Should evolution be taught in high school?

Feb 24, 2008 | Posted by: Cash | Full story: www.scientificblogging.com

Microbiologist Carl Woese is well known as an iconoclast. At 79 years of age, Woese is still shaking things up. Most recently, he stated in an interview with Wired that...

"My feeling is that evolution shouldn't be taught at the lower grades. You don't teach quantum mechanics in the grade schools. One has to be quite educated to work with these concepts; what they pass on as evolution in high schools is nothing but repetitious tripe that teachers don't understand."

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Make mine Angels food cake. You can have the devils food cake.
The Devil is an Angel , doofus.

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Sub lets use decay of 3 rocks with the same identical make up. They are the same shape(round) but one is 1 and 1/2 times larger than the small one and one is twice as large as the small one. If they are exposed to fast running water constantly. The decay rate should be the same. So if it took 100 years for the smaller rock to completely decay away it would make complete sense that the rock that is 1 and 1/2 times larger would take 150 years and the rock that is twice as large will take 200 years.
Nuclear decay is just that, nuclear. It is not exposed to the elements. Chemical reactions take place in the electron shells of atoms, they are a totally different sort of reaction. So it does not take twice as long for a twice as much material to decay. The most important factor is the half life. If you have twice as many atoms you will have one more lifetime. Radioactive decay is plotted on log paper, not regular graph paper, it you want a straight line.

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Everyone of you evo morons copy and paste some BS analogy from a five and dime website or you go along with what the other morons in your group claim. None of you offer an explanation as to how scientists figured out the decay rate and it seems by your Evo answers, the scientists don't want you or the kids being taught, to understand.
You have to know calculus to do the math.

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In HTS's last 10 posts, show where HTS used religion as a crutch. All I've seen from HTS is science and logic.
You evos hide behind religion when you can't answer, just as you do now.
He makes it no secret >why< he lies, just as you make it no secret that you don't understand a jot or tittle about logic and science any more than he does.

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<quoted text>The definition of universe is a moving target. Not that long ago it only included the milky way.

Now we have a poly dimensional multiverse, or so it would seem. Do we keep changing the definition to include more, or do we limit it to our own realm of existence? If we keep expanding the definition what do we call our "universe"?

When we went from milky way = universe to milky way = galaxy all we did is go to the Greek word for "milky"? The Greek word 'galaxias' literally means "milky".

What word do you suggest?

Cosmos?
macrocosm?
Ummmm no it the same as it was the only thing moving is it's increase in misuse of the word.

The correct other word would be multiverse.

These are current:

u·ni·verse
/ˈyo͞onəˌvərs/
Noun
All existing matter and space considered as a whole; the cosmos.

u·ni·verse (yn-vûrs)
n.
1. All matter and energy, including the earth, the galaxies, and the contents of intergalactic space, regarded as a whole.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/_/dict.aspx...

Main Entry: uni·verse
Pronunciation:\ˈyü-nə-ˌvə rs\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Latin universum, from neuter ofuniversus entire, whole, from uni-+versus turned toward, from past participle of vertere to turn — more at worth
Date: 14th century
1 : the whole body of things and phenomena observed or postulated :

http://i.word.com/idictionary/universe

universe[ yoo-nuh-vurs ]
noun
1. the totality of known or supposed objects and phenomena throughout space; the cosmos; macrocosm.
http://m.dictionary.com/d/...
Definition of universein English
universe
Syllabification:(u·ni·verse)
Pronunciation:/ˈyo͞onəˌvə rs/
Translate universe | into French | into German |into Italian | into Spanish
noun
(the universe)
all existing matter and space considered as a whole; the cosmos.

http://oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/a...

universe science definition

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The totality of matter, energy, and space, including the Solar System, the galaxies, and the contents of the space between the galaxies. Current theories ofcosmology suggest that the universe is constantly expanding.

http://science.yourdictionary.com/

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Nope the definition of one will also be what it is.
Those and thousands of more all define the Universe as it's alway been
Everything that is or postulated is the universes.
Look it up and Learn to use words correctly.
Changing your name has not increased your intelligence at all has it?

No, words change their meaning all of the time. They change depending upon where you live. A female British student can ask another student for a rubber and if he could knock her up in the morning. If a female student asked those sorts of questions in the U.S. her father would be very distraught.

The "correct way" to use a word is constantly changing.

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If you and science can't answer why, then how did science prove such?
Can you get any dumber, this laughter just keeps getting better.

