President Right To Lift Stem Cell Res...

President Right To Lift Stem Cell Restrictions

There are 83 comments on the Hartford Courant story from Mar 17, 2009, titled President Right To Lift Stem Cell Restrictions. In it, Hartford Courant reports that:

President Barack Obama campaigned on hope. There can be no greater manifestation of this promise than his decision to lift restrictions imposed by his predecessor on federal funding for embryonic stem cell research.

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Not Happy

Colchester, VT

#1 Mar 17, 2009
"The majority of Americans support study of these tiny generic cells present during development of human embryos."

Interesting way to phrase it. How many Americans realize that in order to obtain these tiny genetic cells to study we must destroy human life? The destruction of innocent human life is the basis of our hope? Incredible!

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#2 Mar 18, 2009
Not Happy wrote:
"The majority of Americans support study of these tiny generic cells present during development of human embryos."
Interesting way to phrase it. How many Americans realize that in order to obtain these tiny genetic cells to study we must destroy human life? The destruction of innocent human life is the basis of our hope? Incredible!
Uh, no we don't have to destroy anything.

before it went. Creation of embryos for IVF, implant some,throw the leftover embryos in the trash.

Now it is create them, implant some, study the leftovers THEN throw them in the trash.

We've been throwing them out for 20 years and nobody had a problem with it, now someone wants to study them before they go in the trash can and it's a huge deal.
Kay

Rockville, MD

#3 Mar 18, 2009
CTEd wrote:
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Uh, no we don't have to destroy anything.
before it went. Creation of embryos for IVF, implant some,throw the leftover embryos in the trash.
Now it is create them, implant some, study the leftovers THEN throw them in the trash.
We've been throwing them out for 20 years and nobody had a problem with it, now someone wants to study them before they go in the trash can and it's a huge deal.
And when asked what should be done with them, if not used for ESCR, the opposition is completely at a loss. They're like the dog in the manger--can't eat the hay, but won't let the cow near it.
GreekChorus

AOL

#4 Mar 18, 2009
Kay wrote:
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And when asked what should be done with them, if not used for ESCR, the opposition is completely at a loss. They're like the dog in the manger--can't eat the hay, but won't let the cow near it.
Actually, many who oppose this are of the view that creating multiple embryos knowing that many will be killed is itself an evil and should not be done. That they cannot find a solution to a problem that wouldn't have happened had their views been followed is not really their fault.

Anyone reading this op-ed piece should also read Charles Krauthammer's column which can be linked from Courant.com . It is far more well-informed, thoughtful, intelligent and insightful.
Motherboard

Brunswick, ME

#5 Mar 18, 2009
GreekChorus wrote:
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Actually, many who oppose this are of the view that creating multiple embryos knowing that many will be killed is itself an evil and should not be done. That they cannot find a solution to a problem that wouldn't have happened had their views been followed is not really their fault.
Anyone reading this op-ed piece should also read Charles Krauthammer's column which can be linked from Courant.com . It is far more well-informed, thoughtful, intelligent and insightful.
The Krauthammer column is interesting and definitely worth a read:

http://www.courant.com/news/opinion/editorial...

I wish the president had been clearer about where the line should be drawn--human life should not be created solely for the purpose of dissection and experimentation.
init

Rockville, MD

#6 Mar 18, 2009
Motherboard wrote:
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The Krauthammer column is interesting and definitely worth a read:
http://www.courant.com/news/opinion/editorial...
I wish the president had been clearer about where the line should be drawn--human life should not be created solely for the purpose of dissection and experimentation.
How much "clearer" could he have been? He said no such thing should or would take place.
Pat

Granby, CT

#7 Mar 18, 2009
Not Happy wrote:
"The majority of Americans support study of these tiny generic cells present during development of human embryos."
Interesting way to phrase it. How many Americans realize that in order to obtain these tiny genetic cells to study we must destroy human life? The destruction of innocent human life is the basis of our hope? Incredible!
And how many of these unwanted embryos did you want inplanted? LOL Science/reason trumps religion every time AS IT SHOULD.
Patrick

United States

#8 Mar 18, 2009
The President isn't right to lift the restriction. Are people stupid, or do they realize that embryonic stem cells have cured NOTHING!!!!! Adult stem cells and umbilical cord stem cells have cured diseases contributed to medical treatments.
Patrick

United States

#9 Mar 18, 2009
Pat wrote:
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And how many of these unwanted embryos did you want inplanted? LOL Science/reason trumps religion every time AS IT SHOULD.
Let me know how that works out for you after you die.

“ Divided We Fall ”

Since: Dec 08

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#10 Mar 18, 2009
Patrick wrote:
The President isn't right to lift the restriction. Are people stupid, or do they realize that embryonic stem cells have cured NOTHING!!!!! Adult stem cells and umbilical cord stem cells have cured diseases contributed to medical treatments.
You should check out the Mayo Clinic web site before you make the claim that ES cell have done nothing because you are wrong.
Kay

Rockville, MD

#11 Mar 18, 2009
Patrick wrote:
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Let me know how that works out for you after you die.
You first.

