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Manny Pacquiao banned from the Grove over gay marriage remarks

There are 106 comments on the Los Angeles Times story from May 16, 2012, titled Manny Pacquiao banned from the Grove over gay marriage remarks. In it, Los Angeles Times reports that:

"God only expects man and woman to be together and to be legally married," the boxer is quoted as saying.

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Derek

Folsom, CA

#44 May 16, 2012
Voice of Reality wrote:
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Derek, for one who is so self professed as being educated enough to judge the credentials of others, you sure are a stupid SOB. When speaking about the country America is always started with an upper case A. I guess that the Californication Public School system does the best it can with what it has.
OK Gomer a non-capital on a name, so what you degenerate bumkin.

My Californication education helped me become a top 1% income earner, while you remain a redneck bumpkin.

FYI Pacquiao is a 6th grade drop out, who later purchased a degree after becoming wealthy as a fighter.

Don't let the facts cloud your moronic thoughts you primitive hillbilly.
Derek

Folsom, CA

#45 May 16, 2012
Confederate wrote:
<quoted text>Yet he's still more intelligent than you......Go figure.....
Dumb bumpkins always seem to have braindead opinions. Go back to humping your sister jethro. Better yet, brush your tooth.
Aquarius-WY

United States

#46 May 16, 2012
science only wrote:
Anti-Gay Marriage Ban is NOT About Hate - Its About Getting People the Help They Need
How many more gay teenagers have to commit suicide before the gay community realizes suicides are primarily from inner trauma, in this case probably emotional trauma in early childhood, not primarily from external forces such as bullying - and for which people need support, resolution, and help. Unfortunately, they aren't getting that needed help in the gay community. So who is to blame?
How would you explain the gay marraige issue relates to gay teen suicide? Is it a factor in gay teen suicide? If so ... how?
Aquarius-WY

United States

#47 May 16, 2012
cpeter1313 wrote:
The 1st amendment applies to GOVERNMENT stifling of free speech. Companies can in fact control what employees say and can ban private citizens whose presence can be disruptive. Given that this guy isn't even a citizen, his "rights" don't exist.
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What say you about the government stifling Ted Nugent's first amendment rights when the government banned him from Fort Knox all because of something he said?

“Evolved hunter/gatherer”

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#48 May 16, 2012
Derek wrote:
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OK Gomer a non-capital on a name, so what you degenerate bumkin.
My Californication education helped me become a top 1% income earner, while you remain a redneck bumpkin.
FYI Pacquiao is a 6th grade drop out, who later purchased a degree after becoming wealthy as a fighter.
Don't let the facts cloud your moronic thoughts you primitive hillbilly.
What is your "fair share" of taxes on that top 1% wage you say you earn?

Is 90% of your earnings "fair"?
Blacktigershark

Edmonton, Canada

#49 May 16, 2012
Derek wrote:
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OK Gomer a non-capital on a name, so what you degenerate bumkin.
My Californication education helped me become a top 1% income earner, while you remain a redneck bumpkin.
FYI Pacquiao is a 6th grade drop out, who later purchased a degree after becoming wealthy as a fighter.
Don't let the facts cloud your moronic thoughts you primitive hillbilly.
So the fact that Pacquiao purchased a degree, AFTER becoming a wealthy fighter, as you claim, makes him less of a figure than Mitt Romney how?

Sometimes, people's anger and jealousy cloud their common sense. This seems to be the case where you are concerned, Derek! Your Californian education made you a top 1% income earner. Pacquiao used his fists to make more money in a year than you make in decades. Surely, Pacquiao doesn't care what you think of him...his hundreds of millions of dollars will be his comforting resolve at the end of the day...he may deem YOU to be a primitive hillbilly...do you really care what he thinks about you, Derek? Cause Pacquiao ain't caring about what you think about him! Actually, he's hoping that you bet against him in every upcoming fight that he participates in, so that he can make you lose your money, just like he's destroying his opponents, and all the other anti-Pacquiao fans! You shouldn't indulge the beast, Derek...take the high road, and just ignore Pacquiao!