It was amusing to see you buffoning your way around here, but it has gotten stale. I feel sorry for you, on occasion, but mostly you are just a annoyance. Like tolerating a mosquito on a nice summer evening.

You are not so stupid as you try to pretend to be. But you are certainly close.
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You wouldn't know BS even if you watched it hit the ground.
If Pfizer wants to do some weird study on male urine analysis, I won't stand in the way. I doubt that Exxon, Harvard or a museum of natural sciences is going to cough up dough for a test they know will be irrelevant, and if I was defending my reputation as a paleontologist (with hopes of future grants) I wouldn't hitch my name to bogus research - unless the grant came from AIG, since by that my reputation would be shot to Hell anyway.
It's laughable to read th BS that you evo-morons fabricate to justify your stupid theory.
The T. rex bone had INTACT DNA, proven by immunohistochemistry.
They had visible histologic architecture, including haversion systems, blood vessels and collagen.

Carbon-14 dating is not some "weird analysis".
Cut the BS, ChromiuMan...
You know that the only reason Horner is refusing the grant is because he already knows it will produce evidence that will be hostile to evolution.

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You have to know calculus to do the math.

to understand decay, yes. But the actual decay is just probability and statistics.

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Ummmm no it the same as it was the only thing moving is it's increase in misuse of the word.
The correct other word would be multiverse.
These are current:
u·ni·verse
/ˈyo͞onəˌvərs/
Noun
All existing matter and space considered as a whole; the cosmos.
u·ni·verse (yn-vûrs)
n.
1. All matter and energy, including the earth, the galaxies, and the contents of intergalactic space, regarded as a whole.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/_/dict.aspx...
Main Entry: uni·verse
Pronunciation:\ˈyü-nə-ˌvə rs\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Latin universum, from neuter ofuniversus entire, whole, from uni-+versus turned toward, from past participle of vertere to turn — more at worth
Date: 14th century
1 : the whole body of things and phenomena observed or postulated :
http://i.word.com/idictionary/universe
universe[ yoo-nuh-vurs ]
noun
1. the totality of known or supposed objects and phenomena throughout space; the cosmos; macrocosm.
http://m.dictionary.com/d/...
Definition of universein English
universe
Syllabification:(u·ni·verse)
Pronunciation:/ˈyo͞onəˌvə rs/
Translate universe | into French | into German |into Italian | into Spanish
noun
(the universe)
all existing matter and space considered as a whole; the cosmos.
http://oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/a...
universe science definition
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The totality of matter, energy, and space, including the Solar System, the galaxies, and the contents of the space between the galaxies. Current theories ofcosmology suggest that the universe is constantly expanding.
http://science.yourdictionary.com/

Dictionaries do not define usage of a word. They reflect how a word is used.

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<quoted text>The Devil is an Angel , doofus.
Doofus?

First Lucifer is a fallen angel
This of course has NO bearing on cakes

What a Dolt.

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<quoted text>Changing your name has not increased your intelligence at all has it?

No, words change their meaning all of the time. They change depending upon where you live. A female British student can ask another student for a rubber and if he could knock her up in the morning. If a female student asked those sorts of questions in the U.S. her father would be very distraught.

The "correct way" to use a word is constantly changing.
"Changing your name has not increased your intelligence at all has it?"

Is something you believe in? weird...

One is still one
Two is still two ones.
These definitions are current as of today.

u·ni·verse
/ˈyo͞onəˌvərs/
Noun
All existing matter and space considered as a whole; the cosmos.

u·ni·verse (yn-vûrs)
n.
1. All matter and energy, including the earth, the galaxies, and the contents of intergalactic space, regarded as a whole.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/_/dict.aspx...

Main Entry: uni·verse
Pronunciation:\ˈyü-nə-ˌvə rs\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Latin universum, from neuter ofuniversus entire, whole, from uni-+versus turned toward, from past participle of vertere to turn — more at worth
Date: 14th century
1 : the whole body of things and phenomena observed or postulated :

http://i.word.com/idictionary/universe

universe[ yoo-nuh-vurs ]
noun
1. the totality of known or supposed objects and phenomena throughout space; the cosmos; macrocosm.
http://m.dictionary.com/d/...
Definition of universein English
universe
Syllabification:(u·ni·verse)
Pronunciation:/ˈyo͞onəˌvə rs/
Translate universe | into French | into German |into Italian | into Spanish
noun
(the universe)
all existing matter and space considered as a whole; the cosmos.

http://oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/a...

universe science definition

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The totality of matter, energy, and space, including the Solar System, the galaxies, and the contents of the space between the galaxies. Current theories ofcosmology suggest that the universe is constantly expanding.

http://science.yourdictionary.com/

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<quoted text>Dictionaries do not define usage of a word. They reflect how a word is used.
They are current.

