NM Locals Worry Over Possible Radiati...

NM Locals Worry Over Possible Radiation Exposure

There are 16 comments on the KOAT.com story from Mar 18, 2011, titled NM Locals Worry Over Possible Radiation Exposure. In it, KOAT.com reports that:

Worries about radiation exposure have reached all the way to New Mexico as Japan struggles to get control of its nuclear reactor.

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ZIAmouth

Albuquerque, NM

#1 Mar 18, 2011
HUH!!! These must be the fruitcakes running out and buying iodine tablets.

The amounts that reach the US are in such small amounts they pose no threat. Maybe X-ray machines need to post their radiation dosage rates so people have some perspective.
Dovey

Albuquerque, NM

#2 Mar 18, 2011
These chicken littles engorged with mainstream media propaganda cry that sky is falling while they are being scammed and three card montied by the democrat communist union environmental homosexualist thugs. Sad but true.
CornDogz

Albuquerque, NM

#3 Mar 18, 2011
ZIAmouth wrote:
HUH!!! These must be the fruitcakes running out and buying iodine tablets.
The amounts that reach the US are in such small amounts they pose no threat. Maybe X-ray machines need to post their radiation dosage rates so people have some perspective.
Someone will probably whine about 'iodine poisoning' or ODing on them before long and file a lawsuit<sigh>... More personal irresponsibility!
ZIAmouth

Albuquerque, NM

#4 Mar 19, 2011
This was sent to me by a relative. I'm no fan of Ann Coulter but she brings up an interesting spin on radiation - benefits of radiation exposure

http://www.thehopeforamerica.com/play.php...
Passive Observer

AOL

#5 Mar 19, 2011
I'd say New Mexicans have more to worry about due to contamination by Los Alamos National Laboratories dumping stuff over decades; federal contractors who have scattered crap all over the state; entities like Intel which use the water and release pollutants into it and the air; ABCWUA which recently discharged raw sewage into the river and killed thousands of fish; and RADON, which leaks into homes from the ground. In marketing, there are 3 basic strategies used to promote spending and rake in the profits: Encourage FEAR, GREED AND VANITY, and those old boys are laughing all the way to the bank to the sound of ca-ching while New Mexicans and others pee away their money on Potassium Iodine, Geiger Counters, etc.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#6 Mar 19, 2011
Hopefully, the gov't would tell us if we were in danger. Of course, they kept this top secret for 30 years:

"May 22, 1957, Kirtland Air Force Base, New Mexico

A nuclear weapon without its fissile core fell from the bomb bay of a B-36 at an altitude of 1,700 feet and exploded upon impact. The bomber was transporting both the weapon and its fissile core, which had been removed for safety, from Biggs Air Force Base in Texas to Kirtland Air Force Base in New Mexico. Although parachutes attached to the weapon were deployed during its descent, they did not function properly.

The nuclear weapon was completely destroyed in the detonation which occurred approximately 4.5 miles south of the Kirtland control tower and 0.3 miles west of the Sandia Base reservation, creating a blast crater approximately 25 feet in diameter and 12 feet deep. Fragments of the bomb and debris were scattered over a one mile area. A radiological survey of the area was conducted, but revealed no radioactive contamination beyond the lip of the crater."

Now, you KNOW that plutonium pit burst open and spread Pu239 all over.

http://articles.latimes.com/1986-08-27/news/m...
ZIAmouth

Albuquerque, NM

#7 Mar 20, 2011
Caltrop wrote:
Hopefully, the gov't would tell us if we were in danger. Of course, they kept this top secret for 30 years:
"May 22, 1957, Kirtland Air Force Base, New Mexico
A nuclear weapon without its fissile core fell from the bomb bay of a B-36 at an altitude of 1,700 feet and exploded upon impact. The bomber was transporting both the weapon and its fissile core, which had been removed for safety, from Biggs Air Force Base in Texas to Kirtland Air Force Base in New Mexico. Although parachutes attached to the weapon were deployed during its descent, they did not function properly.
The nuclear weapon was completely destroyed in the detonation which occurred approximately 4.5 miles south of the Kirtland control tower and 0.3 miles west of the Sandia Base reservation, creating a blast crater approximately 25 feet in diameter and 12 feet deep. Fragments of the bomb and debris were scattered over a one mile area. A radiological survey of the area was conducted, but revealed no radioactive contamination beyond the lip of the crater."
Now, you KNOW that plutonium pit burst open and spread Pu239 all over.
http://articles.latimes.com/1986-08-27/news/m...
The article states the core was removed yet YOU state it was present and spread contamination. I suppose you also believe a UFO landed at Roswell, 9/11 was an "inside" job and the world will end in May of this year.