I just love how the religious nuts always talk about the love of God and his mercy. And then threaten those who don't kowtow to them with God's eternal damnation.

So appealing.

Go blow. Your religious beliefs don't hold sway.
Cathy

Wallingford, CT

#12 Mar 18, 2009
Kay wrote:
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You first.
I just love how the religious nuts always talk about the love of God and his mercy. And then threaten those who don't kowtow to them with God's eternal damnation.
So appealing.
Go blow. Your religious beliefs don't hold sway.
First? We're all going sometime. Yes, God is a God of mercy and love, but He is also a God of righteousness and justice. It always amazes me the people who spit on His love and mercy without realizing that we will all, Christian, Muslim, and atheist alike, face the same God when all is said and done. My religious beliefs may not hold sway with you, but when you meet the God who created you and you have to answer why you supported the destruction of human life, whether it be in embryonic form or a full-term baby murdered by partial-birth abortion, where will your science be then?
Pat

Granby, CT

#13 Mar 18, 2009
Patrick wrote:
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Let me know how that works out for you after you die.
Impossible. Magic isn't real bozo.
Pat

Granby, CT

#14 Mar 18, 2009
Cathy wrote:
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First? We're all going sometime. Yes, God is a God of mercy and love, but He is also a God of righteousness and justice. It always amazes me the people who spit on His love and mercy without realizing that we will all, Christian, Muslim, and atheist alike, face the same God when all is said and done. My religious beliefs may not hold sway with you, but when you meet the God who created you and you have to answer why you supported the destruction of human life, whether it be in embryonic form or a full-term baby murdered by partial-birth abortion, where will your science be then?
Did god create imperfect humans and give them free will? Did god do this of his own free will? Did god screw up and not realize sin would be the result of giving imperfect humans free will or did god intend for sin to occur all along just so he could then have something he could punish?

If god is the creator then he is ultimately responsible for all sin. All sins are the direct result of his own behavior. You see how stupid your fairytale actually is?

Since: Mar 09

san diego, ca

#15 Mar 18, 2009
religious werdios. you can obtain stem cell research without killing anything. maybe do some research. yes they use embroyos but they are stem cells in your umbiliial cord. so insead of throwing away the cords after your child is born save it and it saves another. u dont use the cord and it kills nothing oh my im genious!!!!!!! lol not reallly.

Since: Mar 09

san diego, ca

#16 Mar 18, 2009
umbiical cord my spellling sorrry
Brooke

Stamford, CT

#17 Mar 18, 2009
Pat wrote:
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And how many of these unwanted embryos did you want inplanted? LOL Science/reason trumps religion every time AS IT SHOULD.
You are incorrect on that. Over the course of history some real atrocities have been committed in the name of science/reason too. Human experimentation is one example that you might justify as a means to an end - not only in Nazi Germany but also with human subjects here in the US. Citing Reason, many have argued against intervening in times of famine and epidemics citing the "reasonable" argument that the ranks of miserable humanity need thinning out, survival of the fittest etc. Remember thalidomide and the countless other medicines and procedures that harmed or maimed. We still don't know the long term effects of many technologies, genetic engineering of crops - and can only hope that there aren't hidden dangers or hazards to humanity. Your blind and unconditional worship of unbridled science scares me. History has proven its limits and abuses.
Brooke

Stamford, CT

#18 Mar 18, 2009
Pat wrote:
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Did god create imperfect humans and give them free will? Did god do this of his own free will? Did god screw up and not realize sin would be the result of giving imperfect humans free will or did god intend for sin to occur all along just so he could then have something he could punish?
If god is the creator then he is ultimately responsible for all sin. All sins are the direct result of his own behavior. You see how stupid your fairytale actually is?
While you fume and call her reasoning stupid, you can't prove that she is not right. You might insist that there is no proof of God - but you will never be able to in fact prove that there is not.
Kay

Rockville, MD

#19 Mar 18, 2009
Cathy wrote:
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First? We're all going sometime. Yes, God is a God of mercy and love, but He is also a God of righteousness and justice. It always amazes me the people who spit on His love and mercy without realizing that we will all, Christian, Muslim, and atheist alike, face the same God when all is said and done. My religious beliefs may not hold sway with you, but when you meet the God who created you and you have to answer why you supported the destruction of human life, whether it be in embryonic form or a full-term baby murdered by partial-birth abortion, where will your science be then?
Right where it should be. I don't believe in your superstitions and they don't rule my life. Nor should they determine law. I don't believe that abortion or ESCR are morally wrong, and I've proposed to everyone I've encountered on these fora that they prove otherwise. Go ahead. You believe abortion is morally wrong. I don't. What, aside from your "beliefs", do you have to prove that your opinion should outweigh mine?

Since: Mar 09

san diego, ca

#20 Mar 18, 2009
kay has a point.

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