Expert: We must act fast on warming

Expert: We must act fast on warming

There are 28465 comments on the Kansas.com story from Sep 24, 2008, titled Expert: We must act fast on warming. In it, Kansas.com reports that:

Droughts, melting ice caps and glaciers, rising sea levels and mass extinctions will all be a reality unless the U.S. and the world cut back on carbon emissions dramatically, said James Hansen, director of ...

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litesong

Everett, WA

#26109 Nov 7, 2012
litesong wrote:
Arctic sea ice, either by satellite or submarine data, is above the 2007 and 2011 Arctic sea ice extent AND, a month later than 'normal', the sea ice average for the decades of 2000's, AND THE 1990's, at 8,107,031 km2 (November 5, 2012), the day's gain Kentucky-sized, with temperatures above the 80th parallel now at -19 degC. The sun has been unseen from the North Pole for 7 weeks, temperatures on landforms surrounding the Arctic Ocean, as low as -28 & -32degC! After the Arctic cold outbreak, which has added three plus feet of snow to the results of Hurricane Sandy, Arctic cold is once more building.

Arctic Ocean warmth is & will continue to keep Arctic sea ice thinner through the coming winter & even spring. As of October 2, Arctic sea ice VOLUME is ~23% lower than any satellite recorded year AND indications of submarine-detected Arctic sea ice yearly VOLUME.
Yes, the Arctic sea ice VOLUME is disappearing, year to year, quicker than the Arctic sea ice extent.
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litesong continues
Presently, Arctic sea ice extent is above 2007 AND 2011, the average minimum Arctic sea ice extent for the 2000's, the 1990's, & now the 1980's, at 8,182,813 km2 (November 6, 2012), the day's gain smaller than S. Carolina. Indeed, Arctic Ice Pack area, tho colder than normal for 3 weeks, beginning a month ago, is lower than the years, 2007 & 2008. Present temperatures on landforms surrounding the Arctic Ocean, are way below freezing, numerous areas into minus teen digits. Many northern Canadian islands & Alaska have a mix of temperatures in the minus teens, with the lowest at -28 AND -33degC! Siberian temperatures are in the lower minus teens.

The vast open Arctic waters north of Siberia have been covered by Arctic Ice Pack. The huge sea ice floes that strongly developed in the vast clear waters north of Siberia(due to broad double digit minus Siberian temps spilled from North Pole's 7 weeks of darkness & vortex mixing breaking down stratified solar heated waters?), have done their job AND connected the Ice Pack to the entire Siberian coastline, truly a remarkable development!

However, Franz Joseph Land & Svalbard are still clear of the Ice Pack & so is the northern coast of Alaska!!!!!!

A detail noted 23 days ago is a raggy taggy developing edge along a part of the semi-circle, possibly NOT coincidental with the HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS (plus?) OF SQUARE KILOMETERS, of waters north of Alaska & Siberia that are VASTLY CLEAR. Might the raggy taggy edge indicate huge turbulence & currents in this largest(ever?) ice free, & resulting southerly-directed heat stratified Arctic waters? I wonder if there might develop more raggy taggy edging, enough to form a swirl pattern?
Twenty two days ago, noted near the raggy taggy ice pack, developed 3 tiny pixel ice floes(arced?), separated from the Arctic ice pack toward southerly directions. Twenty one days ago, the number of ice floes increased to 8 & indeed they formed an ARC. Pretty sure they represent a large scale vortex in open Arctic water!
Further data, show that the vortex is true!

Downwelling solar heats, in unusual clear Arctic Ocean & seas, normally sea ice covered in decades past, which have strongly transported extra solar energy to continental shelf, sea & Ocean depths for 4 months, is over. The sun is unseen anywhere above the 75th parallel, now shrouding the Arctic with darkness for a good portion of the year! Now, only Alaskan, far north European, & far western Russian southern Arctic seas get a skimming from the sun for a few hours a day, which is only single digit degrees off the horizon, at most!

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#26110 Nov 7, 2012
PHD wrote:
<quoted text>With a little stupid ask the responder. Well it appears that big Bird will live four more years.
I know that some wanted Big Bird for Thanksgiving dinner but it is not to be.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#26111 Nov 7, 2012
Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:
<quoted text>
I know that some wanted Big Bird for Thanksgiving dinner but it is not to be.
And he wanted to kill Big Bird badly. One of the mysteries Romney exhibited.

