Wind-energy developers win break
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#1 Jun 23, 2010
Artificially-created economic "development", you've got to love it!
Saint Paul, MN
#2 Jun 23, 2010
In other words, MISO justy caved to enviromentals and hid part of the true cost of wind energy.
They just acted contrary to their charter since MISO's main goals are to ensure reliability and properly allocate the costs of transmission.
It's better to have good lawyers than a good arguement these days.
Saint Paul, MN
#3 Jun 23, 2010
But wind developers complained the share would have made their projects uneconomical compared with projects outside of the Midwest system. Wind farm developers said they would give up working in states like Minnesota, the Dakotas and Iowa and move projects to states like Kansas with more favorable cost-sharing plans.
In a roundabout way they admit their products are uneconomical and they can't get of the ground without favoritism and other peoples money. The money spent will NEVER be recovered on wind and solar products that cost an arm and a leg to produce unreliable and inefficient forms of energy. I always get a kick out of the rich liberals who say they are off or almost off the grid..... they never say how much they had to spend and how many decades it will take for them to break even if they ever do or can.
#4 Jun 23, 2010
I like to break wind.
#5 Jun 23, 2010
Foreign energy firms getting windfall of U.S. stimulus funds
Of the more than $2 billion the federal government has given out to boost the economy and create green-energy jobs, more than three-quarters has gone to foreign-owned companies that dominate the global wind-power industry.
This latest finding by the Investigative Reporting Workshop, a nonprofit at American University in Washington, D.C., is illustrated clearly in San Diego County, where about a dozen commercial wind developers have offices.
La Jolla is the headquarters for Eurus Energy America, the subsidiary of a Japanese firm that received $91 million in federal stimulus money for a wind farm in western Texas. It plans to apply for more money to fund a wind project in Oregon.
EnXco, a French-owned firm with American headquarters in Escondido, has received $69.5 million in stimulus money for its wind farm in Indiana. It installed 53 German-made turbines at the site. EnXco also is operating the Texas wind farm for Eurus.
A-Power Energy Generation Systems, a Chinese-owned company that might get federal grants through a consortium building a wind farm in western Texas, lists a vacant office in downtown San Diego as its U.S. address on recent filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission.
Cannon Power Group of San Diego has received $19 million to expand a wind farm east of Portland in Washington. The company spent about half of that money overseas to pay for wind turbines it said it couldnt get stateside.
I know what, lets build a small power generating plant next to each windmill to generate the power to run the heaters to melt the snow off the solar cells to heat the oil to allow the windmill to run.......and the green grass grew all around, all around, and the green grass grew all around.
#6 Jun 23, 2010
We have here an assortment of "Flat Earthers" (led by Owl Gore)with posts that reflect their belief that carbon neutral, renewable energy sources are to be scorned under any circumstance. To them, fossil fuel technologies of the last century should be stubbornly expanded despite contributing to atmospheric carbon dioxide, mercury, and sulfides. And nuclear, with it's history of massive subsidies, cost overruns, and dangerous waste should also be favored. What is it with these people? Renewable energy is most useful in shaving the costs of buying power on the spot markets during periods of peak power consumption during the summer. We understand that at this stage in its evolution that it isn't a totally reliable 24/7 power source. When wind and solar energy can be 'banked' for when it is needed later, those technologies will reach their maturity. Yet, the flat earthers absolutely froth at the mouth when renewables are mentioned. Undoubtedly, their forebears were similarly incensed when radio threatened to doom the telegraph.
#7 Jul 11, 2010
I hope Ed Garvey recused himself on this vote. He was a Commissioner on the PUC. Then he created the MN Commerce's Office of Energy Security, wrote the MN Renewable Energy Standard and shepherded it through the legislature. Then he went to lobby for the wind industry at WeberJohnson lobbying firm. He sits on the MISO Board.
This isn't about renewable energy. It's about money. Chiefly a transfer of yours/ours to a few private individuals.
Oh look! Texas billionaire T. Boone Pickens owns AWA Goodhue Wind. His lawyer is Christine Brusven at Fredrickson and Byron. She used to be Ed's Special Assistant at Commerce. Fred Law's lobbiest? WeberJohnson.
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