U.S. to join lawsuit against Lance Ar...

U.S. to join lawsuit against Lance Armstrong

There are 44 comments on the The Washington Post story from Feb 22, 2013, titled U.S. to join lawsuit against Lance Armstrong. In it, The Washington Post reports that:

The Justice Department has decided to join a whistleblower lawsuit against disgraced cyclist Lance Armstrong, a lawyer for Armstrong, Robert Luskin, said Friday.

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“Stop the Brain Rot”

Since: Jan 12

Take a Looonng Vacation

#1 Feb 22, 2013
Of course he must be sued and taxpayer dollars recovered. He shouldn't be allowed to get away with cheating and winning massive price money and endorsements on the taxpayer nickel.

SUE the bahhhastahhhd!:)
carcinoma

Wellsboro, PA

#2 Feb 22, 2013
Take his other nut!
Lance Armsteroid

Junction City, KS

#3 Feb 22, 2013
From hero to villain with the push of a needle.

Since: Mar 09

The Left Coast

#4 Feb 22, 2013
tha Professor wrote:
Of course he must be sued and taxpayer dollars recovered. He shouldn't be allowed to get away with cheating and winning massive price money and endorsements on the taxpayer nickel.
SUE the bahhhastahhhd!:)
Come on, give him a break, he's a liberal.
My Opinion_El Paso_Texas

United States

#5 Feb 22, 2013
Oh! You guys must have been those who voted that Washington, DC, administration back into office.
Drumroll

Falkirk, UK

#6 Feb 22, 2013
This will a very interesting case if it comes to fruition. Calls here and everywhere Elaine to sue Armstrong for fraud basically because he was the talisman but that is not how the legal system will see it.

Who did USPS enter into contract with?

The answer is something we all know but not who we're the stakeholders! Was Armstrong one? If not how can he commit fraud when part of a team that provided a doping culture. If he is not a stakeholder he is a rider like Landis. This was the major sticking point before that they did not believe they could tie him in, maybe that's changed?

USADA calling for a criminal investigation doesn't help as it just supports Armstrong claims of a witch hunt. People need to appreciate that USADA are the same standing as the local builder ie and independent company and not a government agency!

If it was vague enough before is it clearer now or do we have less political pressure now?

I hope it does go to court as it shall be interesting and fun to see how it works out which may be like OJ a surprise! A great test case that may even cause USADA/WADA longer term problems.

Lets see what happens as all we have just now is journos assuming that Armstrong Lawyers mean action but the DOJ need to comment and this will cost a LOT money and if Armstrong is accepted as NOT a stakeholder he could up with a lot if money.

Fun ahead.

My Opinion_El Paso_Texas

United States

#8 Feb 23, 2013
Drumroll wrote:
This will a very interesting case if it comes to fruition. Calls here and everywhere Elaine to sue Armstrong for fraud basically because he was the talisman but that is not how the legal system will see it.
Who did USPS enter into contract with?
The answer is something we all know but not who we're the stakeholders! Was Armstrong one? If not how can he commit fraud when part of a team that provided a doping culture. If he is not a stakeholder he is a rider like Landis. This was the major sticking point before that they did not believe they could tie him in, maybe that's changed?
USADA calling for a criminal investigation doesn't help as it just supports Armstrong claims of a witch hunt. People need to appreciate that USADA are the same standing as the local builder ie and independent company and not a government agency!
If it was vague enough before is it clearer now or do we have less political pressure now?
I hope it does go to court as it shall be interesting and fun to see how it works out which may be like OJ a surprise! A great test case that may even cause USADA/WADA longer term problems.
Lets see what happens as all we have just now is journos assuming that Armstrong Lawyers mean action but the DOJ need to comment and this will cost a LOT money and if Armstrong is accepted as NOT a stakeholder he could up with a lot if money.
Fun ahead.
Drumrool, if you look through the cycling forums at Cyclingnews and at the Daily Peleton, I believe that you may find your answer in reference to Lance Armstrong and the USPS. You can probably also find that answer in Lance Armstrong's biography as well. You must remember that he was a business partner who sponsored his own cycling team. I just don't completely remember the time frame.

