Philippine Warship, China Ships in St...

Philippine Warship, China Ships in Standoff

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shi gong

Kowloon, Hong Kong

#61 Apr 11, 2012
Derek wrote:
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Chinese are numbered in the billions, but the men are small, timid and weak. China also has no modern military technology making them easy pray if it came down to the U.S having to put them in their place.
and just how are you going to pay for the war? by borrowing money from us? lol youre too funny, and besides the second you attack us, Iran and their Islamic pals are going to kick your arses..with their nukes and hopefully they're finished studying the CIA dogs fallen UAV technology and ready for the majestic showdown
shi gong

Kowloon, Hong Kong

#62 Apr 11, 2012
oh i forgot, the Iranians have traded the drone with some second hand Chinese hardwares
Derek

Jacó, Costa Rica

#63 Apr 11, 2012
shi gong wrote:
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and just how are you going to pay for the war? by borrowing money from us? lol youre too funny, and besides the second you attack us, Iran and their Islamic pals are going to kick your arses..with their nukes and hopefully they're finished studying the CIA dogs fallen UAV technology and ready for the majestic showdown
Renig on the debt, stop paying it, use the money and our advanced/superior weapons to whip you out.

Fact; there nukes ca't fly this far and we possess advanced missle defense systems. We're good. The Philippines is one this, the USA is to much for you lames.
Derek

Jacó, Costa Rica

#64 Apr 11, 2012
shi gong wrote:
oh i forgot, the Iranians have traded the drone with some second hand Chinese hardwares
Beside we don't need money to fight a nuke war, we have them built and ready to go. No country has more or better.

We could whip out China, Iran, and basically the entire planet in less than a day. We remain the big dog on the block.
shi gong

Kowloon, Hong Kong

#65 Apr 12, 2012
Derek wrote:
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Renig on the debt, stop paying it, use the money and our advanced/superior weapons to whip you out.
Fact; there nukes ca't fly this far and we possess advanced missle defense systems. We're good. The Philippines is one this, the USA is to much for you lames.
oooh im afraid!
well if thats true, why dont you use it on afghanistan or iraq, or libya?

now that makes me amazed at how advanced we are that we could hack into the "advanced" pentagon real easily, i wonder how many "secret" technologies we've downloaded from penta-share
berserker

Chantilly, VA

#66 Apr 12, 2012
thats why the US should have given the idea a go when MacArthur advised China to be nuked

Since: Jun 11

Location hidden

#68 Apr 12, 2012
shi gong wrote:
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and just how are you going to pay for the war? by borrowing money from us? lol youre too funny, and besides the second you attack us, Iran and their Islamic pals are going to kick your arses..with their nukes and hopefully they're finished studying the CIA dogs fallen UAV technology and ready for the majestic showdown
typical Chinese, too ignorant to see you are not the only one who is owed money. As Derek said anyways, stop paying the debt (its a two edged sword). Even better yet, certainly the whole world would chip inb to take you all out. Fact- Nobody likes the Chinese .... lmao not even Taiwan or Hong Kong and you claim them to be yours haha

Since: Apr 09

Makati, Philippines

#69 Apr 12, 2012
shi gong wrote:
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oooh im afraid!
well if thats true, why dont you use it on afghanistan or iraq, or libya?
now that makes me amazed at how advanced we are that we could hack into the "advanced" pentagon real easily, i wonder how many "secret" technologies we've downloaded from penta-share
Get ready my friend, you wanted a capitalist market now you have it. Your economy grew so fast like all things you will soon hit a major downturn in your economy.

Since: Jun 11

Location hidden

#70 Apr 12, 2012
Don the American wrote:
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Get ready my friend, you wanted a capitalist market now you have it. Your economy grew so fast like all things you will soon hit a major downturn in your economy.
Things are heating up here with China. Now they all love us again and wish we never left....

