Should evolution be taught in high sc...

Should evolution be taught in high school?

There are 180300 comments on the www.scientificblogging.com story from Feb 24, 2008, titled Should evolution be taught in high school?. In it, www.scientificblogging.com reports that:

Microbiologist Carl Woese is well known as an iconoclast. At 79 years of age, Woese is still shaking things up. Most recently, he stated in an interview with Wired that...

"My feeling is that evolution shouldn't be taught at the lower grades. You don't teach quantum mechanics in the grade schools. One has to be quite educated to work with these concepts; what they pass on as evolution in high schools is nothing but repetitious tripe that teachers don't understand."

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Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#129030 May 2, 2013
Russell wrote:
<quoted text>
What is that?
Give me a brief synopsis
I am too stung by the rubbish quality of your links to jump in feet first.... like a moth to a flame
Now Squishy don't lie. You link the worst rubbish quality sites all of all time. You can't get much lower than creatard.com , a site that pretends to do science while openly declaring that they are anti-science.

“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#129031 May 2, 2013
Russell wrote:
<quoted text>
Its not 'my' name calling, Batgirl
Its what you have called yourself...
Why did you do that?
I'll never know..........
How about you choose a nice name like 'Russell'?
What ever blows your skirt up Rrrussell but why would I want ...
an incredibly boring name , of a confirmed liar?

“Darwin was right..of course.”

Since: Jun 11

Evolution is true.....

#129032 May 2, 2013
Russell wrote:
<quoted text>
Where's your evidence for this?
Here's my evidence against you statement
http://augustine1blog.wordpress.com/2013/02/2...
But I don't think you have the power of concentration required for reading an article of this length and depth
Allow me to summarise it for you
..........You're wrong..........
Trash evidence dude
Russell

Adelaide, Australia

#129033 May 2, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
<quoted text>
And if the name of the Tooth Fairy's granddaughter was Connie would that mean that Canada is evidence that the Tooth Fairy?
From this I am now convinced that your dumbness has no bounds

So

You have no idea about the Scriptures

No idea about science

And now confirmed no idea about history either

AND

Despite not knowing NUTHIN'....

You still want to teach me stuff

I have told you before

I already know what 'evidence' is

Its the thing missing from evolutionism
Russell

Adelaide, Australia

#129034 May 2, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
<quoted text>
Now Squishy don't lie. You link the worst rubbish quality sites all of all time. You can't get much lower than creatard.com , a site that pretends to do science while openly declaring that they are anti-science.
How are you Rosa

Time you hop up and offer this rather idiotic slug your seat

His name is Subduction Zone....

Yes......yes....I know Rosa, I know.....

His name is 'mud'

He chose this name himself....go figure

But he insists you have to go...

He's quite bigoted, you see

Sorry
Russell

Adelaide, Australia

#129035 May 2, 2013
thewordofme wrote:
<quoted text>
Trash evidence dude
Are you the varmit that spoke critically about my data source?

Well, I'll have you know, you knave, that her Royal Majesty The Queen of England appreciates my data source on a daily basis

After the Royal ablutions are completed, she says, "Bring me the data source".

And upon provision of the said data source, she diligently peruses the data source whilst imbibing her morning tea and muffin

So, you scoundrel of immense proportions!

What in tarnation will you say next?

“Darwin was right..of course.”

Since: Jun 11

Evolution is true.....

#129036 May 2, 2013
Urban Cowboy wrote:
"I know of no finding in archaeology that’s properly confirmed which is in opposition to the scriptures. The Bible is the most accurate history textbook the world has ever seen."
-Dr. Clifford Wilson, former Director of the Australian Institute of Archaeology
http://creation.com/egyptian-history-and-the-...
What a fool he was.

Here's one for you; the Bible says that roughly 2000 BC God came down from 'heaven' in the 'plains of Shiner'(which is actually an area in Babylonia), and confounded the speech of humans. He supposedly did this because humans were becoming too smart and cooperating too much. This action the theists tell us is when men's speech separated into the thousands of languages we now have on earth.

