Should evolution be taught in high sc...

Should evolution be taught in high school?

There are 180300 comments on the www.scientificblogging.com story from Feb 24, 2008, titled Should evolution be taught in high school?. In it, www.scientificblogging.com reports that:

Microbiologist Carl Woese is well known as an iconoclast. At 79 years of age, Woese is still shaking things up. Most recently, he stated in an interview with Wired that...

"My feeling is that evolution shouldn't be taught at the lower grades. You don't teach quantum mechanics in the grade schools. One has to be quite educated to work with these concepts; what they pass on as evolution in high schools is nothing but repetitious tripe that teachers don't understand."

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Since: Aug 07

Arlington, VA

#135407 Jun 13, 2013
LowellGuy wrote:
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Goofing on your religious beliefs is just recreational. All the evidence demonstrates evolution to be valid scientific theory. Your fairy tale nonsense is deserving of mockery for entirely separate reasons.
"All the evidence" myass. You don't have a single scrap of evidence.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#135408 Jun 13, 2013
Believer wrote:
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Well, why aren't you and your other pathetically fanatical evolutionist worldview cronies making that clear to those who obviously think you are trying to remove any reference to God or the Bible from our public schools.
It was never allowed in in the first place. At least the moment the First Amendment was ratified in the senate. The USA is a secular country and has been since it was founded. That still does not stop you from believing any religion you wish and make all the churches you want. Your fears that turning the US into a secular nation (which it always has been) will take away all your precious Bibles is the height of paranoia.

“Pissing people off since 1949”

Since: Apr 08

Seffner, FL

#135409 Jun 13, 2013
LowellGuy wrote:
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That's because America is not a simple democracy. It's a constitutional republic with democratic leanings. It's like calling a steak a meatloaf. Sure, they're kind of related, but they're definitely not the same thing.
Also, you're a dick.
I believe that would have to be 'dickette'.

:-)

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#135410 Jun 13, 2013
Believer wrote:
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Do you even know the definition of a DEMOCRACY? The problem is that even in a democracy we don't always get what we vote for. This is true even if your candidate of choice won. I think by allowing this type of disrespectful conversation to continue to slide down the slippery slope is not helping anyone.
The U.S. is not a democracy, thank the FSM.

A very important part of the Constitution that many creationists want to ignore is the Bill of Rights. The Bill of Rights preserves minority rights even with majority rule.

A short history lesson. Even the Bill of Rights can be changed. Yes, if you really love your religion so much that you think it would be best to cram it down students throats at school you could attempt to reinstate school prayer and religion at schools. It is simple. Get a bill ratified by 2/3 majority vote in BOTH houses of congress. Then get this bill ratified by 3/4 of all states. You only need a simple majority in each state. You don't even have to kick Obama out of office to accomplish this since the President is nothing but a cheer leader for one side or the other when it comes to amendments.

Frankly, I believe that the overwhelming support that you think that you have will quickly disappear when you try to do this.

“Pissing people off since 1949”

Since: Apr 08

Seffner, FL

#135411 Jun 13, 2013
Urban Cowboy wrote:
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"All the evidence" myass. You don't have a single scrap of evidence.
Ah! There's the Urb we all know and love. Don't argue the evidence. Pretend it doesn't exist. Brilliant strategy.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#135412 Jun 13, 2013
Urban Cowboy wrote:
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"All the evidence" myass. You don't have a single scrap of evidence.
Your finest rebuttal Urb.

“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#135413 Jun 13, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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Nope. Science, evolution included doesn't reference your religion at all. Not even yours. Your post is azzbackwards.

HTS doesn't fly like the normal ducks.

“What, me worry?”

Since: Mar 09

I'm a racist caricature!

#135414 Jun 13, 2013
Urban Cowboy wrote:
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"All the evidence" myass. You don't have a single scrap of evidence.
Denying reality doesn't change reality. Either there's a global anti-Bible conspiracy, or you're full of shit. Which is the more likely scenario?
HTS

Englewood, CO

#135415 Jun 13, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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Any, all, or none. How many times do you need to be told that it's not whether DNA has function is a prediction of common ancestry, but the pattern of inheritance before you actually address what is presented instead of your eternal straw-men?
But yeah, you're right - creo websites are clueless liars.(shrug)
You have no concept of science or mathematics if you adopt such an asinine position.
You're like the bulk of the evo-morons, imagining that's given millions of years, that proverbial monkey will type Shakespeare.

Listen to what one of your own brainless stooges said. D.V. Ager, a recognized authority in paleontology, wrote,

"Personally, given the resources of geological time, I feel confident that sooner or later that hypothetical chimpanzee sitting at a typewriter, will one day type Hamlet."

(Ager D.V., "The New Catastrophism: The Importance of the Rare Event in Geological History," Cambridge University Press: Cambridge UK, 1993, p.149).

