Governor Hires Private Firm in Gay Marriage Case

Mar 13, 2014 Full story: ABC News 65

Gov. Steve Beshear says the state has hired a private law firm to represent him in appealing a judge's order for Kentucky to recognize same-sex marriages performed in other states or countries.

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Milton

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#1 Mar 13, 2014
Way to go Gov. Steve Beshear!

Fight to the end to protect the normal decent people of Kentucky!

Real families and traditional values are worth fighting for!

Thank you sir!

Since: Jun 13

Phoenix, AZ

#2 Mar 13, 2014
Because private representation has proved SO effective and SO cost effective.

You have no valid legal argument. You can't buy one.
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#3 Mar 13, 2014
AdamAZ wrote:
Because private representation has proved SO effective and SO cost effective.
You have no valid legal argument. You can't buy one.
They have two.
1. The power to define marriage is with the state.
2. Section 2 of DOMA has not been stricken, it still stands.

Section 2. Powers reserved to the states. No State, territory, or possession of the United States, or Indian tribe, shall be required to give effect to any public act, record, or judicial proceeding of any other State, territory, possession, or tribe respecting a relationship between persons of the same sex that is treated as a marriage under the laws of such other State, territory, possession, or tribe, or a right or claim arising from such relationship.

“Together for 24, legal for 5”

Since: Sep 07

Littleton, NH

#4 Mar 13, 2014
Wondering wrote:
<quoted text>
They have two.
1. The power to define marriage is with the state.
2. Section 2 of DOMA has not been stricken, it still stands.
Section 2. Powers reserved to the states. No State, territory, or possession of the United States, or Indian tribe, shall be required to give effect to any public act, record, or judicial proceeding of any other State, territory, possession, or tribe respecting a relationship between persons of the same sex that is treated as a marriage under the laws of such other State, territory, possession, or tribe, or a right or claim arising from such relationship.
States may reserve powers to enact their own laws. But laws--whether enacted by the state OR federal government--may not arbitrarily discriminate against classes of people. So far, every court that has considered the case has found that laws prohibiting same-sex marriage arbitrarily discriminate against people who wish to marry a same sex partner.

Since: Dec 08

El Paso, TX

#5 Mar 13, 2014
Milton wrote:
Way to go Gov. Steve Beshear!
Fight to the end to protect the normal decent people of Kentucky!
Real families and traditional values are worth fighting for!
Thank you sir!
Might as well toss the attorney fees into the toilet and start flushing. Not one legal team has won one of these cases. You lose.

Since: Jun 13

Phoenix, AZ

#6 Mar 13, 2014
Wondering wrote:
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They have two.
1. The power to define marriage is with the state.
2. Section 2 of DOMA has not been stricken, it still stands.
Section 2. Powers reserved to the states. No State, territory, or possession of the United States, or Indian tribe, shall be required to give effect to any public act, record, or judicial proceeding of any other State, territory, possession, or tribe respecting a relationship between persons of the same sex that is treated as a marriage under the laws of such other State, territory, possession, or tribe, or a right or claim arising from such relationship.
That's not going to work for you.
1. They'll decide that the state may, in fact, refuse to recognize same sex marriage, and all they need to do is come up with a compelling state interest to discriminate. Good luck with that.
2. The point will be moot because the state will be required to provide in state marriage licenses to same sex couples.

“Common courtesy, isn't”

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#7 Mar 13, 2014
In filing this frivolous, money-wasting lawsuit, Beshear is taking no personal political risk; due to term limits, he's ineligible to seek reelection in 2015.

And since the state of Kentucky will lose the lawsuit, he's actually providing a means for the question to be settled before he leaves office, which will take the heat off the next Democratic gubernatorial candidate who seeks the office.

In addition, the sooner he filed, the sooner the issue will be settled.

I see this as a long-term win/win for the GLBTQ community and the Democratic Party.

