Evolution: 24 myths and misconceptions

Apr 19, 2008 | Posted by: Cash | Full story: www.newscientist.com

If you think you understand it, you don't know nearly enough about it, even though it will soon be 200 years since the birth of Charles Darwin and 150 years since the publication of On the Origin of Species .

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Feb 14, 2009
 
Liam R wrote:
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1) The genealogies of Jesus given in Matt 1 vs Luke 3 contradict each other as to who is the father of Joseph.
2) In Matt 5:16 Jesus tells people to be seen doing good works, yet in Matt 6:1 he says to hide your good works.
3) Matt 5:20, Matt 12:37, Matt 16:27, Matt 19:17, and Matt 25 41-46 all say something to the effect that works/actions/following the laws of Moses are REQUIRED for salvation yet in Mark 16:16 Jesus is alleged to have said that faith only leads to salvation.
4)In Matt 10:10 and Luke 9:3 Jesus is said to have told his disciples to journey with nothing, not even sandles or a staff Yet Mark 6:8-9 the instructions are to have a staff and shoes.
5) During his trial before the high priest, Matt 26:63-64 and Luke 22:70 both claim that Jesus evaded the question if he was the Christ, yet in Mark 14:62 he says flat out that he was.
6) Matt 27:12-14 claims that Jesus was silent before Pilate, while John 18:33-38 says that Jesus held a conversation with Pilate.
This list is just the stuff from Matthew where Jesus contradicts HIMSELF.(Well, except for the genealogy contradiction, since that was not Jesus talking.) There are still others where Jesus contradicts the Old Testament and where the other Gospels contradict one another (but not Matthew). In other words, there a LOTS of contradictions in the New Testament.
But then, that is to be expected when so many different writers were inventing the Jesus myths without good communication back and forth between them.
I'll clear all of this up for you shortly. Today is too nice of a day to argue.

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BrothaLove wrote:
<quoted text> I'll clear all of this up for you shortly. Today is too nice of a day to argue.
In other words, you need more time to think up some lies. Do try to be original. I'll give points for originality.

For example, I pointed out the contradiction betwen Matt & Luke regarding the family trees. Matt says that the father of Joseph was Jacob, while Luke claims that the father of Joseph was Heli. The usual lie used to whitewash over this error is to pretend that one genealogy is that of Mary. This lie falls apart of a couple of levels.
1) Both clearly say they are talking about Joseph, not Mary.
2) Family lines were NEVER traced through women.
3) Messianic prophecies make it clear that the bloodline of the Messiah must pass from David, through Solomon, and on and on, FATHER to son, to the Messiah. Thus, Luke's genealogy PROVES that Jesus could not possibly be the Messiah!

So, take your time and craft some lies. If you are creative enough, I'll tell you why the genealogy in Matthew ALSO proves that Jesus cannot possibly be the Messiah.

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<quoted text> EC go back and carefully read what I said. I never said that none of the Christian churches have trained minds. I said none of "those" so called 38,0000 denominations that you mentioned are skilled in our Father's word as they should be. I gave you two biblical examples of churches who are skilled and which skill set they possess.
Interesting, the 38,000 would be inclusive of all denominations. Your claim and you repeat it here state NONE of the 38,000 possess the skill.

Which denominations in your opinion do possess the skill? Why do you set those denominations above the others and would the others agree?
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Feb 15, 2009
 
>>>>eternal cynic
Which denominations in your opinion do possess the skill? Why do you set those denominations above the others and would the others agree?

>>>>Gillette
One's OWN denomination, naturally and not surprisingly, is ALWAYS among those who "really get it." :)

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Gillette wrote:
>>>>eternal cynic
Which denominations in your opinion do possess the skill? Why do you set those denominations above the others and would the others agree?
>>>>Gillette
One's OWN denomination, naturally and not surprisingly, is ALWAYS among those who "really get it." :)
I had assumed that. You know the best defense against religion is logic. But, you already knew that too :)

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eternal cynic wrote:
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Interesting, the 38,000 would be inclusive of all denominations. Your claim and you repeat it here state NONE of the 38,000 possess the skill.
Which denominations in your opinion do possess the skill? Why do you set those denominations above the others and would the others agree?
I just don't do denominations. Neither did Jesus or any of the prophets. I could not tell you the difference between a Methodist and a Baptist. I just read my Bible and let the chips fall where they may.

I thought you were smarter than that--asking me about denominations. The two churches in revelations are NOT denominations but rather simple christians who know and study the truth. Study your Bible to find out what seperates these two churches from the rest of the pack. I won't make it easy for you. You'll have to do your own work if you want the truth.

