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Coerced Conscription of Tamil Women by Sri Lankan Security Forces - Sexual Abuse reported: TGTE

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The Transnational Government of Tamil Eelam condemned the coerced conscription of over 140 young Tamil women by the Sri Lankan Security forces.

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Siva Sankaran Sarma

Macleod, Australia

#1 Dec 27, 2012
Sinhalese dogs aided and abetted by India
Punc

Ottawa, Canada

#2 Dec 27, 2012
But Siva, thalivar Conscription these tamule b!tches to explode their arshoole, and you never said a word about that. why is that? is it because you like thalivar coca? ponnaya

“Hindu God- Dhanwantri”

Since: Mar 11

Location hidden

#5 Dec 27, 2012
Siva Sankaran Sarma wrote:
Sinhalese dogs aided and abetted by India
Tamils are pathological liars.

BBC News exposes Tamil lies again

Doctor categorically clears allegations of abuse on Army Tamil woman recruits
The following is an interview in Tamil done by BBC's Tamil service correspondent Seevakan with Dr. Sivasubramaniyam Sivadas, the doctor who treated the 15 Army Tamil woman recruits who were admitted to the Killinochchi hospital recently.

The doctor who treated the 15 Tamil army woman recruits who were admitted to Kilinochchi hospital after falling sick says 'none of them are sexually abused'

He said that he had began treating them only after authorities consented to his conditions to act according to his advice regarding the psychologically affected girls and that he should have liberty to speak personally with them.

Mr. Seevakan from the BBC contacted Dr Sivasubramaniyam Sivadas who treated these women and inquired into their present condition.

Dr Sivadas: There are 15 of them. Out of that 02 are admitted to the wards. The remaining 13 are kept in a room in the upper floor in order to be consulted by me. Many people requested me to see them. I clearly informed them about two matters. I will see them if only you accept my decision after I diagnose them. The other one is that I wanted to meet the patients personally.

After that one medical officer from the Army arrived. He contacted higher authorities and said 'that they are ready to accept my recommendations'. After that only I met all 15 girls personally.

BBC Seevakan: What type of illness did they have? How did they look ?

Dr Sivadas: They are like, what we call in our villages 'goddess dance'(possessed by god). They are also faced with the similar issue. One week back about 108 .. or 103 girls were recruited to the army. They are between 18 -25 years old. Out of them one girl a week ago had told another girl that while she was going to a distance place in the camp she felt that some shadow or someone was coming with her

The other girl has said that a lot of people had died in that area and that she might have been possessed by a lost soul. Only divine power will cure it. Otherwise nothing can be done, she has said'. The girl got frightened and fainted.

The other girl took to pose like a goddess and started to dance.

BBC Seevakan: That all fifteen had this type of illness or only these two?

Dr Sivadas: No no. It started from this two and slowly spread to all 15 in that camp.

Some are not making a big dance but some think that it is true. It can happen to them too like that stated to scared.

Few of them began to do 'cobra dance'

These phenomena can be commonly observed in Wanni. In my three and a half years of experience I have seen this type of collective hysteria...at least ten times I seen this collective hysteria.

One was among the child soldiers at Poonthodam camp. When 50 women were recruited to the garment factory 04 of them started dancing like snakes.

So for me it was not a big issue.

BBC Seevakan: Medically what you are guessing as the reason for this?

Dr. Sivadas: There are two minds, a deep and superficial one. 10 percent of our matters are decided in the superficial mind the rest 90 percent is decided in the deep mind.

In the deep mind ...if inner conflict arise ...means something unsolvable or matters which are complicated ...disturbs the deep mind... in many occasions they will express (it) in ways like this.

Commonly Tamil people call it as 'Kaali had arrived'(Being possessed by god Kali) and Singhalese people say 'Patthini dheyyo arrived.'(Possessed by god Patthini)

“Hindu God- Dhanwantri”

Since: Mar 11

Location hidden

#6 Dec 27, 2012
BBC Seevakan: For this mental state to happen to them, what was the reason you detected? While you talked to them were you able to uncover anything?

Dr Sivadas: All of them, for the majority this is the (only) job which give Rs.30,000 monthly salary, is an attractive job. They themselves willfully enrolled. Not like what is being said outside that they were forcefully recruited. While I freely talk to them I observed that they willfully joined.