ALL known and postulated matter, space, and energy.

u·ni·verse
/ˈyo͞onəˌvərs/
Noun
All existing matter and space considered as a whole; the cosmos.

u·ni·verse (yn-vûrs)
n.
1. All matter and energy, including the earth, the galaxies, and the contents of intergalactic space, regarded as a whole.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/_/dict.aspx...

Main Entry: uni·verse
Pronunciation:\ˈyü-nə-ˌvə rs\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Latin universum, from neuter ofuniversus entire, whole, from uni-+versus turned toward, from past participle of vertere to turn — more at worth
Date: 14th century
1 : the whole body of things and phenomena observed or postulated :

http://i.word.com/idictionary/universe

universe[ yoo-nuh-vurs ]
noun
1. the totality of known or supposed objects and phenomena throughout space; the cosmos; macrocosm.
http://m.dictionary.com/d/...
Definition of universein English
universe
Syllabification:(u·ni·verse)
Pronunciation:/ˈyo͞onəˌvə rs/
Translate universe | into French | into German |into Italian | into Spanish
noun
(the universe)
all existing matter and space considered as a whole; the cosmos.

http://oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/a...

universe science definition

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The totality of matter, energy, and space, including the Solar System, the galaxies, and the contents of the space between the galaxies. Current theories ofcosmology suggest that the universe is constantly expanding.

http://science.yourdictionary.com/

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How did you get so stupid as to copy and paste info from khan academy?
Wow, in all of science, khan academy is the Evo morons choice to explain the decay rate of radiation. Fruking morons.
Science doesn't want the kids to understand. Dumbing down the kids is what science is proving.
KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!

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The theory of evolution should not be taught in any science class let alone in high school. The theory of evolution is a mathematically irrational belief system.

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Look at these science geeks now says all the books are wrong and we are right.

Yup good for you guys.

Fact is the word still means.

All that is known and postulated.

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Yes, KJV, those are all current definitions. That does not mean that they cannot change or that they will not change. The people who really decide the correct use of these words are Cosmologists. You are not the one that gets to decide how to use the word correctly, nor am I. If they change it, for defensible reasons of course, then the word changes.

Remember how Pluto is no longer a planet? Do you know why they decided to "demote" Pluto?

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They are current.
ALL known and postulated matter, space, and energy.
u·ni·verse
/ˈyo͞onəˌvərs/
Noun
All existing matter and space considered as a whole; the cosmos.
u·ni·verse (yn-vûrs)
n.
1. All matter and energy, including the earth, the galaxies, and the contents of intergalactic space, regarded as a whole.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/_/dict.aspx...
Main Entry: uni·verse
Pronunciation:\ˈyü-nə-ˌvə rs\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Latin universum, from neuter ofuniversus entire, whole, from uni-+versus turned toward, from past participle of vertere to turn — more at worth
Date: 14th century
1 : the whole body of things and phenomena observed or postulated :
http://i.word.com/idictionary/universe
universe[ yoo-nuh-vurs ]
noun
1. the totality of known or supposed objects and phenomena throughout space; the cosmos; macrocosm.
http://m.dictionary.com/d/...
Definition of universein English
universe
Syllabification:(u·ni·verse)
Pronunciation:/ˈyo͞onəˌvə rs/
Translate universe | into French | into German |into Italian | into Spanish
noun
(the universe)
all existing matter and space considered as a whole; the cosmos.
http://oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/a...
universe science definition
Listen See in ThesaurusSee in a sentence
The totality of matter, energy, and space, including the Solar System, the galaxies, and the contents of the space between the galaxies. Current theories ofcosmology suggest that the universe is constantly expanding.
http://science.yourdictionary.com/

A definition of a word in a dictionary is, per se, not current.

At best it is only slightly lagging.

In this instance quoting the dictionary is only a distraction from the issue and does not solve it. What is the basis for how we use the this or any other word?

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Duuuh which way did he go George. Definitions for 400 Alex.
They absolutely define the usage of the word, as well as its context you fruking moron.

No, they don't.

But I would not expect you to understand.

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to understand decay, yes. But the actual decay is just probability and statistics.
That's why I provided the link that explains it, it's not something you can easily explain in a post.

https://www.khanacademy.org/science/chemistry...

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