Since: Jul 09

Location hidden

#50 May 16, 2012
Blacktigershark wrote:
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So the fact that Pacquiao purchased a degree, AFTER becoming a wealthy fighter, as you claim, makes him less of a figure than Mitt Romney how?
Sometimes, people's anger and jealousy cloud their common sense. This seems to be the case where you are concerned, Derek! Your Californian education made you a top 1% income earner. Pacquiao used his fists to make more money in a year than you make in decades. Surely, Pacquiao doesn't care what you think of him...his hundreds of millions of dollars will be his comforting resolve at the end of the day...he may deem YOU to be a primitive hillbilly...do you really care what he thinks about you, Derek? Cause Pacquiao ain't caring about what you think about him! Actually, he's hoping that you bet against him in every upcoming fight that he participates in, so that he can make you lose your money, just like he's destroying his opponents, and all the other anti-Pacquiao fans! You shouldn't indulge the beast, Derek...take the high road, and just ignore Pacquiao!
LOTS of people 'buy' their education. It's call 'Tuition'.
Unfortunately, all too many of them want you and I to pay their debt. That's called OWS.
You're right about Pacquiano. He got his the same way a baseball, basketball, football, etc.(heck ALL Professional Atheletes) get theirs. Fair? I don't think so. But who am I? Fact is, they get it, it's earned, and it's legal.
Far more acceptable to me than waltzing in to Hollywood as the Guest of Honor at a $40,000 a plate dinner just a few miles from Skid Row, swapping jokes with other 1%'rs and the next day talking about how the 'rich' don't pay their fair share - and THE NEXT DAY hob-nobbing with the Wall Street Crowd and getting MORE donations, and THE NEXT DAY talking about hos the 'rich' don't pay their fair share.
What is this guy, that he thinks we aren't paying attention?
And his 'evolution'? You KNOW it was all about the vote - Gays don't matter to him any more than any other Mainstream American Citizen.
It's all about the money and prestige with Obama. He's lying through his teeth about his concerns, and that's okay with people like Rick Caruso.
But Manny Pacquiano speaks from his heart; about what he believes - and he's a pariah; banned from the Grove.
Like he really cares, right?
I wouldn't.
Saneinaninsanewo rld

United States

#51 May 16, 2012
cpeter1313 wrote:
The 1st amendment applies to GOVERNMENT stifling of free speech. Companies can in fact control what employees say and can ban private citizens whose presence can be disruptive. Given that this guy isn't even a citizen, his "rights" don't exist.
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I'm glad to hear you say that- you must then support the deportatiion of illegal aliens? After all they aren't citizens therefore they have no rights

“Luke laughs at hypocrites!”

Since: Sep 10

Palm Springs, California

#52 May 16, 2012
Anonymous wrote:
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I'll let them know how I feel by NOT shopping there.
Hilarious, they would try to show their support for freedom, by banning someone. Idiots.
Ooh, so speaks Carson, home to Cripps AND Bloods alike. They wouldn't LET you shop at the Grove. Too high end. Say hi to Wal-mart for us, will ya?
dummybarker

Philippines

#53 May 16, 2012
Youre gonna ban a 10 time world boxing champion from ever going to a stupid mall? Manny Pacquiao doesnt give a rat's ass if hes banned from that mall. That punishment will only have an effect on a 14- year old girl.
Blacktigershark

Edmonton, Canada

#54 May 16, 2012
Curteese wrote:
<quoted text>Ooh, so speaks Carson, home to Cripps AND Bloods alike. They wouldn't LET you shop at the Grove. Too high end. Say hi to Wal-mart for us, will ya?
Who says that Grove mall is 'high end', Curteese? Grove mall probably survives on its lowlife faithful going there religiously 3 times a week! This is probably why Mr. Rick Caruso felt that in order to keep his razor thin profits rolling in, he would have to take the unpopular stance in suppressing a boxing superstar's right to freely express himself, in order to prevent to risk offending his loyal handful of shoppers!

By the way, it isn't like Wal-Mart is all that welcoming either...you'd fit in perfectly there (after Wal-Mart pays out millions in settlements to other affected patrons that were discriminated against)! LOL!

http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/mobile/news/Ma...

“Evolved hunter/gatherer”

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#57 May 17, 2012
Voice of Reality wrote:
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Derek, please, go to the blackboard and write 100 times, a comma is my friend.
Or Derek could save time and chalk and just omit one of those little "m"s and still have an accurate statement.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#58 May 17, 2012
Immigration is the sole province of the feds per the constitution; states don't have a say in how immigraton does its job.