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<quoted text> I just don't do denominations. Neither did Jesus or any of the prophets. I could not tell you the difference between a Methodist and a Baptist. I just read my Bible and let the chips fall where they may.
I thought you were smarter than that--asking me about denominations. The two churches in revelations are NOT denominations but rather simple christians who know and study the truth. Study your Bible to find out what seperates these two churches from the rest of the pack. I won't make it easy for you. You'll have to do your own work if you want the truth.
How very convenient you do not recognize denominations. Given your answer I guess we now have 38,001 denominations.

There are seven churches in revelations, not two. They are, Ephesus, Smyrna, Pergamum, Thyatira, Sardis, Philadelphia and Laodicea.

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How very convenient you do not recognize denominations. Given your answer I guess we now have 38,001 denominations.
There are seven churches in revelations, not two. They are, Ephesus, Smyrna, Pergamum, Thyatira, Sardis, Philadelphia and Laodicea.
Glad you know how to count to seven. Twelve more years of skoolin and you might just graduate pre-KG. I recognize those churches that Christ recognizes. Revelations 2:9 and 3:9 pays special attention to just two of the seven EC. That means five churches (even though good churches) are like unto those five (not ten) virgins mentioned in Matt 25.

Another quick lesson for you. The churches in Rev are "types" of churches in the end time. The numbers are not exact.

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Liam R wrote:
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In other words, you need more time to think up some lies. Do try to be original. I'll give points for originality.
For example, I pointed out the contradiction betwen Matt & Luke regarding the family trees. Matt says that the father of Joseph was Jacob, while Luke claims that the father of Joseph was Heli. The usual lie used to whitewash over this error is to pretend that one genealogy is that of Mary. This lie falls apart of a couple of levels.
1) Both clearly say they are talking about Joseph, not Mary.
2) Family lines were NEVER traced through women.
3) Messianic prophecies make it clear that the bloodline of the Messiah must pass from David, through Solomon, and on and on, FATHER to son, to the Messiah. Thus, Luke's genealogy PROVES that Jesus could not possibly be the Messiah!
So, take your time and craft some lies. If you are creative enough, I'll tell you why the genealogy in Matthew ALSO proves that Jesus cannot possibly be the Messiah.
Keep your panties on Liam. I'll get to you in good time.

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BrothaLove wrote:
<quoted text> Glad you know how to count to seven. Twelve more years of skoolin and you might just graduate pre-KG. I recognize those churches that Christ recognizes. Revelations 2:9 and 3:9 pays special attention to just two of the seven EC. That means five churches (even though good churches) are like unto those five (not ten) virgins mentioned in Matt 25.
Another quick lesson for you. The churches in Rev are "types" of churches in the end time. The numbers are not exact.
I’m glad you made this personal. I feel no obligation to be polite to you at this point.

You stated “The two churches in revelations are NOT denominations but rather simple christians who know and study the truth.”

Then you state

“Revelations 2:9 and 3:9 pays special attention to just two of the seven”

Then you state the numbers are not exact.

“The churches in Rev are "types" of churches in the end time. The numbers are not exact.”

You then bring end times into the equation. Where does the bible make the statement Revelations speaks of types of churches in end times?

Does the bible teach someone how to speak two different “truths” out of the same mouth or is that a trick you’ve learned on your own. What does your bible say about dishonesty?

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I’m glad you made this personal. I feel no obligation to be polite to you at this point.
You stated “The two churches in revelations are NOT denominations but rather simple christians who know and study the truth.”
Then you state
“Revelations 2:9 and 3:9 pays special attention to just two of the seven”
Then you state the numbers are not exact.
“The churches in Rev are "types" of churches in the end time. The numbers are not exact.”
You then bring end times into the equation. Where does the bible make the statement Revelations speaks of types of churches in end times?
Does the bible teach someone how to speak two different “truths” out of the same mouth or is that a trick you’ve learned on your own. What does your bible say about dishonesty?
Every Christian knows that the woman in Rev 12 is the body of Christ e.g., the Church. Within that body there are many members or parts. One body EC--many parts. I didn't get personal with you.

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BrothaLove wrote:
<quoted text> Every Christian knows that the woman in Rev 12 is the body of Christ e.g., the Church. Within that body there are many members or parts. One body EC--many parts. I didn't get personal with you.
You didn’t get personal? Are these not your words directed at me?
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<quoted text> Glad you know how to count to seven. Twelve more years of skoolin and you might just graduate pre-KG.
I posed a question to you, what is the biblical view on dishonesty? You’ve now been dishonest at least twice in this thread.

The woman in Rev 12 is the body of Christ? Are you now saying Christ was actually a butch dyke?

If that woman is the body of Christ explain

Revelations 12:2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.

followed by

Revelations 12:5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne

Wouldn’t that woman according the story be the mother of Christ? Or does your god have two bastard children? Technically speaking Jesus is a bastard according to the bible, born out of wedlock.

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