Since: Apr 09

Makati, Philippines

#71 Apr 12, 2012
pasig yankeeNY wrote:
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Things are heating up here with China. Now they all love us again and wish we never left....
Let the begging begin. Were friends again, love you long time or until the crisis is over. That's the way it's been and will always be.

I can be packed to move to Thailand in an hour.

Since: Jun 11

Location hidden

#72 Apr 12, 2012
Don the American wrote:
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Let the begging begin. Were friends again, love you long time or until the crisis is over. That's the way it's been and will always be.
I can be packed to move to Thailand in an hour.
waiiiiit for meeeee lol
HanSolo

Santa Clara, CA

#73 Apr 12, 2012
Anyone can guess what is the Chinese's intention on this issue? Is it just a psychological game or they are really poking for a war?
61 PERCENT OF THE DEBT

Atlanta, GA

#74 Apr 12, 2012
pasig yankeeNY wrote:
<quoted text>typical Chinese, too ignorant to see you are not the only one who is owed money. As Derek said anyways, stop paying the debt (its a two edged sword). Even better yet, certainly the whole world would chip inb to take you all out. Fact- Nobody likes the Chinese .... lmao not even Taiwan or Hong Kong and you claim them to be yours haha
your too stupid to know that 10 trillion of that debt is owed to YOU the american people..

and that the Chinese have basically stopped buying your debt...

and most important the Chinese people wealth which is at 17 trillion USD equivalent... should see that wealth double if you default on your debt...

btw the world hasnt chipped in to stop americans attacking countries that do not even border it...

so why would they step into maritime border dispute..between China and the Philippines...

bottom line China has 24 million single men who will never get married... who will be full of piss and vinegar

this is about the best time to go to war as any....

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The uninvited guest: Chinese sub pops up in middle of U.S. Navy exercise, leaving military chiefs red-faced

By MATTHEW HICKLEY

10 November 2007


When the U.S. Navy deploys a battle fleet on exercises, it takes the security of its aircraft carriers very seriously indeed.

At least a dozen warships provide a physical guard while the technical wizardry of the world's only military superpower offers an invisible shield to detect and deter any intruders.

That is the theory. Or, rather, was the theory.

Uninvited guest: A Chinese Song Class submarine, like the one that sufaced by the U.S.S. Kitty Hawk

American military chiefs have been left dumbstruck by an undetected Chinese submarine popping up at the heart of a recent Pacific exercise and close to the vast U.S.S. Kitty Hawk - a 1,000ft supercarrier with 4,500 personnel on board.

By the time it surfaced the 160ft Song Class diesel-electric attack submarine is understood to have sailed within viable range for launching torpedoes or missiles at the carrier.

According to senior Nato officials the incident caused consternation in the U.S. Navy.

The Americans had no idea China's fast-growing submarine fleet had reached such a level of sophistication, or that it posed such a threat.

One Nato figure said the effect was "as big a shock as the Russians launching Sputnik" - a reference to the Soviet Union's first orbiting satellite in 1957 which marked the start of the space age.

The incident, which took place in the ocean between southern Japan and Taiwan, is a major embarrassment for the Pentagon.

Battle stations: The Kitty Hawk carries 4,500 personnel

The lone Chinese vessel slipped past at least a dozen other American warships which were supposed to protect the carrier from hostile aircraft or submarines.

And the rest of the costly defensive screen, which usually includes at least two U.S. submarines, was also apparently unable to detect it.

According to the Nato source, the encounter has forced a serious re-think of American and Nato naval strategy as commanders reconsider the level of threat from potentially hostile Chinese submarines.

It also led to tense diplomatic exchanges, with shaken American diplomats demanding to know why the submarine was "shadowing" the U.S. fleet while Beijing pleaded ignorance and dismissed the affair as coincidence.

Analysts believe Beijing was sending a message to America and the West demonstrating its rapidly-growing military capability to threaten foreign powers which try to interfere in its "backyard".

The People's Liberation Army Navy's submarine fleet includes at least two nuclear-missile launching vessels.

