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Rand Paul invokes bestiality while discussing gay marriage, walks it back

There are 297 comments on the The Washington Post story from Jun 27, 2013, titled Rand Paul invokes bestiality while discussing gay marriage, walks it back. In it, The Washington Post reports that:

"It is difficult, because if we have no laws on this, people will take it to one extension further - does it have to be humans?" Paul said Wednesday in an interview with Glenn Beck, after Beck suggested some unintended consequences of the rulings, including polygamy.

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Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#23 Jun 27, 2013
dejavu wrote:
<quoted text>Gay marriage isn't unusual if you're gay.
Having diabetes isn't unusual if you have diabetes.
Being insane isn't unusual if you're insane.
serfs up

Ormond Beach, FL

#24 Jun 27, 2013
tha Professor wrote:
<quoted text>
Nope....none of those things are going to happen. Just more fearmongering (although kinda after-the-fact) from the Rightie extremists, in your caset he fringe 'the world is ending!' club.
It's not 'common sense' to deny gay people marriage rights - it was never 'common sense' to make them into criminals for being what they were, in fact.
I'm far more worried about RELIGIOUS tyranny than political, and the former is what you seem to support.
Thats bull. Decade after decade of we just want this and we just wan that while pushing for more and more insanity that has destroyed cultures in the past proves you wrong. The proof will be when enough are poor. Win with sense is not in your vocabularly. So the system that keeps us going for each generation must be destroyed to keep what you believe in as you don;t try to stem the decline.
Eleanor

Vernon Hills, IL

#25 Jun 27, 2013
Justin wrote:
I wouldn't have a problem with states legalizing gay marriage. That would actually solve other legal issues related to estate, child custody, and employment.
For example, with gay marriage now a legal option, states should no longer require companies to provide benefits to "domestic partners".
That would probably get a bunch of unmarried straight people up to the altar.

<LOL>

"Domestic Partners" aren't just gay, they are also straight couples who live together without benefit of marriage.
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#26 Jun 27, 2013
Justin wrote:
I wouldn't have a problem with states legalizing gay marriage. That would actually solve other legal issues related to estate, child custody, and employment.
For example, with gay marriage now a legal option, states should no longer require companies to provide benefits to "domestic partners".
For some companies the benefit option only applied to gay domestic partners, straight domestic partners were and are being discriminated against.
Justin

United States

#27 Jun 27, 2013
Eleanor wrote:
<quoted text>
That would probably get a bunch of unmarried straight people up to the altar.
<LOL>
"Domestic Partners" aren't just gay, they are also straight couples who live together without benefit of marriage.
Totally true. More straight couples going to the alter will make the religious community happy (perhaps offsetting their consternation at gay marriages), and more domestic parters going to the alter will make the state and coporate community happy. Perhaps the only real losers here are trial layers.

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#28 Jun 27, 2013
Eleanor wrote:
Not too many women would want to keep house for a bunch of guys!!
I guess I have to put the lid back onto the toilet.

I made the mistake of referring to the bathroom sink as the urinal.

Or when I was asked if I peed in the tub, I said that that was GROSS! and then added, oh, do you mean while I am taking a shower...?

Learning to bite my tongue...

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#29 Jun 27, 2013
Eleanor wrote:
"Domestic Partners" aren't just gay, they are also straight couples who live together without benefit of marriage.
Remind again... benefits of marriage?
Justin

United States

#30 Jun 27, 2013
Who here thinks that bestiality should be legal, weither inside or outside marriage?
Eleanor

Vernon Hills, IL

#31 Jun 27, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>
Remind again... benefits of marriage?
The benefits of marriage (the few I can think of)

50% ownership of property not included in the pre-nup
Inheritance without a will or probate
Receiving a portion of the social security benefits when spouse dies
Can file joint income tax returns
Can legally make medical decisions
<LOL> can’t be forced to testify against spouse in court