Trouble is with this lie....is that archaeology has known for many decades that at the time of this Biblical transgression of truth humans were spread ALL over the earth....had been for thousands of years....and I'll bet you anything you want....they were speaking different languages.

The Chinese were making pottery at least 18,000 years ago. The American Indians were exploring All of the areas of the States, maybe 15,000 years ago. Homo-sapiens (us) were painting cave walls in France, Germany, and Spain as far back as 30,000+- years ago.

All the writing in the Bible seems to portray the Middle East as the only place on earth that has people or civilizations. It is the 'tunnel vision' of Arab goat herders and the occasional Rabbi or scholar.

“Darwin was right..of course.”

Since: Jun 11

Evolution is true.....

#129037 May 2, 2013
Russell wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you the varmit that spoke critically about my data source?
Well, I'll have you know, you knave, that her Royal Majesty The Queen of England appreciates my data source on a daily basis
After the Royal ablutions are completed, she says, "Bring me the data source".
And upon provision of the said data source, she diligently peruses the data source whilst imbibing her morning tea and muffin
So, you scoundrel of immense proportions!
What in tarnation will you say next?
Do you have any 'Hard' evidence that the Hebrews were slaves in Egypt?

Do you have any 'Hard' evidence for the crossing of the Sinai desert by a million plus Hebrews....and taking 40 years to do it.?

http://www.beliefnet.com/Faiths/Judaism/2004/...

“Darwin was right..of course.”

Since: Jun 11

Evolution is true.....

#129038 May 2, 2013
Russell wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you the varmit that spoke critically about my data source?
Well, I'll have you know, you knave, that her Royal Majesty The Queen of England appreciates my data source on a daily basis
After the Royal ablutions are completed, she says, "Bring me the data source".
And upon provision of the said data source, she diligently peruses the data source whilst imbibing her morning tea and muffin
So, you scoundrel of immense proportions!
What in tarnation will you say next?
Hey, different topic.

I don't know what adds they display on Topix down under, but here in the states there is a company advertising that they can tell you how much Neanderthal genes/blood you carry by analyzing your DNA....costs $99.00 USD.

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#129039 May 3, 2013
Squishy, you know it is a sin to lie.

And you know that you have no clue about what evidence is.

So Squishy is it a sin to lie for Jesus.
Russell

Adelaide, Australia

#129040 May 3, 2013
thewordofme wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you have any 'Hard' evidence that the Hebrews were slaves in Egypt?
Do you have any 'Hard' evidence for the crossing of the Sinai desert by a million plus Hebrews....and taking 40 years to do it.?
http://www.beliefnet.com/Faiths/Judaism/2004/...
Mate, you have "hard" evidence of nothing!

Please read my data source:

http://creation.com/fall-of-the-sothic-theory...

I refuse to accept any evo-moans and evo-groans about my data source

I will however gladly accept any valid criticisms of my data source

Whereupon I shall engage in debating you regarding the validity of my data source versus your expectedly evo-trash data source

Refusal to accept my data source on the basis of it being from creation.com will result in immediate termination of our debating relationship

As will your running off like a great big cry baby, like you did last time

http://creation.com/fall-of-the-sothic-theory...

This is a start to what may be a useful debate....
starting with your reading my data source

By the way

I had already seen your linked data source

It is outdated and addresses none of the issues addressed in my data source

My data source is therefore better than your data source
Russell

Adelaide, Australia

#129041 May 3, 2013
thewordofme wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey, different topic.
I don't know what adds they display on Topix down under, but here in the states there is a company advertising that they can tell you how much Neanderthal genes/blood you carry by analyzing your DNA....costs $99.00 USD.
Your point?

Checking for human DNA lineages in human DNA

How droll!