“Together for 24, legal for 5”

Since: Sep 07

Littleton, NH

#8 Mar 13, 2014
Otter in the Ozarks wrote:
In filing this frivolous, money-wasting lawsuit, Beshear is taking no personal political risk; due to term limits, he's ineligible to seek reelection in 2015.
And since the state of Kentucky will lose the lawsuit, he's actually providing a means for the question to be settled before he leaves office, which will take the heat off the next Democratic gubernatorial candidate who seeks the office.
In addition, the sooner he filed, the sooner the issue will be settled.
I see this as a long-term win/win for the GLBTQ community and the Democratic Party.
Interesting view point. This also keeps the defense somewhat under Beshear's control. Maybe he's really on our side.

Really, though, he should let NOM et al pick up the legal tab.
Sen Rick Saintpornum

Philadelphia, PA

#9 Mar 13, 2014
Wondering wrote:
<quoted text>
They have two.
1. The power to define marriage is with the state.
2. Section 2 of DOMA has not been stricken, it still stands.
Section 2. Powers reserved to the states.
Hey cretin, a judge has already ruled in KY that the ban violates KY law given that the Supreme Court over ruled all the insane, bigoted, silly "reasons" that fundies wish to invoke to bar marriage equality.

This KY ruling has not yet been made by the Supreme Court.

The reasons for a state to behave this way or that way must be supported by that state's Constitution and not conflict with Supreme Court decisions.

State's don't just get to do whatever they want, no matter whether they're as stupid and sexually sick as you are or not.
Sen Rick Saintpornum

Philadelphia, PA

#10 Mar 13, 2014
I can't wait to see what private counsel KY winds up with. No matter who it is in five years that person will be regarded as the legal profession's equivalent to Kirk Cameron. A fundie niche has-been with a dollop of (denied) hate, imo.

Since: Jul 09

Indy/Philly/Toronto

#11 Mar 13, 2014
I'm sure the people of KY who could use some of the discontinued public services really appreciate their tax dollars going to fight two people they don't know (and will never meet) from having their relationship recognized by the state.
After all, that is way more important than helping the less fortunate of this backwards state.

Kentucky:
# 7 in unemployment
#13 in poverty

Way to go Bashear!
Sen Rick Saintpornum

Philadelphia, PA

#13 Mar 13, 2014
Modern Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey
Hey trash, why didn't you decide to regale us with your knowledge of the law by disproving my post?

Because you're a sexually and intellectually maladapted closet case, that's why. Society's refuse.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#14 Mar 13, 2014
Sen Rick Saintpornum wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey trash, why didn't you decide to regale us with your knowledge of the law by disproving my post?
Because you're a sexually and intellectually maladapted closet case, that's why. Society's refuse.
Relax fruitcake.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#16 Mar 13, 2014
Sen Rick Saintpornum wrote:
I can't wait to see what private counsel KY winds up with. No matter who it is in five years that person will be regarded as the legal profession's equivalent to Kirk Cameron. A fundie niche has-been with a dollop of (denied) hate, imo.
Fruitcake says what?

Since: Jan 08

Thailand

#17 Mar 13, 2014
I thought it was Republicans who were against waste in government spending? Coulda fooled me!(Just another case of Republican hypocrisy.)
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#18 Mar 13, 2014
Sen Rick Saintpornum wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey trash, why didn't you decide to regale us with your knowledge of the law by disproving my post?
Because you're a sexually and intellectually maladapted closet case, that's why. Society's refuse.
You'd know.
Sen Rick Saintpornum

Philadelphia, PA

#19 Mar 13, 2014
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
Relax fruitcake.
Hey moron-who-claims-not-to-be-hom ophobic, why don't you offer some of your thoughts on the matter of states' laws being subject to their own and to the US Constitution?

Because you have nothing. You can manage about two words.
Sen Rick Saintpornum

Philadelphia, PA

#20 Mar 13, 2014
Modern Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey
Hey feces, penis obsessed closet case, you still didn't address the matter of the role of courts.

And we know why: Your chromosomal damage level IQ.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#21 Mar 13, 2014
The Governor has done the job he took an oath to do.

We're still going to demolish them in court.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#22 Mar 13, 2014
Sen Rick Saintpornum wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey moron-who-claims-not-to-be-hom ophobic, why don't you offer some of your thoughts on the matter of states' laws being subject to their own and to the US Constitution?
Because you have nothing. You can manage about two words.
You mad bro? Hey, that's three words.

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