He knew he was a loser with his bad intentions for us.
litesong

Everett, WA

#26112 Nov 7, 2012
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>And he wanted to kill Big Bird badly. One of the mysteries Romney exhibited.
He knew he was a loser with his bad intentions for us.
No mystery.
re-pubic-lick-uns need to kill PBS, voices against them.
re-pubic-lick-uns need to kill unions, voices against them.
re-pubic-lick-uns need to kill blacks, voices against them.
re-pubic-lick-uns need to kill hispanics, voices against them.
re-pubic-lick-uns need to kill poor voters, voices against them.
re-pubic-lick-uns need to kill women, voices against them.
re-pubic-lick-uns need to kill voting rights laws, voices against them.
re-pubic-lick-uns need to kill Native Tribes, voices against them.
re-pubic-lick-uns need to kill democracy, voices against them.
re-pubic-lick-uns need to kill science, voices against them.

re-pubic-lick-uns need to kill their self-righteousness. Then, they would be healed from their many sicknesses.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#26113 Nov 7, 2012
litesong wrote:
<quoted text>
No mystery.
re-pubic-lick-uns need to kill PBS, voices against them.
re-pubic-lick-uns need to kill unions, voices against them.
re-pubic-lick-uns need to kill blacks, voices against them.
re-pubic-lick-uns need to kill hispanics, voices against them.
re-pubic-lick-uns need to kill poor voters, voices against them.
re-pubic-lick-uns need to kill women, voices against them.
re-pubic-lick-uns need to kill voting rights laws, voices against them.
re-pubic-lick-uns need to kill Native Tribes, voices against them.
re-pubic-lick-uns need to kill democracy, voices against them.
re-pubic-lick-uns need to kill science, voices against them.
re-pubic-lick-uns need to kill their self-righteousness. Then, they would be healed from their many sicknesses.
Huh they would have to kill themselves to heal.
responder

Columbus, OH

#26114 Nov 7, 2012
Lil Ticked wrote:
<quoted text>How do you line your birdcage with the internetz?
Figuratively, although I suppose you COULD print it out...:)
PHD

Cibolo, TX

#26115 Nov 7, 2012
Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:
<quoted text>
I know that some wanted Big Bird for Thanksgiving dinner but it is not to be.
Now the Mitt eats crow. Do any of our feathered friends have a chance?

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#26116 Nov 7, 2012
PHD wrote:
<quoted text>Now the Mitt eats crow. Do any of our feathered friends have a chance?
Perhaps one, the one that flew the coup.
PHD

Cibolo, TX

#26117 Nov 7, 2012
Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:
<quoted text>
Perhaps one, the one that flew the coup.
With hope maybe more than one.
litesong

Everett, WA

#26118 Nov 7, 2012
litesong wrote:
<quoted text>
No mystery.
re-pubic-lick-uns need to kill PBS, voices against them.
re-pubic-lick-uns need to kill unions, voices against them.
re-pubic-lick-uns need to kill blacks, voices against them.
re-pubic-lick-uns need to kill hispanics, voices against them.
re-pubic-lick-uns need to kill poor voters, voices against them.
re-pubic-lick-uns need to kill women, voices against them.
re-pubic-lick-uns need to kill voting rights laws, voices against them.
re-pubic-lick-uns need to kill Native Tribes, voices against them.
re-pubic-lick-uns need to kill democracy, voices against them.
re-pubic-lick-uns need to kill science, voices against them.
re-pubic-lick-uns need to kill their self-righteousness. Then, they would be healed from their many sicknesses.
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SpaceBlues wrote:
Huh they would have to kill themselves to heal.
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litesong wrote:
Already, re-pubic-lick-uns are making excuses why they lost...... Romneyhood wasn't re-pubic-lick-un enough......

Yeah, they will have to kill themselves off. Being head CEO just don't swing enough political white man, kick butt, no more, no how!

Or as I've said, ya just can't be a slimy steenking filthy vile reprobate rooting(& rotting) racist pukey proud pig...... no more, no how!
PHD

Cibolo, TX

#26119 Nov 8, 2012
litesong wrote:
litesong wrote:
<quoted text>
No mystery.
re-pubic-lick-uns need to kill PBS, voices against them.
re-pubic-lick-uns need to kill unions, voices against them.
re-pubic-lick-uns need to kill blacks, voices against them.
re-pubic-lick-uns need to kill hispanics, voices against them.
re-pubic-lick-uns need to kill poor voters, voices against them.
re-pubic-lick-uns need to kill women, voices against them.
re-pubic-lick-uns need to kill voting rights laws, voices against them.
re-pubic-lick-uns need to kill Native Tribes, voices against them.
re-pubic-lick-uns need to kill democracy, voices against them.
re-pubic-lick-uns need to kill science, voices against them.
re-pubic-lick-uns need to kill their self-righteousness. Then, they would be healed from their many sicknesses.
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SpaceBlues wrote:
Huh they would have to kill themselves to heal.
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litesong wrote:
Already, re-pubic-lick-uns are making excuses why they lost...... Romneyhood wasn't re-pubic-lick-un enough......
Yeah, they will have to kill themselves off. Being head CEO just don't swing enough political white man, kick butt, no more, no how!
Or as I've said, ya just can't be a slimy steenking filthy vile reprobate rooting(& rotting) racist pukey proud pig...... no more, no how!
Yes but they are smart enough to let you keep your weapons. Sounds good, but they will make sure they control you financially. There goal is to make each other wealthy and the rest poor. Oh not all just a few of their special society.
Northie

Spokane, WA

#26120 Nov 8, 2012
Where'd all the conservative wingnuts go? What happened?
LessHypeMoreFact

Toronto, Canada

#26121 Nov 8, 2012
Northie wrote:
Where'd all the conservative wingnuts go? What happened?
Back into hiding for a while. They have to define a new 'vitual' enemy that they can 'take back the country' from.

