Salazar: Wind power can replace 3,000 coal plants

[GetRidofRitter]

Jersey Gal wrote:

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Europe has been using windmills with GREAT success for years in some of the worst seas on earth. guess they do not know what they are doing??

You can't compare Europe and the USA. The infrastructure is smaller in Europe/ Jersey Girl needs to look at a map.

[the doctor]

good point jersey, Europe has 3 times the amount of installed windpower as the US ( germany is about equivalent to the US), yet its still only 4% of their total energy needs ( hardly a great success, perhaps you would follow their lead and go nuclear for the rest). they power down during storms and high winds so they dont break though that drops their efficiency down alot.

[Not in my backyard]

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_op...

http://www.capewind.org/news652.htm

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""We certainly need energy conservation, we need alternative sources of power, but we don't want it where they want to put it," said Emrich, 62, who works at a jewelry shop in the coastal town of Barnstable, whose waterfront district of Hyannis would be looking out on the installation. "Where should they put it? Somewhere out of sight. We just would hate to see these things out there." "....

[Teddy Kennedy]

Not in my backyard wrote:

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_op...
http://www.capewind.org/news652.htm
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""We certainly need energy conservation, we need alternative sources of power, but we don't want it where they want to put it," said Emrich, 62, who works at a jewelry shop in the coastal town of Barnstable, whose waterfront district of Hyannis would be looking out on the installation. "Where should they put it? Somewhere out of sight. We just would hate to see these things out there." "....

I don't remember the details, but didn't Teddy get turbines off the coast of Hyannis killed? Maybe somebody remembers.

[the doctor]

since the most suitable areas off the east coast have been overfished, they have turned to tourism to stay alive. putting wind turbines off their coast will pretty much kill whatever "old world charm" or "historic locale" attracts tourists. yeah, teddy has been working against it quietly. I hear he prefers putting them in among the oil platforms in the Gulf of Mexico so they rip up the oil pipelines when the hurricane season comes in.

[libs are scared]

GetRidofRitter wrote:

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You can't compare Europe and the USA. The infrastructure is smaller in Europe/ Jersey Girl needs to look at a map.

No kidding! Their air conditioning sucks and you can't get a cold drink to save your butt. Ice? I think the inventor died and forgot to leave them the recipie! Lots of ice? Thats 2 cubes!

You furry, smelly hippie folk can move to europe!

[Haddit]

The birds, what about killing all the birds with those windmills?

[Haddit]

special wrote:

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Human Farts are by far better then anything to run our country! With an endless supply of farts coming from all ages and demographics, the Methane gas produced if harnessed properly, could engine our country back into the greatness it once held!
Please encourage everyone not to fart until we have the technology to harness it!

That is a great idea, we can wear plastic pants and fart all day long. We can have farting contests with our co-workers. When our plastic pants get inflated and we cant sit in our chairs, there would be a valve stem in our pants and we would just fill up used propane tanks.

[Glasnos]

This is just pie in the sky BS from the liberals. We are no where near being able to replace even 10% of fossil fuel with solar and wind.
The government knows they have to give you the promise of hope, or you wouldn't stand for the heavy taxation they have lined up for fossil fuels, and which you all we pay very heavily for.
DO NOT believe the propoganda Obama is putting out about low income people not paying more. It will hit you the hardest, as the cost of EVERYTHING will go up substantially as a result of taxing the only viable energy source we have.
The makers of your ding dongs will pay more for ingredients, more to power their plants, more to ship them to your neighborhood store, and the store will pay higher power costs ... and a supermarket's power costs are quite large already.

[luckyinnc]

The governments strategy is to raise the price of traditional generation, coal, nuclear, nat'l gas, so that renewables will then be competitive with them. The price of renewable energy and its un-reliability is a major hurdle. Cap and trade will bring the costs closer together, thus making renewables appear to be a viable alternative. In the meantime, our utility rates will increase dramatically, the cost of everything we purchase will go up, U.S. companies will be forced to move off-shore in order to remain competitive, unemployment will increase, taxes will increase due to the increase in unemployment, etc, etc, etc. All in the name of climate change, which the cap and trade legislation will have no measureable impact on.

