
hick-up wrote:
<quoted text>
This is good intelligence, if only you would of backed it up with source information ...cus sure as shootin somebody's gonna ask for it.
FBI Violent Crime Statistics..

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/ucr

Assorted Stats and tables ...
Patriot

Longmont, CO

#12 Jan 8, 2013
The Jared Lee Loughner Investigation

They go over the shooting of Gabrielle “Gabby” Giffords and all of the weirdness surrounding it.

http://www.federaljack.com/...

“squuuze me”

Since: Feb 09

Florida, USA

#13 Jan 8, 2013
Quantummist wrote:
<quoted text>
FBI Violent Crime Statistics..
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/ucr
Assorted Stats and tables ...
Excellent
I'll check that out ...thanks.

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

Manchester, KY

#14 Jan 8, 2013
hick-up wrote:
<quoted text>
Excellent
I'll check that out ...thanks.
Check this out.. Let me pick Lovely California... Land of Flower Children and laid back pot smokers...

Since the Weapons that are being demonized are those mean old assault rifles I found this interesting...

in 2011 there was 1,790 Murders.... Of those 96% happened in L.A., San Francisco, Bakersfield and Fresno... Of those 1,790 murders 45 were murdered using Rifles (All Types) while 261 were with Knives and 101 were beaten to death.....

So they would have Much better results if they banned Knives or made everyone wear thick soft gloves and booties...

Now there was 866 Handgun Murders but since Hand Guns are all but Banned in L.A., San Francisco, Bakersfield and Fresno with some of the most restrictive laws in the United States on possession of handguns might it not be fair to say such bans Don't Work....
rider

Marquette, MI

#15 Jan 8, 2013
The American International Group, Inc.—which would be extinct were it not for a $182-plus billion bailout, and whose profits would be far lower were it not for the continuing tax breaks it receives—is pondering whether it will join a lawsuit charging unfair treatment by the U.S. government. Say what?
Yes, the AIG board is meeting Wednesday to decide whether to go forward with the suit. What's at issue? The government, the claim goes, was too tough in its terms for the bailout, charged too much interest, diluted shareholders' stake in the firm and violated the Fifth Amendment's takings clause.
The deciders are meeting as AIG's sugary "Thank you, America" ad campaign moves through its second week. The campaign notes that the company has repaid the direct aid of $182 billion and even made $22 billion profit in the deal. Thanks, Americans, and now bend over:

Maurice R. Greenberg, A.I.G.’s former chief executive, who remains a major investor in the company, filed the lawsuit in 2011 on behalf of fellow shareholders. He has since urged A.I.G. to join the case, a move that could nudge the government into settlement talks.[...]
Some government officials are already upset with the company for even seriously entertaining the lawsuit, people briefed on the matter said. The people, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, noted that without the bailout, A.I.G. shareholders would have fared far worse in bankruptcy.[...]
“The government has been saying,‘We’re your friend, we owned and controlled you and we let you go.’ But A.I.G. doesn’t owe loyalty to the government,” a person close to Mr. Greenberg said.“It owes loyalty to its shareholders.”[...]
The Treasury Department declined to comment. A spokesman for the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, Jack Gutt, said,“There is no merit to these allegations.” He noted that “A.I.G.’s board of directors had an alternative choice to borrowing from the Federal Reserve, and that choice was bankruptcy.”
rider

Marquette, MI

#16 Jan 8, 2013
www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/07/mass-sho...
You +1'd this publicly. Undo
Dec 15, 2012 – The horrific mass murder at a movie theater in Colorado on July 20, another ... barrage of state laws rolling back gun restrictions across the US.

“squuuze me”

Since: Feb 09

Florida, USA

#17 Jan 9, 2013
Quantummist wrote:
<quoted text>
FBI Violent Crime Statistics..
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/ucr
Assorted Stats and tables ...
Wow ...lots of interesting stuff on this website. I'll refer to this often.

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

Manchester, KY

#18 Jan 9, 2013
hick-up wrote:
<quoted text>
Wow ...lots of interesting stuff on this website. I'll refer to this often.
Yup.. It's one of my Goto sites... Just wish the people that makes our laws would thumb through it from time to time...
Post Turtle

Cherokee Village, AR

#19 Jan 9, 2013
Typical government lyes. Don't miss this Vid

https://www.youtube.com/watch_popup...

“ROCK ON ROCKERS!!”

Since: Mar 11

Rockin' USA ;)

#20 Jan 9, 2013
YOU can PUSH all ya want..illegal guns are everywhere. If someone wants a gun..THEY will get one, even yours during a home invasion. WHAT is NEEDED is STRICTER LAWS..for those WHO commit murders and were witnessed doing so..INSTANT death sentence. NO three hops and a flop. Just good ole' Old West lynching.. Find a tree and a rope.

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

Manchester, KY

#21 Jan 9, 2013
hick-up wrote:
<quoted text>
Wow ...lots of interesting stuff on this website. I'll refer to this often.
Here's the thing that about everyone is no pointing too.... No One in DC is screaming about Hand Guns.... They know they would run afoul of the last SCOTUS rulings that stopped cities from banning hand guns... So All the calls Only Concern So Called Assault Rifles .. Not even All Rifles... Yet they are screaming about US Murder Rates by Firearms... So they are using Hand Gun Stats to push banning of a sub set of Rifles... It's a Argument for Idiots to agree with not thinking people.... No one has even pointed to the use of a set of stats that has Nothing to do with the weapons at Question...

Look through the FBI Murder Rates and Only consider Rifle Rates with the understanding that only a 3rd of the rifles in the stats fall under the umbrella of "Assault Weapon" ...

So in 2011 Total Homicides in the US that would be prevented if we were to Totally Ban, Confiscate, track down and destroy all Rifles of All Kinds (IF it were even possible) would be... Drum Roll.... 323 Yep.. that's not a typo... In 2011 (Last year of stats) there was a Grand Total of 323 Homicides by Rifle but there is even a caveat to that.. That Number includes Justifiable Homicides.. 22 Rifle Homicides were Justified ... So that Leaves 301 Homicides that might be prevented if you found away to get every rifle..Hunting, target, plinking, assault off the streets..(Impossible)... But we have no way of knowing if those 22 Justifiable Homicides may have saved at least 22 lives... If there had been no rifles those Justifiable Homicides would not have happened to stop those people from killing whole families...

BUT using those same FBI Statistics if we were to Ban, Destroy, Confiscate Knives we would save 1,694 lives....

Tell me when this thread is updated:

Subscribe Now Add to my Tracker
First Prev
of 2
Next Last

Add your comments below

Characters left: 4000

Please note by submitting this form you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

Top Stories - Gabrielle Giffords Discussions

Title Updated Last By Comments
News Gabrielle Giffords' husband smacks down Wayne L... (Jan '13) Feb '13 RustyS 7
News Gabrielle Giffords opens up on shooting anniver... (Jan '13) Jan '13 barefoot2626 32
News Gabrielle Giffords visits Newtown (Jan '13) Jan '13 no more drugs 13
News Gabrielle Giffords tours European physics lab (Jul '12) Jan '13 Besara 21
News Gabrielle Giffords will resign (Jan '12) Feb '12 Highly Educated 5
News Gabrielle Giffords bids farewell to Tucson cons... (Jan '12) Jan '12 I agree 5
News The Caucus: An Emotional Farewell to Gabrielle ... (Jan '12) Jan '12 alternative med 7
More from around the web