Without offending the Latino's, blacks , women, etc that they are trying to take the country back from.

Also, the voice of the 'hard done by' billionaires seem to be quiet since Tuesday. Must be shock at how much they spent for no results.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#26122 Nov 8, 2012
Northie wrote:
Where'd all the conservative wingnuts go? What happened?
The wingnuts lost. We will see a more responsible Republican Party now. The demographics have changed with a more diverse population. The mid-sections of America will soon follow the obvious change on the East and West coasts. The Republicans must represent this new demographic or die. Carl Rove is dead. Will FOX News follow?
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#26123 Nov 8, 2012
Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:
<quoted text>
The wingnuts lost. We will see a more responsible Republican Party now. The demographics have changed with a more diverse population. The mid-sections of America will soon follow the obvious change on the East and West coasts. The Republicans must represent this new demographic or die. Carl Rove is dead. Will FOX News follow?
I'd rather design a new party for the new century. Starting new has positive inertia and fixing a broken party has negative inertia. The party of Abe Lincoln has imploded. RIP.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#26124 Nov 8, 2012
LessHypeMoreFact wrote:
<quoted text>
Back into hiding for a while. They have to define a new 'vitual' enemy that they can 'take back the country' from.
Without offending the Latino's, blacks , women, etc that they are trying to take the country back from.
Also, the voice of the 'hard done by' billionaires seem to be quiet since Tuesday. Must be shock at how much they spent for no results.
Are you hiding in Spain? There are at least two posts under your name. Alas.

Is it a marital arrangement? <Only kidding.>

P.S. Agreed. This is why I think nobody can fix the GOP.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#26125 Nov 8, 2012
Northie wrote:
Where'd all the conservative wingnuts go? What happened?
They thought they could wing it again, that's all.

Many states tried to keep out the voters from the election. Romney thought his "wife would make a great first lady." So he and others told us.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#26126 Nov 8, 2012
litesong wrote:
litesong wrote:
<quoted text>
No mystery.
re-pubic-lick-uns need to kill PBS, voices against them.
re-pubic-lick-uns need to kill unions, voices against them.
re-pubic-lick-uns need to kill blacks, voices against them.
re-pubic-lick-uns need to kill hispanics, voices against them.
re-pubic-lick-uns need to kill poor voters, voices against them.
re-pubic-lick-uns need to kill women, voices against them.
re-pubic-lick-uns need to kill voting rights laws, voices against them.
re-pubic-lick-uns need to kill Native Tribes, voices against them.
re-pubic-lick-uns need to kill democracy, voices against them.
re-pubic-lick-uns need to kill science, voices against them.
re-pubic-lick-uns need to kill their self-righteousness. Then, they would be healed from their many sicknesses.
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SpaceBlues wrote:
Huh they would have to kill themselves to heal.
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litesong wrote:
Already, re-pubic-lick-uns are making excuses why they lost...... Romneyhood wasn't re-pubic-lick-un enough......
Yeah, they will have to kill themselves off. Being head CEO just don't swing enough political white man, kick butt, no more, no how!
Or as I've said, ya just can't be a slimy steenking filthy vile reprobate rooting(& rotting) racist pukey proud pig...... no more, no how!
Design a new party.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#26127 Nov 8, 2012
responder wrote:
<quoted text>
Figuratively, although I suppose you COULD print it out...:)
Correct.

Although Shakespeare would not understand the language.
LessHypeMoreFact

Toronto, Canada

#26128 Nov 8, 2012
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>Are you hiding in Spain? There are at least two posts under your name. Alas.
Is it a marital arrangement? <Only kidding.>
Earthling has gotten tired of ad-hominem and is moving to identity theft.
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>Are you hiding in Spain? P.S. Agreed. This is why I think nobody can fix the GOP.
The Republican Party used to be the science party. Back when new inventions were the core of business development. Now, they are in 'monopoly' positions behind megacorporations and afraid of being held accountable for 'externalized costs' so they have dropped science and technology for 'incremental improvements' just like the 'design changes' of the 1950 automobile.

Won't work for the long term and SOME business has found that developing NEW technologies to increase sustainability (and reduce pollution and waste) is actually more profitable. But it takes time. They may yet return to reality.

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