[Glasnos]

luckyinnc wrote:

The governments strategy is to raise the price of traditional generation, coal, nuclear, nat'l gas, so that renewables will then be competitive with them. The price of renewable energy and its un-reliability is a major hurdle. Cap and trade will bring the costs closer together, thus making renewables appear to be a viable alternative. In the meantime, our utility rates will increase dramatically, the cost of everything we purchase will go up, U.S. companies will be forced to move off-shore in order to remain competitive, unemployment will increase, taxes will increase due to the increase in unemployment, etc, etc, etc. All in the name of climate change, which the cap and trade legislation will have no measureable impact on.

The lie is the "green alternatives" are not viable ... and may not be for 20 years or more.
They are going to try and tax fossil fuels now! And there is no alternative. The chances of Obama Pelosi and Reid levying heavy taxes on energy without giving you some cocknbull story are pretty slim ... so they dangle the "green carrot" of false hope.

[Fabian]

Glasnos wrote:

This is just pie in the sky BS from the liberals. We are no where near being able to replace even 10% of fossil fuel with solar and wind.
The government knows they have to give you the promise of hope, or you wouldn't stand for the heavy taxation they have lined up for fossil fuels, and which you all we pay very heavily for.
DO NOT believe the propoganda Obama is putting out about low income people not paying more. It will hit you the hardest, as the cost of EVERYTHING will go up substantially as a result of taxing the only viable energy source we have.
The makers of your ding dongs will pay more for ingredients, more to power their plants, more to ship them to your neighborhood store, and the store will pay higher power costs ... and a supermarket's power costs are quite large already.

Don't worry, Obama and the Democrats have promised they will NOT increase taxes on anyone making under $200,000.00 a year and every one knows politicians don't lie and always keep their promises. I just wonder when they're going to get around to raising the minimum wage to $97.00 an hour so we all make over $200,000.00 a year. That's the only way they're going to keep that promise.

[Not in my backyard]

Fabian wrote:

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Don't worry, Obama and the Democrats have promised they will NOT increase taxes on anyone making under $200,000.00 a year and every one knows politicians don't lie and always keep their promises. I just wonder when they're going to get around to raising the minimum wage to $97.00 an hour so we all make over $200,000.00 a year. That's the only way they're going to keep that promise.

In Calif this is NOT the case... Our CA dumb-o-cratic lawmakers want to raise taxes again to pay off their union buddies. Keep in mind that they just raised our taxes at the end of last year. Increased car registration fees, increased State income tax, increased gas tax and increased sales tax...

Unions = LESS bang for the buck ...

How's that "hope and change" workin out for ya ?????

[PAcoal]

Wayne wrote:

I'm here in coal country,,West Virginia. My dad and brothers were coal miners,,By the time I graduated the coal mines were down and I had to go to NC for work, but am now back in West Virginia. My question is this,,Why does Appalachian Power want to raise their rates 43%? Because the greedy coal operators are soaking THEM for unheard of coal prices,,It was going for almost $400.00 a ton,,AMAZING!! And since Appalachian Power is NOT going to cut into THEIR profits,, they are going to pass it on to their customers. So,, I don't know if coal power is going to continue to be the "cheap" power.

Absolutely NO ONE is getting $400.00 a ton for coal anywhere in the US. Morons like you is what gives the coal industry a bad name.

[Oh bummer]

fred wrote:

Just don't put any of them in the desert in California though. Gotta save the turtles, rabbits and bugs anyway.

Ted Kennedy didn't want any of them near his place in cape cod ...

Research cape winds project....

[Good old Rebel]

So why does Mr Taco Bell Salazar want to knock more Appalachian coal miners out of work? I think these people are plain assholes who are doing their best to destroy this country and we are allowing them to do it. This government sucks big time and are destroying this land in the name of what? Internationalism?