Non-citizens do not have rights per the constitution. Your list of advantages they may be able to access is not about rights.

A public facility is not government property. Now that this dumb jock has shot his mouth off, the privately-owned facility can mitigate possible violence by refusing to have him there. if a klan group wanted to set up in the mall, they too could be denied. The owners have right to protect their investment and to protect their renters and staff.

Only right-wing morons equate democrats with socialists. Most of us are supremely capitalistic. I assure you, if you were on fire I wouldn't raise a hand to help you until I got some kind of payment.
lastoutlaw wrote:
<quoted text>Your last statement first.
"Given that this guy isn't even a citizen, his "rights" don't exist."
Tell that to Arizona; which is saying the same thing; yet Obama's Administration is suing them for SB 1070; which is a State's clarification through it's Senate on how to uphold the Federal Immigration Laws.
Non-Citizens in the United States have more rights than those who were born here. They get in-state tuition for their children which American Citizens cannot get. They get preferential treatment in legal matters, government aid, a 'pass' on vehicle impound for driving unlicensed or uninsured that native born cannot get.
Your next statement - any facility available for use as a public venue is considered a Public Facility. And if you believe that 'Freedom Of Speech' only prevents 'GOVERNMENT stifling', you are incorrect.
There is a difference between disruptive and normal discourse. We are entitled to our opinions; THAT is what the First Amendment protects - and if banning Manny Pacquiao from the Groves (which he probably never patronized and may never intend to; so this is 'posturing' on the part of Rick Caruso and an empty statement) while thugs can walk through with their obscene language, gestures and dress are permitted is discriminatory - and in a court of law, Caruso could and most likely WOULD lose his defense of the banning.
After all; one must have a valid reason and 'I don't like his opinions' is laughable and unenforceable as a reason to ban somebody. His physical presense disruptive? I'd be more concerned about my physical safety around the thugs who obviously ARE welcome; intimidating and threatening by their appearance while a polite, well-mannered and well dressed Manny Pacquiao is not?
I wonder - would Caruso ban President Romney if his motorcade came through and he decided to do a little shopping?
Or would he bend over backwards for the publicity his property would acquire by being able to advertize that 'Romney Stopped Here'?
Caruso is obviously a conumdrum. A Capitolist Democrat. A conflict within himself.
It's a wonder people like him don't self-destruct; they hate themselves so much.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#59 May 17, 2012
Feel free to name any president who did NOT give his opinion on one topic while in office, aside possibly for harrison, who died month aft3er taking office and had pneumonia during most of it.

Obama isn't being divisive; he is giving HIS opinion for the rights of americans. The boxer is being divisive by using religion to take away rights from Americans (something he is not.)

Of course, when his brain turns completely to tapioca as most boxers' do, he'd best hope none of his attendants are gay.
Voice of Reality wrote:
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I guess that depends on which side of the convesation you are on.
obama is attempting to use the office to ram his opinions down our throat. The boxer is only stating his opinion on his dime, not ours.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#60 May 17, 2012
When you threaten to kill the president, you tend to lose bookings on US MILITARY institutions. He could actually go to jail; I suggest he not complain about losing a concert date instead.

You might note that if ANYONE made a serious threat about killing a president and was known to have firearms and other weapons, chances are ANY contract they had with the government would be cancelled tout de suite.
Aquarius-WY wrote:
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What say you about the government stifling Ted Nugent's first amendment rights when the government banned him from Fort Knox all because of something he said?

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#61 May 17, 2012
When you're done jacking off to your hero, feel free to prove he has hundreds of millions of dollars. BTW--mafia hitmen make good money, too; doesn't make them decent or honorable. Boxing is just a slightly-more controlled form of assault and battery. His morality is not particularly interesting to me.
Blacktigershark wrote:
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So the fact that Pacquiao purchased a degree, AFTER becoming a wealthy fighter, as you claim, makes him less of a figure than Mitt Romney how?
Sometimes, people's anger and jealousy cloud their common sense. This seems to be the case where you are concerned, Derek! Your Californian education made you a top 1% income earner. Pacquiao used his fists to make more money in a year than you make in decades. Surely, Pacquiao doesn't care what you think of him...his hundreds of millions of dollars will be his comforting resolve at the end of the day...he may deem YOU to be a primitive hillbilly...do you really care what he thinks about you, Derek? Cause Pacquiao ain't caring about what you think about him! Actually, he's hoping that you bet against him in every upcoming fight that he participates in, so that he can make you lose your money, just like he's destroying his opponents, and all the other anti-Pacquiao fans! You shouldn't indulge the beast, Derek...take the high road, and just ignore Pacquiao!