But, I would have thought that you were already up on that info being a cyclist who competes as well.

Cheers
Drumroll

Falkirk, UK

#9 Feb 23, 2013
It appears you suggest he was an owner of the Team sponsored by USPS?

Can you share that as it does not appear anywhere but it would be useful to see!

IF he was why did the DOJ not go after him? Possibly because they could not prove that, something along the lines as expressed at the time of the investigation that was shelved.

A clear distinction is made between owner and employee and if you have proof he was an owner it should be shared.

I look forward to your reply!
DENG

Nanjing, China

#10 Feb 23, 2013
SO WHY IS LANCE HATED SO MUCH WHEN ALL THE BICYCLISTS CHEATED AND WERE DOPED???
Lance Armsteroid

Junction City, KS

#11 Feb 23, 2013
DENG wrote:
SO WHY IS LANCE HATED SO MUCH WHEN ALL THE BICYCLISTS CHEATED AND WERE DOPED???
Because Lance lied, denied and sued people that made the accusations. He then went on Oprah and admitted he had lied and turned up some phony tears to get some sympathy. He made millions off of his lies and thinks he should be allowed to keep his money. He's a piece of trash of the lowest order.
Regis le cycliste

Saint-nazaire-de-p├ęzan, France

#12 Feb 24, 2013
Lance Armsteroid wrote:
From hero to villain with the push of a needle.
My favourite American knew this years ago!!!! As did all thinking sportsmen.

.
My Opinion_El Paso_Texas

El Paso, TX

#13 Feb 24, 2013
Drumroll wrote:
1. It appears you suggest he was an owner of the Team sponsored by USPS?
2. Can you share that as it does not appear anywhere but it would be useful to see!
3. IF he was why did the DOJ not go after him? Possibly because they could not prove that, something along the lines as expressed at the time of the investigation that was shelved.
4. A clear distinction is made between owner and employee and if you have proof he was an owner it should be shared.
I look forward to your reply!
1. It appears that you need to reread what I wrote as you didn't comprehand it correctly.

2. Yes, go check the cycling forums at Cyclingnews and at the Daily Peleton as you'll find everything that you need just as many of us did here when we were researching and keeping up with cycling news.

3. You can always ask the US Attorney who was in charge of the federal case yourself. Good luck considering that he hasn't given out a public public explanation so far. But, maybe the USADA or Travis Tygart have an idea. You can email them from the USADA web page.

4. Again, all the proof you need is both in the cycling forums that I pointed you to and also in the USADA case file, which is shown on the USADA web page. Feel free to look for yourself.

See Drumroll, I was happy to share with you and provided you with all the information that you require. All you need to do is pick your way on the keyboard and you can find everything that you need.

I hope you enjoy the reading as much as I did. I certainly learned a lot from the various cyclists who shared their expierences and backrgrounds in both cycling and the sciences that are involved in all of those issues of sport endurence and drug testing.

Cheers
My Opinion_El Paso_Texas

El Paso, TX

#14 Feb 24, 2013
DENG wrote:
SO WHY IS LANCE HATED SO MUCH WHEN ALL THE BICYCLISTS CHEATED AND WERE DOPED???
The main reason is related to the way Lance Armstrong reacted to anyone daring to accuse him of doping as he bullied them and in many cases also sued them in court as well.

He eventually became his own worst enemy.

Hope that helps.

Cheers
My Opinion_El Paso_Texas

El Paso, TX

#15 Feb 24, 2013
Regis le cycliste wrote:
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My favourite American knew this years ago!!!! As did all thinking sportsmen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =tlTr2GSVUGgXX.
Wish they would have a TV channel that would reshow George Carlin. He was great.

Cheers
Drumroll

Falkirk, UK

#16 Feb 24, 2013
El Paso thanks for altering my post before re-posting it!

Forums for facts is not offering facts just opinions, is it not!

Ask DOJ in charge of the federal case is impossible for the simple reason that as we post there is no case! That is the point I was making but you appear to have overlooked that fact!