Because they said 'we don't have a monthly income we drink only Kanjee (Porridge). That much of poverty is in Wanni. For us this job is a great gift,... because of that they went.

But after they joined they got inner conflict (in their mind)..this contradicted their culture ..The life they lived in the last thirty years ...(They thought) I have to go because of the salary ..for income I have to do this...but my culture ..we as Tamils is this a right choice..

BBC Seevakan: But (you are telling) this is due to the inner conflict of mind...Possibility of any type of abuse committed to them after they joined the army .. May it be the reason?

Dr. Sivadas: I have completely seen all fifteen of them. The rest of 103 I went and saw in three camps that night. Nothing of this sort had happened to them.

Further while they did 'divine dance' not even a single army soldier or woman soldier had assault them.

Sometimes if they had assaulted these girls they might not continue in the army. But without assaulting them they brought them there (to the hospital) and (got them) admitted.

One thing they (girls) pleaded and begged me saying,'Sir please safeguards us from the allegation of sexual abuse, Please salvage us from this dirt, Daily, we listen to the news and got to know (about this allegation). Please inform to the world that nothing (happened) like that. Please tell the world that we are not having any serious mental illness. No sexual abuses were committed to us.'

In my point of view, I personally worked in Wanni for the last three and a half years. I've worked with many ex -combatants. I will say this is not a sexual abuse. Rather than that this is 'media abuse' or 'political abuse'

BBC Seevakan: All right. What type of treatment are you giving them?

Dr Sivadas: We usually explain to them that this type of incident happened because of problems in their mind and not because of a god or devil possessing and doing it.

BBC Seevakan: So now you are saying that their situation is settled down?

Dr Sivadas: Well settled. I promise to meet them after one week...I am not going to be the person who assists them to join in the army. Because basically as a person who believes on Tamil nationalism my opinion is 'government should not do these types of work (recruitment) this much sooner'

But I have a necessity to proof as a medical officer working in Wanni or as a specialist that they (girls) are not affected. They don't have any mental disorders. They are not sexually abused.

“Hindu God- Dhanwantri”

Since: Mar 11

Location hidden

#7 Dec 27, 2012
Tamils are always lying

Parents' day of the Tamil Army recruits in Kilinochchi
The Parents' Day of the Tamil females who joined the Army on 17th Nov 2012 as the recruits of Sri Lanka Army (SLA) Women's Corps was held at Security Forces Headquarters in Killinochchi on 23rd December 2012.

Security forces commander Killinochchi graced the occasion as the chief guest while the high ranking officials of the (SLA) also took part in the event.

The recruits have completed one month of training and now utilized to the military life. Expressing their experiences during the course they mentioned in unison that they enjoy the training which will lay the foundation for their career in the Army Women's Corps.

The young recruits also received the bank pass books with their first salary during the occasion. Parents of all recruits attended the ceremony and they were happy with their children's tremendous progress.

“Hindu God- Dhanwantri”

Since: Mar 11

Location hidden

#8 Dec 27, 2012
Tamil diaspora is the cesspool of slimy lies

Time out from Training
By Camelia Nathaniel

The first group of Tamil girls recruited by the Army were taken on a two day excursion to Trincomalle on 13 and 14 of December. Contrary to numerous views expressed alleging that these girls were being recruited by force by the army and that they were very unhappy, the girls were seen enjoying themselves and having fun during their trip. The group of 96 girls of the 103 recruits visited the Frederic Fort beach, the Koneswaran Temple, the Kinniya bridge, the Nilaweli beach, the hot water springs and the Green Ocean ship during their tour. Three of the recruits were unable to join the others on the excursion as they were sitting for their O/L examinations, while four others were ill.

Ever since their recruitment to the army there have been numerous allegations that the girls were recruited forcibly, and were deeply depressed and their parents worried about the plight of their children's future.

The Sri Lanka Army Women's Corps (6 SLAWC) enlisted the first-everbatch of 109 Tamil girls from Kilinochchi to the Sri Lanka Army Volunteer Force during a landmark ceremony at its headquarters at Bharathipuram, Kilinochchi on 17 November.