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#62 May 17, 2012
If there were a feasible way of doing it, fine. But there are over 11 million illegals in this country (supposedly); we have neither the budget nor the manpower to find them and deport them. They do not have rights but they do have legal protections, both by our laws and under various accords we have with the UN and other countries. At this point, it would cost us far more to enforce such laws than to allow them to remain here.
Saneinaninsaneworld wrote:
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I'm glad to hear you say that- you must then support the deportatiion of illegal aliens? After all they aren't citizens therefore they have no rights
Blacktigershark

Edmonton, Canada

#64 May 17, 2012
Just as you said in your quote, cpeter1313, Obama is giving his opinion, right? Pacquiao was asked about gay marriage, and he gave HIS opinion. Show how Pacquiao's opinion, as a person that you have already depicted is NOT American, and has no real impact on the laws that are passed in America, is being divisive where stating his opinion is concerned, cpeter.

In the end, it isn't about Manny's opinion, because that really doesn't matter. Many people in America take a strong stance against what Obama is suggesting where marriage equality is concerned, but it isn't about Obama's opinion either. And it isn't about your opinion, it isn't about David Duke's opinion, it isn't about my opinion. Anyone can state their opinion, cpeter, but who gives a damn about a flipping opinion, yo? IT IS ABOUT WHAT IS FAIR AND WHAT IS RIGHT! This very well is the truth, is it not? Or do you want to argue with me about that too, because I have a resounding point that I saved for an argumentative person JUST LIKE YOU!
cpeter1313 wrote:
Feel free to name any president who did NOT give his opinion on one topic while in office, aside possibly for harrison, who died month aft3er taking office and had pneumonia during most of it.
Obama isn't being divisive; he is giving HIS opinion for the rights of americans. The boxer is being divisive by using religion to take away rights from Americans (something he is not.)
Of course, when his brain turns completely to tapioca as most boxers' do, he'd best hope none of his attendants are gay.
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Anonymous

Lynwood, CA

#65 May 17, 2012
Curteese wrote:
<quoted text>Ooh, so speaks Carson, home to Cripps AND Bloods alike. They wouldn't LET you shop at the Grove. Too high end. Say hi to Wal-mart for us, will ya?
What a moron. Not smart enough to know that the location shown can be anywhere, depending on where your ISP's servers are located.

That's OK, Gomer. We're all God's children...even "special" people like you. Have a great day!
Blacktigershark

Edmonton, Canada

#66 May 17, 2012
Do the math, cpeter1313...I really think that you are trying to dumb yourself down, and that don't look good on you. Not that Pacquiao's money is the focal point here, however, if you want to follow his money, how about you look at how many fights he has fought (about 60 I think), and multiply that by an average of 2 million per fight (keeping it to the lowest denominator here...you know, after taxes and other fees that his promoters and other parties get...2 million is his take home money, let's say). Can you tell the forum what number you came up with, cpeter1313? I'm counting on you to get the answer right this time!:D

By the way, who says that mafia hitmen make good money? Spoke to Sammy the Bull lately? Oh, and can you point out in my last comment where I stated that Pacquiao is a decent or honourable individual? I'm pretty sure I didn't say that, but maybe I'm mistaken...you know how to cut and paste, right genius? Manny Pacquiao's morality isn't something that I delved upon where it came to this issue, right cpeter? You did that all on your own...I suggest that you take your own advice, and refrain from jacking off your 5" erect penis to Manny Pacquiao's photos, because Manny don't swing that way (maybe Oscar De La Hoya or Miguel Cotto would cater to your desires though!).

As for my hero, cpeter1313, that easily would be myself! Ain't nobody better than me in my opinion, trust!(: I don't have a need to jack off to myself, but I can see why you may think that I would be doing just that though! Can't help but love me, huh? LOL!
cpeter1313 wrote:
When you're done jacking off to your hero, feel free to prove he has hundreds of millions of dollars. BTW--mafia hitmen make good money, too; doesn't make them decent or honorable. Boxing is just a slightly-more controlled form of assault and battery. His morality is not particularly interesting to me.
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