Since: Aug 07

Arlington, VA

#135416 Jun 13, 2013
LowellGuy wrote:
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Denying reality doesn't change reality. Either there's a global anti-Bible conspiracy, or you're full of shit. Which is the more likely scenario?
Uh, your premise is wrong(again). It's neither. It's just a failed theory. It happens. Get over it.

“What, me worry?”

Since: Mar 09

I'm a racist caricature!

#135417 Jun 13, 2013
HTS wrote:
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You have no concept of science or mathematics if you adopt such an asinine position.
You're like the bulk of the evo-morons, imagining that's given millions of years, that proverbial monkey will type Shakespeare.
Listen to what one of your own brainless stooges said. D.V. Ager, a recognized authority in paleontology, wrote,
"Personally, given the resources of geological time, I feel confident that sooner or later that hypothetical chimpanzee sitting at a typewriter, will one day type Hamlet."
(Ager D.V., "The New Catastrophism: The Importance of the Rare Event in Geological History," Cambridge University Press: Cambridge UK, 1993, p.149).
Science doesn't recognize anybody as an authority, therefore nobody gives a shit what D. V. Ager, or anybody else, says. Evidence or GTFO.

Since: Aug 07

Arlington, VA

#135418 Jun 13, 2013
MikeF wrote:
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Ah! There's the Urb we all know and love. Don't argue the evidence. Pretend it doesn't exist. Brilliant strategy.
Liar.

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#135419 Jun 13, 2013
HTS wrote:
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You have no concept of science or mathematics if you adopt such an asinine position.
You're like the bulk of the evo-morons, imagining that's given millions of years, that proverbial monkey will type Shakespeare.
Listen to what one of your own brainless stooges said. D.V. Ager, a recognized authority in paleontology, wrote,
"Personally, given the resources of geological time, I feel confident that sooner or later that hypothetical chimpanzee sitting at a typewriter, will one day type Hamlet."
(Ager D.V., "The New Catastrophism: The Importance of the Rare Event in Geological History," Cambridge University Press: Cambridge UK, 1993, p.149).
Two points, first HST what is the rule for creatards posting supposed quotes?

Second, we have had monkeys write out all of Shakespeare. Or do you keep forgetting that too?

“Pissing people off since 1949”

Since: Apr 08

Seffner, FL

#135420 Jun 13, 2013
HTS wrote:
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You have no concept of science or mathematics if you adopt such an asinine position.
You're like the bulk of the evo-morons, imagining that's given millions of years, that proverbial monkey will type Shakespeare.
Listen to what one of your own brainless stooges said. D.V. Ager, a recognized authority in paleontology, wrote,
"Personally, given the resources of geological time, I feel confident that sooner or later that hypothetical chimpanzee sitting at a typewriter, will one day type Hamlet."
(Ager D.V., "The New Catastrophism: The Importance of the Rare Event in Geological History," Cambridge University Press: Cambridge UK, 1993, p.149).
The above has noting to due with Dude's post. Pattern of inheritance flew right over your little head, didn't it?

“Pissing people off since 1949”

Since: Apr 08

Seffner, FL

#135421 Jun 13, 2013
Urban Cowboy wrote:
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Liar.
Jerkoff.
HTS

Mandan, ND

#135422 Jun 13, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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Two points, first HST what is the rule for creatards posting supposed quotes?
Second, we have had monkeys write out all of Shakespeare. Or do you keep forgetting that too?
You just broke your own rule, SZ...
Where is your reference that Mikey's can toe Shakespeare?
HTS

Mandan, ND

#135423 Jun 13, 2013
LowellGuy wrote:
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Science doesn't recognize anybody as an authority, therefore nobody gives a shit what D. V. Ager, or anybody else, says. Evidence or GTFO.
What a load of BS
Every day you evo-morons are posting how many recognized "scientists" support evolution.
HTS

Mandan, ND

#135424 Jun 13, 2013
MikeF wrote:
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Jerkoff.
Typo...what is your reference that monkeys can type Shakespeare?

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#135425 Jun 13, 2013
HTS wrote:
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You just broke your own rule, SZ...
Where is your reference that Mikey's can toe Shakespeare?
I have posted links to it several times, so no, I did not break my rule.

Do you seriously want to see it again? You know that I have posted it before.
forreal

United States

#135426 Jun 13, 2013
LowellGuy wrote:
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Science doesn't recognize anybody as an authority, therefore nobody gives a shit what D. V. Ager, or anybody else, says. Evidence or GTFO.
Animal Lover, insect lover, germ lover, plant lover, no matter how you look at it Women will always be one of Gods Creation! To bad women arnt as stupid as men and atheists want them to be, that men like you need sex lesson in school!!LOLOLOLOLOLOL

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