The 109 female recruits commenced their initial period of training thereafter at Kilinochchi itself at the Advanced Infantry Training School subsequent to enlistment to the 6 SLAWC of the Volunteer Force, managed by the 57 Division Headquarters.

According to the army upon completion of their initial period of training, these woman soldiers are to be deployed in the Kilinochchi area to assist in civil-military coordination work and other related administrative matters.

However due to various reasons and incidents that followed, of the initial 109 recruits six of them opted to leave the army, while the rest of them have continued their training program.

There have also been allegations by a Tamil political party that the Army did not allow parents to see their children who were undergoing their training at the Advanced Infantry Training School in Killinochchi on 09 December.

Responding to these allegations the Military Spokesman Brigadier Ruwan Wanigasooriya said that during training anywhere in the Military the trainees are allowed to have visitors only at a specified time, once a week, without disturbing the training program. "If we allow visitors to come everyday and at any time, we will not be able to conduct any meaningful and disciplined training program. In this case the specified time for visitors is between 8 a.m. to 1 p.m. on Sunday. Similarly on Sunday, 9 Dec many visitors of trainees came during the specified time and they were given free time without any interference," he said.

The spokesman further added that however this is not a special condition only applicable to these trainees. "The Army treats all trainees equally and this rule of having visitors only one day during a specified time period is common to all those who are undergoing basic training in the military and it is part of the process of transformation of a civilian into a military professional," he noted.

It is also noted that the LLRC in their report had made observations that only few Tamils are serving in the Army and hence the Tamils perceive the Army as a Sinhalese Army. They also made recommendations to absorb ex LTTE cadres if that would be feasible. Brigadier Wanigasooriya added that the Army was among the first State agencies which had taken note of the LLRC Report and in order to implement the LLRC recommendations, the army had decided to recruit Tamils, both male and female, from the North to the Army.

In spite of the many allegations and speculation that these Tamil female recruits are unhappy and unwilling to wear the military uniform and be part of the army, they seemed to be quite relaxed and in good spirits during their outing to Trincomalee last weekend.

“Hindu God- Dhanwantri”

Since: Mar 11

Location hidden

#9 Dec 27, 2012
Speaking to Ceylon Today during their excursion the girls said that they had no issues with their training and they were really enjoying their time at the camp and especially during their excursion.

Nirmala Devi who is one of the new recruits said "This trip is very good and we thoroughly enjoyed ourselves. We were all able to see many places of interest that we otherwise would not have had the privilege of seeing and had not even dreamed of seeing in the past. We visited a ship and that was a novel experience for us. We also visited the Devalaya and temple and had a grand time at the beach with all the other girls and our senior officers who accompanied us on this excursion," she said.

Commenting on the numerous speculations and allegations that these girls are not treated properly and about them being unhappy in the army, she said "That is totally not true, and we are really happy here. There have been many rumours spread about us being unhappy and some of the parents got worried, and some of the girls had to leave due to this. However I must say that all that is totally false and we are certainly not unhappy as you can obviously see," she added.

Devi also said that the stories spread about them being unhappy is totally fabricated for various reasons. "These are baseless speculations, which are all false, and we are all very happy and having a good time," she said.

Another recruit Sathyanathan Cristilla Told Ceylon Today that its been around a month since they began their training in the army and contrary to speculations they had all joined voluntarily. "After our training period is over we will be assigned civil duties in our respective areas. We are all aware that we have to undergo the initial training period and after that we will be assigned to the clerical and civil duties in our respective areas. We are enjoying our break and this excursion, and it is a great privilege to be able to see these parts of our country without any fear," she said.
Thor-Indra-Zeus

