Smart Appliances Are Energy Conscious

Smart Appliances Are Energy Conscious

There are 7 comments on the www.sciencentral.com story from Oct 17, 2008, titled Smart Appliances Are Energy Conscious. In it, www.sciencentral.com reports that:

Smart appliances are coming to a house or apartment near you. As you'll see in ScienCentral video, researchers are getting appliances to work together to reduce electrical demand and avoid blackouts.

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Since: Mar 08

Lexington, KY

#1 Oct 18, 2008
Stuff like this conserves energy but it also drives up energy prices.

The more you cut back and the more efficient appliances are the more the electrical produces drive up their rates.

If we really do go green the electric bill on a two bed room house will be $50,000 a month since it uses so little juice.

Since: Oct 08

Brooklyn, NY

#2 Oct 21, 2008
That's a good point. we'll have to get re-wired somehow or go completely green with solar panels or something.

Since: Mar 08

Lexington, KY

#3 Oct 21, 2008
Heather Mazzenga wrote:
That's a good point. we'll have to get re-wired somehow or go completely green with solar panels or something.
Have you ever stopped to take a look at at well low voltage outdoor lighting that plugs into a standard wall socket (except outdoors the socket has covers on the plugs 12 or 24 volts, lights up the front yard or the side of the house or anywhere you point the light?

Hint, hint, it does the same thing INSIDE the house.

Even better actually because the light is confined thus bounces around everywhere instead of just disappearing in a straight line outdoors.

And ever notice those low voltage emergency lights located many public buildings?

They kick on when the power goes off flooding the hallways and stairways with light.

Hint, hint, it does the same thing in a residential home if provided with the same amps and same voltage from a house current adapter instead of a NiCad emergency battery.

Since: Mar 08

Lexington, KY

#4 Oct 21, 2008
Now think for a moment about, of all possible things, what has ever prevented these types of lights from being mass promoted for normal everyday indoor use?

Even so far as to having the breaker box for these things right beside the adapter/breaker box of regular house current then with the wires running through the structure to wall switches and light fixtures?

The electrical producers industry lobbyists?

Architects are silent on this but THEY have the answer, or it would be in mass demand and they would be spitting out the floor plans with this stuff in it.

I have the same opinion of solar panels for electricity to run the hot water heater.

It is a proven technology, was proven back in the 70's, you pay for it 1 time but why in so many thousands of cities and suburbs all around the US solar panels are illegal?

The electrical producers industry lobbyists?

MUNICIPAL POWER COMPANIES?

Get the minutes of that city meeting (public record, price of a copy) and the meetings leading up to that decision that clearly reveal the reason of making solar panels illegal.

Since: Mar 08

Lexington, KY

#5 Oct 21, 2008
If the laws were passed summarily without any visible or viable reason to justify making it illegal then that is one of the easiest things to repeal or overturn.

It forces them to provide reasons and forces them to justify why city hall made it illegal.

They can do it again yeah but only AFTER listing reasons and justifications for making it illegal and AFTER it is repealed of which reasons are all open to public debate at the meetings at city hall.

Since: Mar 08

Lexington, KY

#6 Oct 21, 2008
Most people think that in many other countries that electrical producing plants are owned by the government because of some adverse form of government compared to ours.

No necessarily so. The state own it because the people do not have the money source to support that electrical plant if that plant as operated like ours to the tune of endless billions of dollars in revenue and profit, perks, bonuses, stock options, you name it every reason to rip the money.

I think that in the interest of the American people, electrical producing entities should become state owned. I even said that as a child that who knew little of the world (very poor too) that we would have more money to spend on goods and services if the taxpayers owned the plant/lines/maintenance and run it at cost in the name of the people instead of endless billions of dollars a year in revenue and profit and run by people who already have millions and billions in the bank.

We can live without these CEO's and executives running the show and we can live without electricity being a commodity on the stock market.

But noooooo because then suddenly, for doing something in the interests of the people at large, we are Communists or Socialists or whatever -ists when that is not true as it would apply to electrical production.

Our system is eating itself alive and is going to cave in soon, as time passes people have less and less money so they cut back, the greedy raise prices because they say they are "losing" money (can't lose what you never had in the first place because the money never left the peoples pockets), raise cutback, raise cutback.

Soon the producers go bust and must shut down eventually starting first with rotating blackouts.

It would be best to nationalize them before they go bankrupt that way there is funding for transition.

Kick the bums out, it's corporate welfare to have these people running the energy industry, we don't need them, can function normally without them, they are excess baggage.

Just imagine the endless billions then pumped into the economy for goods and services and entertainment by somewhere around 300 million electrical slaves, ooops I mean customers.

Since: Mar 08

Lexington, KY

#7 Oct 21, 2008
Just imagine the endless billions then pumped into the economy for goods and services and entertainment by somewhere around 300 million electrical slaves, ooops I mean customers.

Currently this money goes to a hand full of CEO's and executives and is then banked as personal wealth.

Consider that same amount of money in the hands of the people that will not only be banked in small amounts (we need to recuperate) but be spread to every other imaginable source in our country.

Prosperity would go off the scale for a short time and after reacquiring what we have financially, as far as personal finances go, lost since Bush got into office then we could get back to normal.

It's a valid method of redistributing a bit of wealth to every household in America and if run at cost it stays that way permanantly.

Imagine your power bill 1/3 what it is.

We would be in an economic boom as we have never seenand not only would the people have more money look at all the goods and service providers that will be rolling in the dough.

Don't shed a tear for those CEO's and their executives, they will move on, they don't need the money, they have millions and billions in the bank.

When it comes to energy we have the most parasitic system on earth.

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