Its 13 Song Class submarines are extremely quiet and difficult to detect when running on electric motors.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-49280...
61 PERCENT OF THE DEBT

Atlanta, GA

#75 Apr 12, 2012
Don the American wrote:
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Get ready my friend, you wanted a capitalist market now you have it. Your economy grew so fast like all things you will soon hit a major downturn in your economy.
difference is China put the breaks on their economy...

taking money out and taking away credit....

in the USA you are still throwing money at your economy

600 to 800 billion a year...

money your FED is printing out of thin air...

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61 PERCENT OF THE DEBT

Atlanta, GA

#76 Apr 12, 2012
most important... China could help hasten the fall of America by forcing it not to cut military spending....

and having to have a strong military presence in Asia

all the while beating america economically... like

america did to the USSR....

unless an american would like to explain better... to me how you won your cold war with the Russians...

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US has underestimated China's military growth, study says

AFP Apr 6, 2012, 02.35AM IST

WASHINGTON: The United States has underestimated the growth of China's military as policymakers have taken public statements at face value or failed to understand Beijing's thinking, a study said today.

The report prepared for the US-China Economic and Security Review Commission said the United States had a mixed record on predicting the rising power's new weaponry, including largely missing the emergence of more advanced submarines.

As for the speed of military modernisation, the study found "identifiable cases of miscalculation" with China developing anti-ship ballistic missiles and stealth fighter-jets earlier than the United States expected.

US analysis could have improved if more experts read Chinese or even looked at open publications such as academic technical journals, it said.

"US observers should not take at face value statements from the Chinese government on military policy, as they could either be deceptive, or simply issued by agencies" such as the foreign ministry "that have no real say over military matters," it said.

The staff report was prepared for the commission, which was set up by Congress in 2000 to assess security implications from China, and does not represent the view of the body or of the US government.

http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2...
61 PERCENT OF THE DEBT

Atlanta, GA

#77 Apr 12, 2012
a naval war/engagement with the Philippines would make sense...

China has little invested in the Philippines...

Philippines has a weak military...

the war would be fought on the water away from civillians...

the reward rich resources

the blow back... loss of life and military equipment

the risk a world condemnation...

but I figure the war will be a quick one...

and all parties will be forced to the negotiating table with China holding the disputed Islands...

Since: Oct 11

Philippines

#79 Apr 12, 2012
China is slowly eating up the territories at the same time flexing it's muscle to see how far it can go.
The most prudent thing to do is for ASEAN to intervene because what China is doing to Philippines now will be done to other ASEAN countries in the future.
I am most ashamed to say but this stand off is a joke, it's like quad core processor against a calculator.
fairness

Minneapolis, MN

#80 Apr 12, 2012
At least the greedy chinese fishermen would get annihalated first that will teach the next intruders a lesson. They lose their life first what comes next doesn't matter just bravery and heroism on the part of the courageous weaker david against a billion chinky mammoth cesspool over populated chinese.

Since: Oct 11

Philippines

#81 Apr 12, 2012
We let ourselves become so weak, if China did not come to bully us others will.
Did Malaysia give a crap to our claim on Sabah?
We are currently at the bottom group of the pecking order in Asia, we can not just tell others to buzz of or please behave.
We have to wake up and realize what a mess our government have been leading us to, with our abundant resources we could have been a powerful nation and not depend on other nation to look after us.

“Fightingcock”

Since: Jan 12

Location hidden

#82 Apr 12, 2012
Now the propanganda clown has got in on it. Americans were idiots to stop selling oil to the Japanese for the atrocities in China before Pearl Harbor. Making Japan try taking on the whole Pacific. Screw it, lets have a war, world is polluted anyway. Instead of helping each other we'll just start shooting. Good I'm too old to worry about it, just my kids will have to deal with the nonsense. Thought I could growing old enjoying family things. Vietnam getting new goodies from Russia, be a lot of stuff going on. The propanganda clown thinks it will be easy, don't think so.

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