Piliyandala, Sri Lanka

#10 Dec 27, 2012
naIan wrote:
Speaking to Ceylon Today during their excursion the girls said that they had no issues with their training and they were really enjoying their time at the camp and especially during their excursion.
Nirmala Devi who is one of the new recruits said "This trip is very good and we thoroughly enjoyed ourselves. We were all able to see many places of interest that we otherwise would not have had the privilege of seeing and had not even dreamed of seeing in the past. We visited a ship and that was a novel experience for us. We also visited the Devalaya and temple and had a grand time at the beach with all the other girls and our senior officers who accompanied us on this excursion," she said.
Commenting on the numerous speculations and allegations that these girls are not treated properly and about them being unhappy in the army, she said "That is totally not true, and we are really happy here. There have been many rumours spread about us being unhappy and some of the parents got worried, and some of the girls had to leave due to this. However I must say that all that is totally false and we are certainly not unhappy as you can obviously see," she added.
Devi also said that the stories spread about them being unhappy is totally fabricated for various reasons. "These are baseless speculations, which are all false, and we are all very happy and having a good time," she said.
Another recruit Sathyanathan Cristilla Told Ceylon Today that its been around a month since they began their training in the army and contrary to speculations they had all joined voluntarily. "After our training period is over we will be assigned civil duties in our respective areas. We are all aware that we have to undergo the initial training period and after that we will be assigned to the clerical and civil duties in our respective areas. We are enjoying our break and this excursion, and it is a great privilege to be able to see these parts of our country without any fear," she said.
the meenachchies were hired to do work for the army. it is only the pro LTTE websites that are claiming that they have been raped or hospitalized. A few days ago the dravidian girls must have collected their bonus from the army payroll. they will be able to drench themselves head to foot in gingelly oil, buy their fathers a brand new set of meat hooks to hang on, and a new collar for their sister in law (ie like mrs selvaratnam the dog).
Soulja

Richmond Hill, Canada

#11 Dec 28, 2012
Thor-Indra-Zeus wrote:
<quoted text>
the meenachchies were hired to do work for the army. it is only the pro LTTE websites that are claiming that they have been raped or hospitalized. A few days ago the dravidian girls must have collected their bonus from the army payroll. they will be able to drench themselves head to foot in gingelly oil, buy their fathers a brand new set of meat hooks to hang on, and a new collar for their sister in law (ie like mrs selvaratnam the dog).
You were called a dog at the beginning of this thread. This is in line with what your monks have been saying from 3rd century AD. You have many otheroptions from the list to choose: Dogs, terrorists, savages, criminals, rapists, Modayas, Ponzis....
Punc

Orleans, Canada

#12 Dec 28, 2012
Soulja wrote:
<quoted text>You were called a dog at the beginning of this thread. This is in line with what your monks have been saying from 3rd century AD. You have many otheroptions from the list to choose: Dogs, terrorists, savages, criminals, rapists, Modayas, Ponzis....
in your case, the list consists of one entry only "killer demala pakaya"

Nandri.
Thor-Indra-Zeus

Piliyandala, Sri Lanka

#13 Dec 30, 2012
Soulja wrote:
<quoted text>You were called a dog at the beginning of this thread. This is in line with what your monks have been saying from 3rd century AD. You have many otheroptions from the list to choose: Dogs, terrorists, savages, criminals, rapists, Modayas, Ponzis....
salilliya and tamil christian religious nut,
The only dogs mentioned in this forum are Mrs Selvaratnam the madrassi female pariah dog who married the loser Selvaratnam who hade killed 2 dogs earlier and had been instructed by a hindu temple priest to marry the canine.
the other were the dead dogs buried with the remains of VP's mother by tamils whose families were murdered by the LTTE. this was for her to be reincanated as a part human part dog entity in her next life.
Personally I like dogs,as i have 2 german shepherds.
now let me start the New year by singing the song of the black tigers:

jam de demel diger
jam de bridom bider
yalbandan nalbandan
jam de zuizide bomber

Jam de blagg diger
Jam nod garing by libe
jam nod garing jyudders libes
yalbandan nalbandan
Jam de zuizide bomber
Punc

