Should evolution be taught in high sc...

Should evolution be taught in high school?

There are 179619 comments on the www.scientificblogging.com story from Feb 24, 2008, titled Should evolution be taught in high school?. In it, www.scientificblogging.com reports that:

Microbiologist Carl Woese is well known as an iconoclast. At 79 years of age, Woese is still shaking things up. Most recently, he stated in an interview with Wired that...

"My feeling is that evolution shouldn't be taught at the lower grades. You don't teach quantum mechanics in the grade schools. One has to be quite educated to work with these concepts; what they pass on as evolution in high schools is nothing but repetitious tripe that teachers don't understand."

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“Pissing people off since 1949”

Since: Apr 08

Seffner, FL

#103912 Oct 8, 2012
Urban Cowboy wrote:
Evidence that Neanderthals lived hundreds of years:
"As noted earlier, Cuozzo showed by his X-ray studies of Neanderthal skulls that these were people who must have lived for hundreds of years (Cuozzo 1998a). Not only that, his computerized modeling of skull changes with age predicted development of exactly the kind of characteristics that these Neanderthal skulls displayed (Cuozzo 1998b). This meant that there had to have been some very, very old people somewhere in our history."
http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/arj/...
BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

“Pissing people off since 1949”

Since: Apr 08

Seffner, FL

#103913 Oct 8, 2012
Psychology wrote:
So where does earth get its energy from?
head/desk

“Pissing people off since 1949”

Since: Apr 08

Seffner, FL

#103914 Oct 8, 2012
Urban Cowboy wrote:
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Lucy was an ape. Next?
http://creationwiki.org/Australopithecus_afar...
We're all apes, dummy.

“Pissing people off since 1949”

Since: Apr 08

Seffner, FL

#103915 Oct 8, 2012
Urban Cowboy wrote:
Haldane (1957) calculated that it would take 300 generations to select a single new mutation to fixation. This is called Haldane's dilemma because it is too slow for any macroevolution to be feasible. At this rate you can only fix 1,000 unlinked nucleotide mutations in 6 million years, the supposed time humans diverged from chimps.
This simple fact was confirmed by Crow and Kimura (1970) and ReMine (1993,2005). This is less information than is in this comment (if it were 333 characters long). There is no way possible for this tiny amount of information to turn an ape into a human. And this is only for independent, unlinked mutations. Selection for 1,000 specific and adjancent mutations could not arise in 6 billion years. And the more nucleotides under selection, the slower the progress.
We know that man and chimp differ by about 150 million nucleotide positions due to at least 40 million hypothetical mutations (Britten, 2002). Therefore if man evolved from ape, there must have been 20 million nucleotide fixations. But natural selection could only account for 1,000, that means all the rest must have been fixed by genetic drift. That's 19,999,000 deleterious mutations and 1,000 beneficial ones, which of course would obviously have killed us.
This is based on Sanford's Genetic Entropy, Pages 128-130.
Nah. http://www.gate.net/~rwms/haldane1.html

Even Haldane figured out he was wrong.

Since: Aug 07

United States

#103917 Oct 8, 2012
MikeF wrote:
<quoted text>
We're all apes, dummy.
Prove it.

Since: Aug 07

United States

#103918 Oct 8, 2012
MikeF wrote:
<quoted text>
Nah. http://www.gate.net/~rwms/haldane1.html
Even Haldane figured out he was wrong.
Evotarded propaganda doesn't count as evidence.

Since: Aug 07

United States

#103919 Oct 8, 2012
What did apes evolve from? And what did that evolve from? And that? And that? And that? Ha ha ha! Dummies!

Since: Aug 07

United States

#103920 Oct 8, 2012
Isn't it telling that no ape can speak a single word of language? And that's after a lifetime of learning with humans? But parrots can!

Since: Aug 07

United States

#103921 Oct 8, 2012
MikeF wrote:
<quoted text>
BWAHAHAHAHAHA!
No really, it makes sense. The older you get, the more you start looking like like a neanderthal. Can you imagine what we'd look like if we lived hundreds of years? This guy does brilliant research and you don't appreciate it because it threatens your ideology. Pity. Stay stupid.