And don't try and change the subject

You had better be perusing my data source and stop worrying about Neanderthals for the moment

I am quite certain you are unable to multi-task
Russell

Adelaide, Australia

#129042 May 3, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
Squishy, you know it is a sin to lie.
And you know that you have no clue about what evidence is.
So Squishy is it a sin to lie for Jesus.
Which is why I never lie

Well, Bud, you have no evidence so you want to teach me how not having any evidence can actually translate into pretending that there is evidence

If you have evidence

Let's see it

I will not accept Lenski

Yeast cells clumping together

And your other rubbish that has previously been proferred as evidence for evolution

If nothing is forthcoming...

I will accept your defeat

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#129043 May 3, 2013
Russell wrote:
<quoted text>
How are you Rosa
Time you hop up and offer this rather idiotic slug your seat
His name is Subduction Zone....
Yes......yes....I know Rosa, I know.....
His name is 'mud'
He chose this name himself....go figure
But he insists you have to go...
He's quite bigoted, you see
Sorry
Isn't it cute when the little morons try to do analogies.

Of course Squishy fails as badsly at this as he does at his attempt at science.

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#129044 May 3, 2013
Russell wrote:
<quoted text>
From this I am now convinced that your dumbness has no bounds
So
You have no idea about the Scriptures
No idea about science
And now confirmed no idea about history either
AND
Despite not knowing NUTHIN'....
You still want to teach me stuff
I have told you before
I already know what 'evidence' is
Its the thing missing from evolutionism
Then why have you lost all debates about scripture?

Then why have you lost all debates about science?

Do you want to see if you can go three for three?

Why are you so afraid to learn what is and what is not evidence?

Poor little Squishy.

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#129045 May 3, 2013
Russell wrote:
<quoted text>
Which is why I never lie
Well, Bud, you have no evidence so you want to teach me how not having any evidence can actually translate into pretending that there is evidence
If you have evidence
Let's see it
I will not accept Lenski
Yeast cells clumping together
And your other rubbish that has previously been proferred as evidence for evolution
If nothing is forthcoming...
I will accept your defeat
Bullshit Squishy you lie all of the time. I have evidence but we all know that you are a piece of human excrement and are too afraid to look at it. By the way, Lenski is only the smallest part of my evidence, but by saying you will not accept it you show that you will deny scientific evidence. In other words you just openly admitted that you lie.

Poor little squishy. You don't like scientific evidence do you?

Since: Aug 07

Miami, FL

#129046 May 3, 2013
thewordofme wrote:
<quoted text>
What a fool he was.
Hmm...let me see who the fool really is...Dr. Clifford Wilson, former Director of the Australian Institute of Archaeology, a man a great accomplishment; or some anonymous blogging evotard on the internet? Let's compare accomplishments.

Clifford’s achievements were listed at the Thanksgiving Service as:
* Naval Seaman during World War II
* Missionary to India (see comment added below with detail of his work there)
* First Regional Director of Emmaus Bible College (see comment below for a review of the early history of Emmaus and Clifford’s involvement)
* Hansard Reporter for the Fijian Government
* Pastoral service in Australia and USA
* Passionate supporter of Essendon Football Club (Aussie Rules Football)
* Lecturer at Emmaus Bible College, Melbourne Bible Institute (MBI), New Zealand Bible School, Collumbia Bible College, Pacific College of Graduate Studies, Toorak Teachers College and Monash University (among others)
* Named in America as an outstanding Educator of the Year
* Academic degrees in History, Education, Theology, Divinity and Psycholinguistics (B.A., M.A., B.D., M.R.Ed., Ph.D.)
* Founder of the Word of Truth Ministries and Pacific Ministries
* Radio Broadcaster in Australia, USA and internationally
* Founding President of Pacific College of Graduate Studies and Pacific International University
* Director of the Australian Institute of Archaeology
* Author of approximately 100 books
* Editor and Assistant Editor of New Life Christian Newspaper (Australia)
* Husband to Avis for 54 years
* Father to Bruce, Elaine, David and Lynnette and Father-in-law to Shirley, Alan, Debbie and Greg
* Grandfather to Darren, Debbie, Phil, Michelle, Ray, Bruce, Benj, Dee Dee, Marney, Jabin, Ryan, Brianna and Geordie
* Great grandfather to 23 children
* Husband to Barbara for 12 years
* Friend to ‘millions’

List of accomplishments for "thewordofme":

*(insert first accomplishment here)

“What, me worry?”