Here’s six financial benefits:

http://money.msn.com/family-money/6-financial...
Eleanor

Vernon Hills, IL

#32 Jun 27, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>
Remind again... benefits of marriage?
This one is better:

“Besides love and companionship, there are many benefits to marriage, especially in the eyes of the law. In fact, there are 1,138 federal benefits, rights and responsibilities associated with marriage [ref]. In this section, we'll list some of those benefits.
Spouses have or are entitled to:
• visitation rights and can make medical decisions, unless otherwise specified in a living will
• benefits for federal employees -- many of which are also offered by private employers -- such as sick leave, bereavement leave, days off for the birth of a child, pension and retirement benefits, family health insurance plans
• some property and inheritance rights, even in the absence of a will
• the ability to create life insurance trusts
• tax benefits, such as being able to give tax free gifts to a spouse and to file joint tax returns
• the ability to receive Medicare, Social Security, disability and veteran's benefits for a spouse
• discount or family rates for auto, health and homeowners insurance
• immigration and residency benefits, making it easier to bring a spouse to the U.S. from abroad
• visiting rights in jail
Social scientists have also found many positive benefits for married couples and families, including fewer incidents of poverty and mental health problems in families where the parents are married rather than simply cohabitating. Many studies also support the idea that children living with married parents do better in a variety of ways than children in any other living arrangement “

http://people.howstuffworks.com/marriage1.htm
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#33 Jun 27, 2013
Eleanor wrote:
Spouses have or are entitled to:
1. visitation rights and can make medical decisions, unless otherwise specified in a living will
2. benefits for federal employees -- many of which are also offered by private employers -- such as sick leave, bereavement leave, days off for the birth of a child, pension and retirement benefits, family health insurance plans
3. some property and inheritance rights, even in the absence of a will
4. the ability to create life insurance trusts
5. tax benefits, such as being able to give tax free gifts to a spouse and to file joint tax returns
6. the ability to receive Medicare, Social Security, disability and veteran's benefits for a spouse
7. discount or family rates for auto, health and homeowners insurance
8. immigration and residency benefits, making it easier to bring a spouse to the U.S. from abroad
9. visiting rights in jail
10. Social scientists have also found many positive benefits for married couples and families, including fewer incidents of poverty and mental health problems in families where the parents are married rather than simply cohabitating. Many studies also support the idea that children living with married parents do better in a variety of ways than children in any other living arrangement “
http://people.howstuffworks.com/marriage1.htm
1. Fill out a proxy at the hospital in question. All states have them.
2. Partners don't get sick leave whether they're gay or straight. Gay couples can't create children. Many companies offer insurance to gay couples but not to unmarried straight couples.
3. Wills and trusts are available to anyone. If you don't have a will the state decides, gay or straight.
4. Available to anyone.
5. You can give tax free gifts to anyone, there is a $12,000 limit.
6. Anyone who worked 40 quarters will get social security, anyone who turns 65 will get Medicare.
7. I've never heard of such discounts, I have a family.
8. Baloney.
9. Don't break the law.
10. Yes, it's true, kids with a mother and father that love and care about them do better than those in any other marital situation.

Your list is ridiculous.
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#34 Jun 27, 2013
Eleanor wrote:
<quoted text>
The benefits of marriage (the few I can think of)
1. 50% ownership of property not included in the pre-nup
Inheritance without a will or probate
Receiving a portion of the social security benefits when spouse dies
2. Can file joint income tax returns
3. Can legally make medical decisions
4. <LOL> can’t be forced to testify against spouse in court
1. There are two types of ownership. Tenants in common where each partner owns 100% or joint tenants with rights of survivorship. It's that simple and is unaffected who you married or live with.
2. Not always the best option but that's true.
3. Fill out a medical proxy, it's that simple. I had to and I'm not gay.
4. Don't break the law.
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#35 Jun 27, 2013
Eleanor wrote:
"Domestic Partners" aren't just gay, they are also straight couples who live together without benefit of marriage.
True, and many companies discriminate against the straight couples.
Eleanor

Vernon Hills, IL

#36 Jun 27, 2013
Wondering wrote:
<quoted text>
1. There are two types of ownership. Tenants in common where each partner owns 100% or joint tenants with rights of survivorship. It's that simple and is unaffected who you married or live with.
2. Not always the best option but that's true.
3. Fill out a medical proxy, it's that simple. I had to and I'm not gay.
4. Don't break the law.
There is 'property' and then there is real estate property.