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Since: Apr 08

Seffner, FL

#103922 Oct 8, 2012
Urban Cowboy wrote:
<quoted text>
Prove it.
Asked and answered. Do try to keep up.

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Since: Apr 08

Seffner, FL

#103923 Oct 8, 2012
Urban Cowboy wrote:
<quoted text>
Creationist propaganda doesn't count as evidence.
FIFY

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Since: Apr 08

Seffner, FL

#103924 Oct 8, 2012
Urban Cowboy wrote:
What did apes evolve from? And what did that evolve from? And that? And that? And that? Ha ha ha! Dummies!
Late night, Urb?

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Since: Apr 08

Seffner, FL

#103925 Oct 8, 2012
Urban Cowboy wrote:
Isn't it telling that no ape can speak a single word of language? And that's after a lifetime of learning with humans? But parrots can!
Physical limitation. Dun.

“Pissing people off since 1949”

Since: Apr 08

Seffner, FL

#103926 Oct 8, 2012
Urban Cowboy wrote:
<quoted text>
No really, it makes sense. The older you get, the more you start looking like like a neanderthal. Can you imagine what we'd look like if we lived hundreds of years? This guy does brilliant research and you don't appreciate it because it threatens your ideology. Pity. Stay stupid.
You and a dentist. Impressive.

{{{snicker}}}

Since: Aug 07

United States

#103927 Oct 8, 2012
MikeF wrote:
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You and a dentist. Impressive.
{{{snicker}}}
What is that supposed to mean? You're just going to mock him simply because he doesn't agree with your beliefs? Cuozzo is a brilliant, successful doctor, author, and paleontology researcher.

http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/bio...
Shakespeare

Salyersville, KY

#103928 Oct 8, 2012
Evolution shouldn't be taught ,Period !! It has absolutely no solid foundation but is based on a few fragments of "speculation"
Creation teachings on the other hand is based on what we see.

“I am Sisyphus”

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#103929 Oct 8, 2012
monkey for evonuts wrote:
<quoted text>Why?such a lame reply, in other words you don't have an answer because is so complicated for the ego scientist brain to explain simple even microscopic single celled organisms-are incredibly complex.there is no proof that any kind of life has ever arisen by chance or ever could.rather all living things bear unmistakable evidence of design by an intelligence far greater than our own. Something so complex as how nothing,dust(non-living matter) came to exist and become living organisms.

What an ignorant reply. You were given a lucid understanding of how science basically works and you respond with tidbits of nonsense. You clearly have not read anything on abiogenesis so you go with your creation myths. That is fine for you.

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#103930 Oct 8, 2012
Urban Cowboy wrote:
What did apes evolve from? And what did that evolve from? And that? And that? And that? Ha ha ha! Dummies!
Oh noes!! Urban Cowflop has been learning debating techniques from forreal. Oh well I guess there is only one way to beat this point.

Ha! You are an even Biggier Dummy LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!

“Pissing people off since 1949”

Since: Apr 08

Seffner, FL

#103931 Oct 8, 2012
Urban Cowboy wrote:
<quoted text>
What is that supposed to mean? You're just going to mock him simply because he doesn't agree with your beliefs? Cuozzo is a brilliant, successful doctor, author, and paleontology researcher.
http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/bio...
No. Because he doesn't agree with the consensus of scientists who are experts on the subject. My 'beliefs' are immaterial.

And Answers in Genesis is the weakest possible support to offer.

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#103932 Oct 8, 2012
Shakespeare wrote:
Evolution shouldn't be taught ,Period !! It has absolutely no solid foundation but is based on a few fragments of "speculation"
Creation teachings on the other hand is based on what we see.
Thanks, I needed to start off the day with a good laugh.

Yes, we never see evolution. We don't see it in the lab, we don't see it in the field, we don't see it in the fossil record. Yet we see god walking down the street every day going -poof- daisy,-poof- puppy,-poof- deadly ebola virus,-POOOOF- huge Blue Whale, God sits down and pants for a few seconds and then starts walking and poofing again.

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