N.Y. subway cars find new life on ocean floor

After four decades carrying millions of New Yorkers, 44 of the city's subway cars are now home to millions of fish.

[Pollution Sux]

Just what we need. All the lubricants from the axels fouling the ocean floor, and poisoning the fish. You think they could melt them down and re-use these things instead of throwing MORE trash into the ocean. I don't care what lame excuse they give. Pollution is pollution.(Maybe they can buy some green "credits" from Al Gore.)

[Richard B Ingraham]

Pollution Sux wrote:

Just what we need. All the lubricants from the axels fouling the ocean floor, and poisoning the fish. You think they could melt them down and re-use these things instead of throwing MORE trash into the ocean. I don't care what lame excuse they give. Pollution is pollution.(Maybe they can buy some green "credits" from Al Gore.)

Well the article said any harmful stuff was removed, so either they are lying or they did the best they humanlly could to make it enviromentally friendly. Go read the full article before making predetermined judgemnets...

[skynr]

I think the best idea with concern for the green environment would be to sell the subway cars to George Bush to give to the poor people to live in and use the money to make safer green homes for the fish to live in. Kill two fish with one stone you might say!

[Pill]

Sounds like they are a bit optimistic about the number of fish that can inhabit 40 street cars. Millions of fish?--dream on. Big fish eat smaller fish and small fish eat smaller criters and algia. It takes several years for the ocean critters to build a home, sometimes longer. In some areas, groups are sinking large ships to make reefs and for diving destinations. The erosion of the reef materials will polute the oceans some but there have been many thousands of ships that have sunk without being specially cleaned and don't seem to make any noticable difference.

[hetrevillion]

I am all in favor of artificial reefs as long as the materials are non-polluting. Subway cars are as good a material for reefs as anything else I have heard being used for that purpose.

[JG OP]

Yes, why just last saturday while diving in NY we saw a fully scuba geared Abe Vigoda sitting perfectly upright in a sunken car reading the New York Times.

[formally abducted]

the harmful stuff that was removed was the muggers and thieves,to bad it went down without them.

[Once-ler]

JG OP wrote:

Yes, why just last saturday while diving in NY we saw a fully scuba geared Abe Vigoda sitting perfectly upright in a sunken car reading the New York Times.

Haha, is he still alive? I haven't seen that show in decades!

[fisherman just for fun]

hasanyone tried to go fishing. with out these reefs no one could catch any fish. the BIG TRAWLERS GET MOST OF THE FISH . THEY CANT GET OVER THE REEFS WITH NETS. SO ..............

[Kosam]

Subway cars? A person goes to jail or is fined for pollution or polluting, but, it's OK for science to do it, they need something else to study.

[rrr]

The impact of these cars on the ocean bottom is far less than the impact on the saltwater fish population. These cars will become breading grounds for many smaller fish. Cars, trucks, ships, concreat atrificial reafs have been sunk all up and down the coast from Fl. to Maine and there impact on the helping fish populations is great. It also helps the Sport fishing also these reafs are on charts and can be legialy fished over during the season and produce many and abundent kinds of fish. They drive the economic fishing industry of NY also and that Sport Fishing industry in NY Harbor is a Billion dollor bussiness a year.

[rrr]

When a big ship is sunk as a artificial reef and many are. The Gov. and State monaters with divers and electronics for up to 2 years to make sure that there is no contamination to the local fishing waters. Ocean Watch is a program that monaters the waters also and they do a good job at it. They take there jobs seriously and if there is any problems they are reported. Like the one poster says all contaminated stuff is remover in dry dock and checked over very well before they sink and NY cars, or Ships. Over the years i have fished, and skin dived wrecks and the adbundent of sea HEALTHY life is remarkable on these art. reefs. If it wasn,t for all these thousands of art. reefs smaller fish would have no place to hide from the preditor fish world and would not grow larger to populate the area waters, and the oceans would be cleaned out of smaller fish and in hence larger fish would have no feed, in hence no large fish populations. This has curbed overfishing also nets can,t be draged over wrecks as easy as the bottom distroys them and they cost thousands of dollors to replace, so not worth it to commericial fisherman. SAVE the OCEANS its the only one we GOT and WILL ever HAVE.

[JG OP]

Once-ler wrote:

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Haha, is he still alive? I haven't seen that show in decades!

Abe is still alive and WORKING, as amatter of fact he has been the stand in model for the current renovations at MT. Rushmore. AND..........is in talks with CBS about a new series about an older , extemely drunken detective called "Polluted Fish"