Ask USADA/Tygart who have no dealings whatsoever in US Government matters as they are, as I have said before, a private company.
Is this something that you are not aware of?

We have different outlooks on how to determine facts, you prefer forums and I prefer to hear it from those actually involved.

“Stop the Brain Rot”

Since: Jan 12

Take a Looonng Vacation

#17 Feb 25, 2013
RustyS wrote:
<quoted text>
Come on, give him a break, he's a liberal.
1. No, he's not.

2. Why would that get him a break?

3. You're a partisan troll asshat.

“Stop the Brain Rot”

Since: Jan 12

Take a Looonng Vacation

#18 Feb 25, 2013
DuNG wrote:
SO WHY IS LANCE HATED SO MUCH WHEN ALL THE BICYCLISTS CHEATED AND WERE DOPED???
A Han propagandist who lies for a living wouldn't be able to understand, sorry.
My Opinion_El Paso_Texas

El Paso, TX

#19 Feb 26, 2013
Drumroll wrote:
1. El Paso thanks for altering my post before re-posting it!
2. Forums for facts is not offering facts just opinions, is it not!
3. Ask DOJ in charge of the federal case is impossible for the simple reason that as we post there is no case! That is the point I was making but you appear to have overlooked that fact!
4. Ask USADA/Tygart who have no dealings whatsoever in US Government matters as they are, as I have said before, a private company.
Is this something that you are not aware of?
5. We have different outlooks on how to determine facts, you prefer forums and I prefer to hear it from those actually involved.
1. I'm not able to alter any of your posts Drumroll. You might also proofread what you're writing here before you actually post it, so that I and others can understand you.

2. The two cycling forums that I referred you to actaually do and will provide you the information that you were asking about in relation to Lance Armstrong as there are many cyclists who know all that information and it's recored in the rerlated time frames. So, don't go tap dancing here with pathertic excuses as I'm not going to do the work do you.

I have taken the time in reading it for my own understanding, but I don't remember if perfectively and I already explained that to you.

3. I was referring to the first federal case where the Federal Attorney there in California closed the case as that was what I understood from you in the first place. So, if that wasn't what you were referring to, then I suggest that you try proof reading what you're writing and posting before you actually post.

4. Actually the USADA has a lot of dealings with the federal government and with the Dept of Justice just as the workings that go on within the United Kingdom as well. And I know that because we have family there in England, with some of them working in the government.

You can ask questions of the USADA because they have a link, "Contact US" there on their web site and they do respond back. So, quit with your tap dancing excusaes and do you won research.

The USADA is not a private company as they do receive federal tax paying dollars as well!

5. Then you are not attaing any more facts then anyone else is because you're not involved in any of the Lance Armstrong or Floyd Landis cases along with anything related to doping in the sport of cycling anymore then anyone else is.

Any information that I provide here is just the same info as anyone else provides anywhere on any of the forums as we all read the same resouces providing the same information.

So, once again your argument here is again without merit.

As you do not know me personally, you have no real idea what my outlooks are. And as for your wanting to attains facts, then you really need to understand how to psychologically and sociologically attain those facts as you just screwed up your own point here.

Cheers
My Opinion_El Paso_Texas

El Paso, TX

#20 Feb 26, 2013
tha Professor wrote:
<quoted text>
A Han propagandist who lies for a living wouldn't be able to understand, sorry.
Nicely Put!
Drumroll

Falkirk, UK

#21 Feb 26, 2013
EP I did not number my post but you did hence altering it!

2.No fats
3. No facts
4. USADA NOT a government agency and any dealings they have can prejudice cases as a non-federal organisation. Microsoft has as much right as USADA to federal information.
5. LA case has had no exchange of evidence just a report written. His own admission is the most factual reflectin of events as he has made the comments himself, but people have the right not to believe him if they so wish.
FL matters have been in and out of court so far more facts available on that and he has also made self confessions and again people can decide if they believe him or not.

I dont know you and only referenced that you refer to forums to substantiate your comments and I dont. You also dont know me other than what I say here and feel free to judge all you want it makes no difference as I will always deal in facts not rumour and suggestion.

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