State budget cuts could hit USD 234

State budget cuts could hit USD 234

There are 102 comments on the Fort Scott Tribune story from Feb 9, 2011, titled State budget cuts could hit USD 234. In it, Fort Scott Tribune reports that:

Students Nathan Jackson, Cole Hall, Kinzye Whitehead, Abbi DeLoera, Hunter Potter and Dylan Pinkerton play games and look over some reading material during the after-school program at Winfield Scott Elementary School Tuesday.

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wow

United States

#1 Feb 9, 2011
Get rid of one cook and one custodian per building. Cut the board office to three people. Now roll on.
meme

Fort Scott, KS

#2 Feb 9, 2011
Why don't you run for the board? I'll bet all the decisions are just this easy. Your wisdom would be welcomed.
wow

United States

#3 Feb 9, 2011
You are correct. Being financially responsible is such brain surgery. I hope they make decisions that do not hurt kids, programs or teachers. That's all I'm saying. Do they really need all those lazy custodians sitting watching ballgames and 6 cooks to a kitchen?
I agree

Fort Scott, KS

#4 Feb 9, 2011
wow wrote:
You are correct. Being financially responsible is such brain surgery. I hope they make decisions that do not hurt kids, programs or teachers. That's all I'm saying. Do they really need all those lazy custodians sitting watching ballgames and 6 cooks to a kitchen?
I have to agree with you, I see a lot of laziness on the part of the custodians, especially at the Middle School. I think we could do with less!
well well well

Shawnee Mission, KS

#5 Feb 9, 2011
if some of you want to cut jobs think if in your place of employment if your job was cut judt b/c others thought people in say your dept was lazy one should spend a day with the cooks custodians etc before you say cut their jobs or may be let the kids do it for free for say a class credit or something
meme

Fort Scott, KS

#6 Feb 9, 2011
ummm---I was being sarcastic. If you're not on the inside and have actually done day to day observations of the people you're wanting to cut, I don't think you have right to make this snap judgement. I'm also saying that the people making these decisions undoubtedly agonize over the money decisions. I sure wouldn't want their job. It's so easy to criticize without enough information. If you really want to be the "decider", run for the board. I'll bet your viewpoint would change.
i bet

United States

#7 Feb 9, 2011
I bet meme is a board member. Janet is that you?
agree

United States

#8 Feb 9, 2011
5 janitors at the high school. Serous???
meme

Fort Scott, KS

#9 Feb 9, 2011
Nope, not at all. I'm just someone who knows a lot of people in the school system and who wouldn't want to be on the school board, so I don't criticize a job I'm glad others do.
well well well

Shawnee Mission, KS

#10 Feb 9, 2011
agree so why don't you march to the school board and volunteer to be the only janitor for the high school think about all the halls that have to mopped swept trash taken out repairs made and some work days and some nite but since you seem to be so great do it all yourself or why not post to where you work and let us pick at your job
tax payer

United States

#11 Feb 9, 2011
Brownback is the problem here. Direct your frustration there
meme loves drew

United States

#12 Feb 9, 2011
The only custodian? I am told there are 5 and two of them are worthless.
well well well

Shawnee Mission, KS

#13 Feb 9, 2011
well meme if they are worthless then you do their job or whoever is saying that
Good Lord

United States

#14 Feb 9, 2011
It's easy for someone that isn't involved to say the custodians are lazy or not necessary... They may not stay as busy as they could but don't we all slack off now and then. Kudos to the custodians. I couldn't (or wouldn't want to) do their job.
HereThereEverywh ere

Fort Scott, KS

#15 Feb 10, 2011
Making cuts at the bottom of the totem pole usually doesn't really work but that is where they usually look because the people at the top of the chain look out for those at the top (admin) with them. Do you really believe that the admin are constantly busy? They are just not as visible. And janitors, I would not want to do that job and through my life, which has been long, when I have seen them, they have slower times and busier times and their hourly pay suggests that to be more than fair in my opinion. And cooks, that is not an easy job for the money they make either. I do wonder why though if some admin, cooks and janitor positions could not be partially done by the students as a type of work experience because I have surely seen that done in other states.
old school

Wichita, KS

#16 Feb 10, 2011
I've heard from a teacher, fort scott has more teachers aides in the high school and middle school than most in the state. Is this true, and why is that? do teachers really need help these days? there was only one teacher in the room when I was in school and we got by just fine.
Fact

United States

#17 Feb 10, 2011
There are 6 custodians in the high school alone. There are no less than 6 custodians in that district that make in excess of $42,000 a year. Wish I had that job.
Margaret

Fort Scott, KS

#19 Feb 10, 2011
I would like to comment on the janitors at the Middle School also. I do not know who they are, but every time I go to that school it always seems/appears to me to be dirty. I have heard many others say the same thing, so I know it is not me. I have sat at the tables in the commons area and always feel the need to wash my hands and arms, it just seems dirty all the time. Is Staph or MRSA an issue there?
The Hard Truth

Fort Scott, KS

#20 Feb 10, 2011
tax payer wrote:
Brownback is the problem here. Direct your frustration there
No, the mentality in schools that they need more and more money and that they cannot possibly do the same (or more) with less is the problem.
The false characterization that our schools do a great job is the problem.
The naive notion that all teachers are extraordinarily hard workers is the problem. Teachers work 2/3 of the year and 3/4 of a work day.
If teachers were doing a great job then praise would be justified. The same applies to the schools. They are held in esteem, but for what? The stunning accomplishment of getting less than 75% of the kids up to the bare minimum of math skills? Well, good on you school district. Pathetic.
Public schools are failing nationwide. The education system is not creating strong thinkers, but rather it is, for the most part, creating uneducated zombies who are incapable of critical thinking and independent thought.
The only ground to be given is that the teachers and administrators do have to put up with a lot from some parents and students, but that's really it.
So many put schools on pedestals, but they are not worthy of the vaunted position into which they are put. The results simply do not bear this out.
Families, churches, businesses and a whole host of other enterprises do more with less everyday. USD 234 is shaking in its boots over a possible reduction of less than $100 per kid per year. That's less than $1 per kid per school day. Get serious.
Public education, as it exists in most places today, is a failed enterprise. The primary difference from school to school, district to district to district, and state to state is nothing more than the degree of this failure.
To the hard truth

United States

#21 Feb 10, 2011
Check out standards of excellents at FS schools. Quit throwing out inaccurate in competent statistis which havem no burden of proof. Fact is teachers and administrators put more hours in 6 months than the average layman does in twelve. Youth today graduate from high school with more technology skills not to mention academic competencies than in the history of educational system per capital. Fort Scott faces a $600,000 pay cut next year alone and that is truly and solely on Mr. BROWNBACK'S EDUCATION CUTS.

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