Ottawa, Canada

#14 Dec 31, 2012
yalbadan nalbadan.
Siva Sankaran Sarma

Macleod, Australia

#15 Dec 31, 2012
naIan wrote:
Speaking to Ceylon Today during their excursion the girls said that they had no issues with their training and they were really enjoying their time at the camp and especially during their excursion.
Nirmala Devi who is one of the new recruits said "This trip is very good and we thoroughly enjoyed ourselves. We were all able to see many places of interest that we otherwise would not have had the privilege of seeing and had not even dreamed of seeing in the past. We visited a ship and that was a novel experience for us. We also visited the Devalaya and temple and had a grand time at the beach with all the other girls and our senior officers who accompanied us on this excursion," she said.
Commenting on the numerous speculations and allegations that these girls are not treated properly and about them being unhappy in the army, she said "That is totally not true, and we are really happy here. There have been many rumours spread about us being unhappy and some of the parents got worried, and some of the girls had to leave due to this. However I must say that all that is totally false and we are certainly not unhappy as you can obviously see," she added.
Devi also said that the stories spread about them being unhappy is totally fabricated for various reasons. "These are baseless speculations, which are all false, and we are all very happy and having a good time," she said.
Another recruit Sathyanathan Cristilla Told Ceylon Today that its been around a month since they began their training in the army and contrary to speculations they had all joined voluntarily. "After our training period is over we will be assigned civil duties in our respective areas. We are all aware that we have to undergo the initial training period and after that we will be assigned to the clerical and civil duties in our respective areas. We are enjoying our break and this excursion, and it is a great privilege to be able to see these parts of our country without any fear," she said.
Read this lying Sinhalese animal
http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/tamil/sri_lanka/2012/12/...
The real truth is coming out. They threatening doctors to lie, if they do not they are being arrsted . Bloody third rate genocidal black Veddah Nazi dogs.
Punc

Orleans, Canada

#16 Jan 2, 2013
Siva Sankaran Sarma wrote:
<quoted text>Read this lying Sinhalese animal
http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/tamil/sri_lanka/2012/12/...
The real truth is coming out. They threatening doctors to lie, if they do not they are being arrsted . Bloody third rate genocidal black Veddah Nazi dogs.
Para demala, I opened the BBC link, my screen looked like a chiken came and scratched it. LOL
Despicable Me

UK

#17 Jan 2, 2013
Siva Sankaran Sarma wrote:
<quoted text>Read this lying Sinhalese animal
http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/tamil/sri_lanka/2012/12/...
The real truth is coming out. They threatening doctors to lie, if they do not they are being arrsted . Bloody third rate genocidal black Veddah Nazi dogs.
Your savage primitive tribe are superstitious nutjobs.

These female army recruits are suffering from some form of barbaric mass hysteria. Probably because they took innocent lives during the war and now they hear the screams of tortured Sinhala & Muslim children when they sleep. All Tamils must be experiencing the same psychological issues. They killed for thirty years so their Karma has come back to bite them.
Soulja

Richmond Hill, Canada

#18 Jan 2, 2013
Despicable Me wrote:
<quoted text>
Your savage primitive tribe are superstitious nutjobs.
These female army recruits are suffering from some form of barbaric mass hysteria. Probably because they took innocent lives during the war and now they hear the screams of tortured Sinhala & Muslim children when they sleep. All Tamils must be experiencing the same psychological issues. They killed for thirty years so their Karma has come back to bite them.
Hey Despicable Sinhalese, Obviously many Sinhalese soldiers are committing suicides for the same reason. Tamils have clear conscince and we killed nobody, But Majority of the Sinhalese live in fear psychosis all their lives due to innocent tamil blood upto their elbows.
Punc

Orleans, Canada

#19 Jan 2, 2013
Soulja wrote:
<quoted text>Tamils have clear conscince and we killed nobody,.
Guess your sister who detonated her kari filled asshoole at Fort railway station was not a tamule? ROFL.. ado unwanted vesi, go to nadu forum. kari demala.
Soulja

Richmond Hill, Canada

#20 Jan 2, 2013
Punc wrote:
<quoted text>
Guess your sister who detonated her kari filled asshoole at Fort railway station was not a tamule? ROFL.. ado unwanted vesi, go to nadu forum. kari demala.
It was said to be a Malay Vesi disguised as a Tamil. Obviously this malay vesi worked for STF and the Government reported this as a LTTE operation. Sadly many Srilankan believed the Government acount.
Punc

Orleans, Canada

#21 Jan 2, 2013
Soulja wrote:
<quoted text>It was said to be a Malay Vesi disguised as a Tamil. Obviously this malay vesi worked for STF and the Government reported this as a LTTE operation. Sadly many Srilankan believed the Government acount.
No she stank just like a killer demala vesi. she was definelty a goo bucket demala. understood? useless pakaya.

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