Since: Mar 09

I'm a racist caricature!

#129047 May 3, 2013
Russell wrote:
<quoted text>
Does this rant deserve a response?
I don't think so
You obviously know nothing about the Scriptures and what I have pulled from a readily available source has been sufficient to shut you up
Now you're evo-whining....
If churches are asking for donations....try and give something
You may be on the receiving end of charity one day....who knows?
I'm just saying.....
Why do churches need to engage in childhood indoctrination?

Why should someone donate money to an organization that indoctrinates children?

For that matter, why should supernatural beliefs be any part of doing good for other people, or receipt of such charitable work?

Is it only possible to do good things for others if you accept that magic is real?

“What, me worry?”

Since: Mar 09

I'm a racist caricature!

#129048 May 3, 2013
Urban Cowboy wrote:
<quoted text>
Hmm...let me see who the fool really is...Dr. Clifford Wilson, former Director of the Australian Institute of Archaeology, a man a great accomplishment; or some anonymous blogging evotard on the internet? Let's compare accomplishments.
Clifford’s achievements were listed at the Thanksgiving Service as:
* Naval Seaman during World War II
* Missionary to India (see comment added below with detail of his work there)
* First Regional Director of Emmaus Bible College (see comment below for a review of the early history of Emmaus and Clifford’s involvement)
* Hansard Reporter for the Fijian Government
* Pastoral service in Australia and USA
* Passionate supporter of Essendon Football Club (Aussie Rules Football)
* Lecturer at Emmaus Bible College, Melbourne Bible Institute (MBI), New Zealand Bible School, Collumbia Bible College, Pacific College of Graduate Studies, Toorak Teachers College and Monash University (among others)
* Named in America as an outstanding Educator of the Year
* Academic degrees in History, Education, Theology, Divinity and Psycholinguistics (B.A., M.A., B.D., M.R.Ed., Ph.D.)
* Founder of the Word of Truth Ministries and Pacific Ministries
* Radio Broadcaster in Australia, USA and internationally
* Founding President of Pacific College of Graduate Studies and Pacific International University
* Director of the Australian Institute of Archaeology
* Author of approximately 100 books
* Editor and Assistant Editor of New Life Christian Newspaper (Australia)
* Husband to Avis for 54 years
* Father to Bruce, Elaine, David and Lynnette and Father-in-law to Shirley, Alan, Debbie and Greg
* Grandfather to Darren, Debbie, Phil, Michelle, Ray, Bruce, Benj, Dee Dee, Marney, Jabin, Ryan, Brianna and Geordie
* Great grandfather to 23 children
* Husband to Barbara for 12 years
* Friend to ‘millions’
List of accomplishments for "thewordofme":
*(insert first accomplishment here)
Oh, I'm sorry...I didn't see anything about how he became an expert on God. Maybe I missed it in that ridiculous "CV," academic achievements notwithstanding.

And, remind me...what, other than intellectual integrity, prevents a religious fundamentalist from having great academic achievements, and what role, if any, does fundamentalist religiosity have in doing so (outside of places like Liberty University)?

“What, me worry?”

Since: Mar 09

I'm a racist caricature!

#129049 May 3, 2013
Russell wrote:
<quoted text>
From this I am now convinced that your dumbness has no bounds
So
You have no idea about the Scriptures
No idea about science
And now confirmed no idea about history either
AND
Despite not knowing NUTHIN'....
You still want to teach me stuff
I have told you before
I already know what 'evidence' is
Its the thing missing from evolutionism
Aren't you the one who, when presented scientific evidence, declares it to not be scientific evidence?

What is the scientific method (in your own words, not a quote from elsewhere), and why is it effective at yielding useful explanatory models for reality? How does that differ from "the Bible says it, I believe it, and that settles it?"

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