The majority of stuff that people jointly own is not titled.

Married people jointly own everything.
Eleanor

Vernon Hills, IL

#37 Jun 27, 2013
Wondering wrote:
<quoted text>
1. Fill out a proxy at the hospital in question. All states have them.
2. Partners don't get sick leave whether they're gay or straight. Gay couples can't create children. Many companies offer insurance to gay couples but not to unmarried straight couples.
3. Wills and trusts are available to anyone. If you don't have a will the state decides, gay or straight.
4. Available to anyone.
5. You can give tax free gifts to anyone, there is a $12,000 limit.
6. Anyone who worked 40 quarters will get social security, anyone who turns 65 will get Medicare.
7. I've never heard of such discounts, I have a family.
8. Baloney.
9. Don't break the law.
10. Yes, it's true, kids with a mother and father that love and care about them do better than those in any other marital situation.
Your list is ridiculous.
Tell that to:

http://people.howstuffworks.com/marriage1.htm

Those are their ideas. Mine comments were up a comment or two prior to this citation.
liberals are heros

Des Moines, IA

#38 Jun 27, 2013
Eleanor wrote:
<quoted text>
The benefits of marriage (the few I can think of)
50% ownership of property not included in the pre-nup
Inheritance without a will or probate
Receiving a portion of the social security benefits when spouse dies
Can file joint income tax returns
Can legally make medical decisions
<LOL> can’t be forced to testify against spouse in court
Here’s six financial benefits:
http://money.msn.com/family-money/6-financial...
don't forget joint ownership of the pick-up truck :)

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#39 Jun 27, 2013
Paul is just using us to try to garner the "slippery slope" vote, who outnumber us by about 8-1.

“Stop the Brain Rot”

Since: Jan 12

Take a Looonng Vacation

#40 Jun 27, 2013
Wondering wrote:
<quoted text>
Having diabetes isn't unusual if you have diabetes.
Being insane isn't unusual if you're insane.
Being a moron isn't unusual if you're a Rightie bigot.

“Stop the Brain Rot”

Since: Jan 12

Take a Looonng Vacation

#41 Jun 27, 2013
serfs up wrote:
<quoted text> Thats bull. Decade after decade of we just want this and we just wan that while pushing for more and more insanity that has destroyed cultures in the past proves you wrong. The proof will be when enough are poor. Win with sense is not in your vocabularly. So the system that keeps us going for each generation must be destroyed to keep what you believe in as you don;t try to stem the decline.
You're a raving lunatic. Have I mentioned that lately?:)

“Stop the Brain Rot”

Since: Jan 12

Take a Looonng Vacation

#42 Jun 27, 2013
Wondering wrote:
<quoted text>
1. Fill out a proxy at the hospital in question. All states have them.
2. Partners don't get sick leave whether they're gay or straight. Gay couples can't create children. Many companies offer insurance to gay couples but not to unmarried straight couples.
3. Wills and trusts are available to anyone. If you don't have a will the state decides, gay or straight.
4. Available to anyone.
5. You can give tax free gifts to anyone, there is a $12,000 limit.
6. Anyone who worked 40 quarters will get social security, anyone who turns 65 will get Medicare.
7. I've never heard of such discounts, I have a family.
8. Baloney.
9. Don't break the law.
10. Yes, it's true, kids with a mother and father that love and care about them do better than those in any other marital situation.
Your list is ridiculous.
Oh, the irony of THAT post....LOL

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