I do know there are a few "hot" spots on White Sands Missile Range. One of course is Trinity site.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#8 Mar 20, 2011
ZIAmouth wrote:
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The article states the core was removed yet YOU state it was present and spread contamination. I suppose you also believe a UFO landed at Roswell, 9/11 was an "inside" job and the world will end in May of this year.
I do know there are a few "hot" spots on White Sands Missile Range. One of course is Trinity site.
OK, would you believe we have a mid-air refueling incident over Palomares, Spain in 1966 in which four nukes fell out of a B-52, 3 detonating on impact, one falling into the Mediterranean Sea? The US ended up shipping over 6000 barrels of contaminated soil from Spain back to the states.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1966_Palomares_B...

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#9 Mar 20, 2011
Forgot to mention....you can see the empty casings of two of the bombs involved in this incident on display in the National Museum of Nuclear Science & History right here in good old Burque.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#10 Mar 20, 2011
Or maybe you've believe this one:

April 11, 1950,– Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA – Three minutes after departure from Kirtland Air Force Base in Albuquerque a USAF B-29 bomber carrying a nuclear weapon, four spare detonators, and a crew of thirteen crashed into a mountain near Manzano Base. The crash resulted in a fire which the New York Times reported as being visible from 15 miles (24 km) The bomb’s casing was completely demolished and its high explosives ignited upon contact with the plane’s burning fuel. However, according to the Department of Defense, the four spare detonators and all nuclear components were recovered. A nuclear detonation was not possible because, while on board, the weapon’s core was not in the weapon for safety reasons. All thirteen crew members died.

(and don't believe for a minute that the pit was OUT of this weapon. Fortunately, it was one-point safe and gave no nuclear yeild, but made for a messy, and secret, cleanup)
ZIAmouth

Albuquerque, NM

#11 Mar 20, 2011
Caltrop

You're reporting nothing new. I criticized you because you "added" unverified facts. I'm familiar with all these incidents. And there are others. Stuff happens. God did not make us perfect thus we make mistakes, sometimes tragic. Doesn't make it right though. Fortunately when nuclear weapons are transported they are usually devoid of triggers, cores, fuses etc thus rendering them safe (relative speaking).

Does our government try to cover up? Sure. But so do private businesses, individuals and foreign governments. Thats why an active press corps is needed to dig and report.
CornDogz

Albuquerque, NM

#12 Mar 20, 2011
Truth be known, our exposure to Radon in the ground around Abq is probably a greater risk than radiation from Japan.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#13 Mar 20, 2011
ZIAmouth wrote:
Caltrop
You're reporting nothing new. I criticized you because you "added" unverified facts. I'm familiar with all these incidents. And there are others. Stuff happens. God did not make us perfect thus we make mistakes, sometimes tragic. Doesn't make it right though. Fortunately when nuclear weapons are transported they are usually devoid of triggers, cores, fuses etc thus rendering them safe (relative speaking).
Does our government try to cover up? Sure. But so do private businesses, individuals and foreign governments. Thats why an active press corps is needed to dig and report.
It's for sure governments and private businesses will lie to cover up mistakes. Notice how TEPCO (Tokyo Electric Power Company) hem-hawed around the truth about the damage at Fukushima?

By the way, I think you're mistaken about our nukes being partially dismantled for safety in transport. The pits are glued inside the high explosive and can only be taken apart with great difficulty. The same for the dets. Plus, the PALs (Permissive Action Link System) help deter unauthorized detonation. See: http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb/nsam-160/pal....
ZIAmouth

Albuquerque, NM

#14 Mar 20, 2011
CornDogz wrote:
Truth be known, our exposure to Radon in the ground around Abq is probably a greater risk than radiation from Japan.
CornDog, according to Ann Coulter, she quoted a study saying that radon gas exposure "reduces" cancer risk. Like you, I thought radon gas was risky but ... maybe not. Of course, Ann Coulter is no authority but I would like to see if there is any scientific evidence backing this.

I posted the link in a previous post.
CornDogz

Albuquerque, NM

#15 Mar 20, 2011
ZIAmouth wrote:
<quoted text>
CornDog, according to Ann Coulter, she quoted a study saying that radon gas exposure "reduces" cancer risk. Like you, I thought radon gas was risky but ... maybe not. Of course, Ann Coulter is no authority but I would like to see if there is any scientific evidence backing this.
I posted the link in a previous post.
Interesting given we're told how we need to get our homes and/or potential property for a new home tested and such. Another scam???

But then as with most things, there seems to be a good and bad side so...
mr1776va

Albuquerque, NM

#16 Mar 20, 2011
I'll be o.k.

I ate 15 pounds of KELP!!

I am not scared!

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